Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be much of an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:49:58 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should someone have to go through all of that just to make these minor fixes? Is it really necessary for someone to be required to try to track down and contact the maintainer to tell them that they put ebiuld

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
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[gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist (was: Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality)

2007-08-04 Thread Lars Weiler
* Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/08/03 16:20 -0700]: X-VCS-Repository: gentoo-x86 X-VCS-Directories: profiles/ licenses/ X-VCS-Files: profiles/foo licenses/bar Everything implemented :-P At least for all commits to gentoo-x86. Well, I reactivated the commitlog-script (quite the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: Ask for forgiveness, not permission. ++ I think anything that streamlines the process is a good thing. (Obviously I don't know enough about all the changes to comment on specifics.) Not saying it should be done recklessly, eg SRC_URI changes. How about a simple requirement

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:06:07 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list of trivial changes There's a couple more that I wouldn't mind seeing as things developers can do without the maintainer, but I can see how these might be a bit more controversial, so I'm asking for input.

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:35 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: FYI, the patches in bug #183480 [1] allow one to use the most current ati-drivers with a 2.6.22 kernel. As I am now while I am composing this message. Having applied said patches and bumped ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 02 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy closed source vendor drivers are not a valid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:06:07 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list of trivial changes There's a couple more that I wouldn't mind seeing as things developers can do without the maintainer, but I can see how these might be a bit more controversial, so I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Vlastimil Babka wrote: dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before commiting a bump, IMHO Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die because TODO wasn't around. Vote against || die - it doesn't affect anything aside from misc docs not

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:35 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Update your knowledge, the normal radeon driver works nice for both. =) I will I was following radeon developmen for a while. But last I looked a few months ago, they were still a ways off from having DRI fully supported with my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Lars Weiler wrote: * Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/08/03 16:20 -0700]: X-VCS-Repository: gentoo-x86 X-VCS-Directories: profiles/ licenses/ X-VCS-Files: profiles/foo licenses/bar Everything implemented :-P At least for all commits to gentoo-x86. Well, I reactivated the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Tiziano Müller
Chris Gianelloni schrieb: - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but really are required to make the necessary changes to add support for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: Vlastimil Babka wrote: dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before commiting a bump, IMHO Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die because TODO wasn't around. Vote against || die - it doesn't affect

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Luis Medinas wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be much of an issue with the next release, since we're switching to Xfce rather than

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Samuli Suominen wrote: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 16:23 -0500, Andrew Gaffney a écrit : The LiveCD is intended to replace the separate GRP and universal CDs when combined with the installer. The installer uses the packages installed on the CD to do the new install. I'm not sure how many times this has been brought

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 16:23 -0500, Andrew Gaffney a écrit : The LiveCD is intended to replace the separate GRP and universal CDs when combined with the installer. The installer uses the packages installed on the CD to do the new install. I'm not sure how many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
Petteri Räty wrote: Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: Vlastimil Babka wrote: dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before commiting a bump, IMHO Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die because TODO wasn't around. Vote against || die - it

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Steve Long
Vlastimil Babka wrote: dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before commiting a bump, IMHO Would it not be easier to roll the || die into dodoc? I know some eclass functions die on error, but I haven't been able to find out what the definitive list is, or at least the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Steve Long
Tiziano Müller wrote: Chris Gianelloni schrieb: - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but really are required to make the necessary

[gentoo-dev] kxdocker (and associated packages is being purged)

2007-08-04 Thread Daniel Black
The following packages have been masked pending removal in 30 days (roughly): kde-misc/kxdocker-configurator kde-misc/kxdocker-i18n kde-misc/kxdocker-dcop kde-misc/kxdocker kde-misc/kxdocker-trayiconlogger kde-misc/kxdocker-resources Reasons: - no developed by upstream [1] - no active maintainer