Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: local desktop_file=$(make_desktop_entry -v ...) || die semi-unrelated, this die will never be called by design, use of the local keyword overrides the exit status of the subshell in the assignment ... you'd need to write it:

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Black
On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:48, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: Also creates the following symlinks to it i dont see much value in these symlinks ... what do they gain us ? An easy way to find the closest config when merging a revision/version

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Black
On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:55, Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:21:01PM +1100, Daniel Black wrote: Fellow devs, WARN_CONFIG warn_config (useflags) warns the user that the useflags have been overridden by savedconfig Anything else? overriding use flags by a

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007 18:48, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: Also creates the following symlinks to it i dont see much value in these symlinks ... what do they gain us ? An easy way to find

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: So some foo that says: die you have enabled X USE flag but your saved config reflects the X USE flag been unset. Please correct your saved config by setting GUI=yes in /etc/portage/savedconfig/${CATEGORY}/${PXXX}/config.h or unset the USE flag

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs

2007-02-01 Thread José González Gómez
Hi there, I've recently written an ebuild for a package that needs to create an user, and I have several questions regarding this issue. Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? Is there any kind of linux/unix standard regarding this? I've been googling for

Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Jim Ramsay
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:30:53 -0500, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about the only thing that'd work is an additional parameter called cruft that'd be passed unfiltered into the .desktop file You can also imagine a -v switch, which would make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs

2007-02-01 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 15:55 +0100, José González Gómez wrote: Hi there, I've recently written an ebuild for a package that needs to create an user, and I have several questions regarding this issue. Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? There is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs

2007-02-01 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:26:49 -0500 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I inquired about it several months back on irc, but can't recall the details at this time. Pretty sure it's not implemented yet, but there might be some efforts in that direction.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo standard UIDs

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Kelly
José González Gómez wrote: Is there anywhere I can find the list of standard UIDs/GIDs used in Gentoo? There is / was such a list in CVS[1] at some point, thought it is far from complete or current. I also took a look at http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/users-and-groups/index.html,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
Vapier wrote: [Wed Jan 31 2007, 11:30:01PM CST] If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. Care to weigh-in on the tr1 issue? Due to the lack of really good ideas, it may be that a

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Daniel Black wrote: So some foo that says: die you have enabled X USE flag but your saved config reflects the X USE flag been unset. Please correct your saved config by setting GUI=yes in /etc/portage/savedconfig/${CATEGORY}/${PXXX}/config.h

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)

2007-02-01 Thread Christian Heim
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Martin Jackson (also known as mjolnir40k - on IRC at least) our latest addition joining the netmon herd. Martin is joining from Northwest Arkansas (that's in USA). He's working in the IT-field for a well-known company (hopefully it doesn't start with I and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)

2007-02-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin is joining from Northwest Arkansas (that's in USA). He's working in the IT-field for a well-known company (hopefully it doesn't start with I and ends with BM). He states to have major experience with perl (7+ years), bash scripting, python and C

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)

2007-02-01 Thread Christian Heim
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dean Stephens (also known as desultory) our latest addition joining the forums monkeys. Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. So please welcome Dean as a new fellow

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:50:20 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else Which means no dep resolution... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web :

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before | you can fix it yourself. Wouldn't that depend highly upon the bug? -- Ciaran

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Thomas Rösner
Daniel Black schrieb: Fellow devs, [...] Ebuilds that already have their implementation of savedconfig: sys-apps/busybox sys-libs/uclibc x11-wm/dwm x11-misc/dmenu Other potential candidates: net-misc/dropbear [2] app-emulation/mol app-shells/tcsh dev-libs/klibc dev-lang/ccc mail-mta/sendmail

Re: [gentoo-dev] tr1 dependencies

2007-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:26:06 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | virtual/tr1-memory | virtual/tr1-unordered-containers | virtual/tr1-random | virtual/tr1-regex | | Rather a lot of work, and rather icky... Looking at this some more... We're probably talking about needing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a non critical bug before | you can fix it yourself. Wouldn't that depend

Re: [gentoo-dev] make_desktop_entry in eutils.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Jim Ramsay wrote: Nice. I like this idea, and humbly request that someone implement it in this way, or give me permission to do so. that assumes format limitations ... an additional cruft argument would be more likely to be merged -mike pgpGG8puWkLxF.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: But at that point the manager has little or no control over the package, hell you can move the savedconfigs out of /etc/portage/ cause they have nothing to do with it at all. You can't do use-deps with this, because you can't effectively

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. uhh this is certainly no good ... i wouldnt want someone looking at an old bug and going shit he hasnt fixed

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)

2007-02-01 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: He's also a FreeBSD ports maintainer. Hey fresh meat for me then? :) Welcome Martin, and you sure are welcome to join the Gentoo/FreeBSD if you want :) -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)

2007-02-01 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. Welcome Dean... but where Maine is? And more to the point, which Maine is? Is the one in the key world? -- Diego

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)

2007-02-01 Thread Stephen P. Becker
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:37:05 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Christian Heim wrote: Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him on IRC. Welcome Dean... but where Maine

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: But at that point the manager has little or no control over the package, hell you can move the savedconfigs out of /etc/portage/ cause they have nothing to do with it at all. You can't do use-deps with this, because you

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Martin Jackson (mjolnir)

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Black
Please welcome Martin as a new fellow developer among us ! Welcome to Gentoo and netmon in particular. May your free time be filled with many solved bug reports, version bumps, and better integration activities. -- Daniel Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation pgpdhj1tgAqwk.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Black
On Friday 02 February 2007 06:02, Christian Heim wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Dean Stephens (also known as desultory) our latest addition joining the forums monkeys. Dean is joining us from Bangor (that's in Maine). Don't know anything else about him, so feel free to harass him

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka built_with_use). You'd have to have some sort of tautology that says provided packages (and crazyconfig packages)

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Dean Stephens (desultory)

2007-02-01 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Nice Dark Tower reference, albeit written in almost completely incoherent English. That's my engrish for you, I never said I was good at that :P -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead,

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Black
On Friday 02 February 2007 06:27, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 04:50:20 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | easier to just say USE=savedconfig overrides everything else Which means no dep resolution... USE flags are still used for dependencies. On Thursday 01

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:18:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: | Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people | inject a randomly configured package that fails PM tests (aka | built_with_use). You'd have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:18:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Thursday 01 February 2007, Alec Warner wrote: | Because then you get fun things like package.provided where people | inject a randomly configured package that fails PM

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: net-analyzer/prelude-nids

2007-02-01 Thread Markus Ullmann
Package is outdated, dead upstream and snort as frontend is favoured ;) Removal on 1st March Jokey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:19:57 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:36:29 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like the council to discuss if we should have a policy on how | long to wait for a developer to respond to a

[gentoo-dev] Re: eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Duncan
Thomas Rösner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:46:41 +0100: sys-kernel/*? Or perhaps genkernel? Being able to build kernel images just like any other package in Gentoo would be nice. But with make oldconfig, so the user gets asked about new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 01 February 2007, Duncan wrote: But with make oldconfig, so the user gets asked about new options, and those get saved back to the savedconfig, right? i'd say no myself ... or you'd have to add RESTRICT=interactive to the eclass -mike pgpskbKKCx4pW.pgp Description: PGP signature