Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Jean-Marc Hengen
Duncan wrote: ... ++ - I can only add the saying With freedom comes great responsibility.. Maybe the python herd could maintain a little status page which covers informations like: - Estimated python 3 compatibility in respect to the packages in the main tree. - Recommendations if installing

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/19/2010 08:26 PM, Alec Warner wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: You guys always make easy decisions so complicated. :P Masking a package is not complicated. Yes, that's why all the heated debates about Python 3 exist, because it's all so

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
fre 2010-03-19 klockan 05:13 -0500 skrev Dale: Because, when I installed gcc 4.3, I could then unmerge the old gcc. That's why I didn't complain about that. With python, we still have to have the current version plus the new version which is not being used at all. That was if you did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/20/2010 02:56 AM, Jean-Marc Hengen wrote: Duncan wrote: ... ++ - I can only add the saying With freedom comes great responsibility.. Maybe the python herd could maintain a little status page which covers informations like: - Estimated python 3 compatibility in respect to the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
I have a question related to this: If I have package X which supports python2 and python 3, and I install it without python3 installed it will only install python2-files (i.e. /usr/lib/python2.x/*), right? What happens if I later install packages Y that is only python3, and relies on the python3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-20 13:51:37 Peter Hjalmarsson napisał(a): I have a question related to this: If I have package X which supports python2 and python 3, and I install it without python3 installed it will only install python2-files (i.e. /usr/lib/python2.x/*), right? What happens if I later install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-20 01:51:44 Duncan napisał(a): So let's just recognize that it's not a perfect situation, create a news item saying that python-3 will soon (give a date) be unmasked, and suggest that users not needing it may wish to package.mask it themselves, with a link to documentation with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-20 Thread James Cloos
BdG == Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org writes: BdG On 14 March 2010 06:09, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: BdG == Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org writes: BdG Abandoned packages do not belong in the portage tree. Nonsense.  That attitude only servers to harm the user base. BdG You're

[gentoo-dev] Add LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu to developer profile's make.defaults

2010-03-20 Thread Doktor Notor
The amount of bugs concerning ebuilds that ignore LDFLAGS suggests that this would be a good idea, b/c it seems a many maintainers are completely unaware that their ebuilds do not respect LDFLAGS - so I guess this needs more visibility. P.S. If you wonder why this flag then check

Re: [gentoo-dev] How about a monthly bumpday?

2010-03-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/19/10 13:36, Peter Volkov wrote: В Срд, 10/03/2010 в 05:08 +0100, Sebastian Pipping пишет: How about a monthly bumpday? Good idea, but it should follow our policy to inform maintainers _in advance_: e.g. on first bumpday to work on bumps and notify maintainer about this work by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu to developer profile's make.defaults

2010-03-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:46:38 +0100 Doktor Notor notordok...@gmail.com wrote: The amount of bugs concerning ebuilds that ignore LDFLAGS suggests that this would be a good idea, b/c it seems a many maintainers are completely unaware that their ebuilds do not respect LDFLAGS - so I guess this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu to developer profile's make.defaults

2010-03-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 20 March 2010 19:46:38 Doktor Notor wrote: The amount of bugs concerning ebuilds that ignore LDFLAGS suggests that this would be a good idea, b/c it seems a many maintainers are completely unaware that their ebuilds do not respect LDFLAGS - so I guess this needs more visibility.