Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-06-06 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 05-06-2008 22:47:28 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 14:52 Thu 05 Jun , Samuli Suominen wrote: # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (05 Jun 2008) # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners. # Replaced by USE libffi in sys-devel/gcc. Bug 163724. dev-libs/libffi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:35 Thu 05 Jun , Josh Saddler wrote: Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): dberkholz Yes. I'd like to continue trying to make the council more effective. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-06-06 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Leverton wrote: | On Thursday 05 June 2008 19:21:24 Albert Zeyer wrote: | Are you sure that Squeak really depends on libffi? | | I just compiled it (squeak-3.9.7) fine without having libffi on my | system and with disabled libffi USE-flag. | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Alex Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/5 Ali Polatel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to nominate: Fernando J. Pereda -- ferdy Bo Ørsted Andresen -- zlin Is there a method for objecting to a nomination, kinda like the opposite of seconding it? :P That

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Tiziano Müller
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:35:16 -0700 Josh Saddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): amne betelgeuse dberkholz flameeyes jokey lu_zero vapier As per GLEP 39, I'd like all of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:37:21 +: 2. As one of the first priorities will be setting policy for pending appeals what policy do you propose ? I'd also add two new requirements: 1. Any appeal must be heard and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
Alex Howells wrote: In short: vote for me if you want less bullshit, less asshats and a more fun distribution. That is all. Damn! Astinus for PM! :) -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:48:03 +0100 Richard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Josh Saddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Łukasz Damentko wrote: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Ferris McCormick
After having written this, I realized I might be telegraphing a bit too much in places. So take the amplifications for what they are worth. They are more lawyer like than my original response, but I don't see how to put them into a manifesto. On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 01:37 +, Ferris McCormick

[gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Ferris McCormick
I also nominate: NeddySeagoon Regards, Ferris -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc, Userrel, Trustees) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:32 Fri 06 Jun , Ferris McCormick wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 01:37 +, Ferris McCormick wrote: And the bit about hearing appeals assumes that devrel initiated the disciplinary action being appealed. I'd make it explicit that Council is not itself a disciplinary body ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Doug Goldstein
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 18:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:11:44 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I would have thought there was a requirement to have been a developer for at least a year, just like we require

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 15:35 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: The Gentoo Foundation and the Gentoo Council are two different entities. But the one Gentoo Two heads one body. Usually doesn't work for most animals or humans. One ends up being a parasite to the other. For further reference please

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to supporting the FreeBSD Project. It's clear the that BSD Foundation is directly tied to the BSD project. I am not

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 14:13 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to supporting the FreeBSD Project. It's clear the

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:55 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 14:13 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 15:23 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Like comparing Gentoo to a single-brained animal with multiple heads? But that it is. You have two entities, that both are related to Gentoo in some form. Overlapping membership, staff, interests, etc. No comparisons are perfect, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-06 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Joe Peterson wrote: The problem with a simple echo is that no * appears on the left to maintain continuity with the rest of the output - and in a color that makes sense in the context (maybe this isn't a problem - it depends on whether that visual continuity is desired). The far biggest

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation - Council was - Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
Can you take this off-topic thread to the appropriate list? I'm pretty tired with hearing the Foundation's self-promotional comments on how important it is to development on this list. You guys have your own list for that crap, as it is. Thanks, -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 00:42 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: Joe Peterson wrote: The problem with a simple echo is that no * appears on the left to maintain continuity with the rest of the output - and in a color that makes sense in the context (maybe this isn't a problem - it depends on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-06 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Doug Goldstein wrote: An clearly motivation explanation that I didn't add, which I'm going to add once I send this is the fact that as per the QA Project, use.local.desc can not contain a USE flag that already appears globally in use.desc. This would allow a description for that USE flag to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-06 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Marius Mauch wrote: It's not about forcing anyone to do something but giving people enough information on how to implement it _if they choose to do so_. With the current GLEP they'd have to make arbitrary decisions if e.g. a flag is defined in both use.local.desc and metadata.xml, or some people

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:40:36 +0200 Vlastimil Babka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: An clearly motivation explanation that I didn't add, which I'm going to add once I send this is the fact that as per the QA Project, use.local.desc can not contain a USE flag that already

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:42:24 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a GLEP for the addition of USE flag descriptions to package metadata. It does not address any future ideas that others may have had or suggested. It merely gives developers the necessary tools to document their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-06 Thread Joe Peterson
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 00:42 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: There could be also switch to add newline before the message but I can't think of a use for it myself. The question is how to name the switch :) -n could be confusing as echo -n has the opposite effect.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-06 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Joe Peterson wrote: The comment from Vlastimil about echo not being part of the elog system is a very valid point indeed. As for how to specify that a newline should be inserted, I think that using elog switches like -n, -p, etc., as well as putting more than one string on a line present two

[gentoo-dev] Council Idea

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
I have an strange idea, it will probably get shot down by everyone or people will point out that it has been discussed and thought it was a bad idea but anyway... ...why not invite a developer from another distribution to join the council? I think inviting co-operation from other areas would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread George Prowse
Ferris McCormick wrote: I also nominate: NeddySeagoon Regards, Ferris I completely agree. Few people have done more behind the scenes as Roy. I would also like to nominate zmendico for his excellent work with portage. George -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Idea

2008-06-06 Thread Josh Saddler
George Prowse wrote: [stuff] Take it to gentoo-project, please. This list is s'posed to be for technical discussion. gentoo-project is more appropriate for this kind of query. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:21:16 +: On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 09:28 +, Duncan wrote: Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: I'd also add two new requirements: 1. Any appeal must be heard and decided within

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Dibb
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:42:24 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a GLEP for the addition of USE flag descriptions to package metadata. It does not address any future ideas that others may have had or suggested. It merely gives developers the necessary