[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Duncan
Patrick Nagel posted on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:42:40 +0800 as excerpted: On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already exists? it seems like a complete duplication of effort. i'm not saying don't do it, i'm just baffled why we

[gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello! So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file collisions, etc etc? Even if it makes the ebuild completely unusable by itself? If yes:

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 04/09/10 08:10, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Hello! So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file collisions, etc etc? Even if it makes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Guy Fontaine
There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project is just but another occasion for debating rules and

[gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
I'm in the process of porting (once again) a new Anaconda snapshot to Sabayon (thus, to Gentoo-land). I spent several hours creating ebuilds (basic, not fully integrated yet) for the following pkgs: app-admin/authconfig app-admin/firstboot app-admin/system-config-date app-admin/system-config-date

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 09 of April 2010 13:26:16 Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine guy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all its contents) - there's lack of interest of cooperation from already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-09 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread AllenJB
On 09/04/10 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: Really? I understood it as the wiki being an all-purposes wiki, meaning users could (would and should) create articles on how to get some application running or how to get some setting working, and the developers will have their own section,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
Allen, if you don't have anything constructive to add, then please refrain from adding to this thread. Thanks, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lead developer Gentoo Wiki project lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Pagano
Here's one possible use-case. For me, I would consider moving http://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/index.htm to the official wiki so that other people in the kernel herd can update it. If the updating could be scripted, of course. I would not have considered it for an unofficial wiki

[gentoo-dev] Re: package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:40:50 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello! So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Loeser
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org said: So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file collisions, etc etc? Even if it makes the ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:40:50 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: So, I can't find any documentation about this; nor can I find a best-practices list. Can we add broken ebuilds in-tree as long as they are package.masked? automagic deps, wrong deps, missing deps, file collisions,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/09/2010 04:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: They are available in the sabayon overlay. Is there anybody interested in helping me out for the integration and, perhaps, merge-into-Portage part? That sounds interesting. I was planning to add public apis for the packagekit portage backend to

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask-ed ebuilds

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 21:22, Michał Górny gen...@mgorny.alt.pl wrote: In my opinion, an ebuild should be added to the tree as long as it will be useful to users. If your ebuild is WIP but you want to give some users an option to already use it or get some feedback, you could consider adding it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/09/2010 04:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: They are available in the sabayon overlay. Is there anybody interested in helping me out for the integration and, perhaps, merge-into-Portage part? That sounds interesting. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: [semi-OT] Since I am (together with volkmar) one of the PK Portage backend maintainers, let me know once you have interesting APIs implemented for that. The backend itself would also require testing and some profiling

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
MG == Michał Górny gen...@mgorny.alt.pl writes: MG I prefer perldoc over man. And I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer MG keeping two copies of the same docs if generating one from another MG takes less than a second. It takes more than a mere second, and man(1), man.el, woman.el and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 01:34:46PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: app-admin/authconfig (just checking, this is the nsswitch.conf changer right?), if so, then add to below. net-misc/fcoe-utils sys-apps/hbaapi sys-block/open-iscsi (see extra patches) I'm interested in these, and can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
D == Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net writes: D While you're correct in the ordinary case, keep in mind that this is perl D developer docs we're talking about here -- not ordinary user documentation. Developer docs *are* ordinary user documentation. Section 3 is perhaps the most used section of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-09 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha ability? Yes, there are a number of solutions for that. I realize I am very late on this thread, but please do not go here unless