Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.15-r3 testing for stable

2006-06-19 Thread Philip Webb
060618 Dan Meltzer wrote: On 6/18/06, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something not quite right about 'testing/stable' as it exists now -- no, repeat no, criticism of hardworking developers implied -- : might it help everyone if instead we had 'testing/desktop/server' ?

[gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Caleb Tennis
I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up a GWN section on the forums and post the text of the GWN (or perhaps each section) in a new thread each week

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (News) revisited

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:19:10 +0100 Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since GLEP 42's original author and sponsor has left the project, I've taken it over, and would like to have another go at getting it implemented. OK, since noone has raised any significant issues with this, I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 07:37 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, (Ab)using a blog for that might work but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up a GWN

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-19 Thread Flammie Pirinen
2006-06-17, Harald van Dijk sanoi, jotta: [F]orce LC_ALL=C to make that work, unless you want to check for every translation of the warning. You can also check against current locale’s translation of the warning using gettext(1) or such to extract it. -- Flammie, Gentoo Linux Documentation’s

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-19 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sunday 11 June 2006 13:08, Jan Kundrát wrote: Sure, translating GCC output is *not* good, but why don't provide localized version of Portage messages like, for example, those when Portage complains about unsatisfied dependency? What about messages output by ebuilds? Are they also going to

[gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of linux-info eclass. As such I would like to deprecate $KV

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of

[gentoo-dev] 1/2 OT: Comprehensive Source Database

2006-06-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I'm currently working on infrastructure for an comprehensive and detailed source database. It is not an replacement for freshmeat (which is good software index for human users), but an strictly defined database of package releases and assigned download URLs along with several

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Duncan
Joshua Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:46:37 -0500: That being said... one of our users has been working on using GCJ to this end: https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/GCJ_as_a_JDK Thanks. As for why this hasn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-19 Thread Jan Kundrát
Paul de Vrieze wrote: What about messages output by ebuilds? Are they also going to be translated? In that case, how? There's no way to provide localized output of einfo/... calls from ebuild that I'm aware of. Suggestions are welcome :) Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub more beer /dev/mouth

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:32:58 -0400: May I ask, because I'm very confused, wtf is freedomware? I can only assume you mean oss/free java? As distinct from freeware, and also known as Free or Libre Software, libre being

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-19 Thread Flammie Pirinen
2006-06-19, Jan Kundrát sanoi, jotta: Paul de Vrieze wrote: What about messages output by ebuilds? Are they also going to be translated? In that case, how? There's no way to provide localized output of einfo/... calls from ebuild that I'm aware of. Suggestions are welcome :) Is there a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up a GWN section on the forums and post the text of the GWN

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Bob Young
Some here don't care. That's fine -- for them. It's a bit bigger than that for me, but they don't ask me to run what is to me slaveryware, and I won't ask them to give up what is to them convenienceware. I certaintly support your right to choose such a standard for yourself, however I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Arek (James Potts)
Alec Warner wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread George Prowse
On 19/06/06, Tobias Klausmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Ryan Tandy
Arek (James Potts) wrote: If they don't actually build against the kernel, couldn't/shouldn't they look at either kernel-headers or the output of `uname -r`? Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Joshua Nichols
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: = Background = As some might have noticed, Java 1.5 has been package.masked for some time now. There are a number of issues introduced with 1.5 that have kept it in package.mask. Please see the Java 1.5 FAQ [1] for more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:00:41PM -0700, infowolfe wrote: Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't build for a kernel other than the one you're running. Which only applies to kernel modules, not

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:00:19 +0200 Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 07:37 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, (Ab)using a blog for that might work