[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Steve Long wrote: Unless someone can say what using PROPERTIES=prefix would break, I'd go with that. It's a /classic/ usage of that variable, as it's simply a boolean; PROPERTIES is well-defined and I'm hoping

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. - ferdy pgprSLpWrpb0H.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Markus Meier
server16 logrotate 10 gsm 9 custom-cflags 9 kontact 8 openmp8 plasma7 html 7 demo 7 smp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server16 Already been discussed, can't be done. logrotate 10 Already been discussed. Will no doubt descend into the same long argument that happens every time this comes up.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-15 Thread Santiago M. Mola
El mar, 14-10-2008 a las 18:24 -0700, Alec Warner escribió: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no need to commit straight to stable. Just make two different new revisions for each EAPI. Then the arch teams can test it like usual. Aha a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread David Leverton
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 10:33:22 Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $(run) #!/bin/bash P='some-crap/god-i-hate-asshats' I do hope that that isn't directed at anyone in

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: bzr.eclass into Portage

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Monday 13 October 2008 04:43:48 Steve Long wrote: EBZR_OPTIONS=${EBZR_OPTIONS:-} (and similar variants) doesn't do anything (beyond waste lex and yacc time.) It gets listed in the generated man page. From what I remember of the awk that generates those

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilize ebuilds which use EAPIs only supported by ~arch PMs

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: There's no need to commit straight to stable. Just make two different new revisions for each EAPI. Then the arch teams can test it like usual. Aha a perfect canidate use case for GLEP 55[1] that fends off 'why are there multiple versions of the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: Steve Long wrote: insinto /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples Is there any chance we can start using correctly quoted filenames across the board? Since when is ${P} allowed to have spaces? I believe I answered this in my prior post. Besides being faster (quote the whole

[gentoo-dev] Re: System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Peter Volkov wrote: Jeremy Olexa ?: Thomas Sachau wrote: Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, because they could be removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system packages out completly? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221311

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. Yes, almost as important as not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:28:43 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): A big gain in the context of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
David Leverton wrote: On Wednesday 15 October 2008 10:33:22 Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $(run) #!/bin/bash P='some-crap/god-i-hate-asshats' I do hope that that isn't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server16 Already been discussed, can't be done. What does it break?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:51:32 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the first iteration in general, btw.) 18% of nothing is nothing. perhaps you're just feeling defensive about your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:53:14 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server16 Already been discussed, can't be done. What does it break? Have a look at, for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:51:32PM +0100, Ranjit Singh wrote: This is a purely stylistic issue, same as the braces with variable expansions. See my other posts. Your other posts only show that this is, indeed, a personal stylistic issue. And a pointless one, too. - ferdy

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Utterly illegal, needs to die. Why? I don't agree that it needs to be the global useflags, but I don't consider it illegal either. It's defined by toolchain.eclass and toolchain-binutils.eclass, and deliberately in a very careful

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:47:06 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Utterly illegal, needs to die. Why? I don't agree that it needs to be the global useflags, but I don't consider it illegal either. It's illegal.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:19:27 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:47:06 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:43:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Utterly illegal, needs to die. Why? I don't agree that it needs to

USE=multislot, xDEPEND-syntax in SLOT and Slot dependencies [Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags]

2008-10-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm deliberately starting a new thread here, because this is meandering well off the original topic of the global useflag proposals. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 02:18:16AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: There are also other issues, e.g. it breaks the generation of the @installed package set as the

Re: USE=multislot, xDEPEND-syntax in SLOT and Slot dependencies [Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] some global useflags]

2008-10-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:20:32 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignoring Vapier's tirade against ciaranm there, we need the xDEPEND-syntax for SLOTS as the real solution, however that still wouldn't resolve the portion that has CTARGET as part of the SLOT, since metadata

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Arun Raghavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Long wrote: [...] for ((i=0;i10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples /dev/null; real 11.25 real 9.24 So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the first iteration in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 15/10/2008 в 20:51 +0100, Steve Long пишет: for ((i=0;i10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples /dev/null; real 11.25 real 9.24 So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the first iteration in