Re: [gentoo-dev] [looking-for-man-power] Packaging RedHat/Fedora tools and libs

2010-04-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-04-2010 a las 21:41 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/09/2010 04:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: They are available in the sabayon overlay. Is there anybody interested in helping me out for the integration

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Dror Levin
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha ability? Yes, there are a number of solutions for that.  I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread George Prowse
On 10/04/2010 05:10, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha ability? Yes, there are a number of solutions for that. I realize I am very late on this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/09/2010 05:51 PM, Dror Levin wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I

[gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to whatever I see worthy for Gentoo as whole like the web page redesign. Basically you tell

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On Saturday 10 April 2010 16:53:48 Petteri Räty wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to whatever I see worthy for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
Le samedi 10 avril 2010 15:53:48, Petteri Räty a écrit : As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to whatever I see worthy for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/10/2010 05:00 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On Saturday 10 April 2010 16:53:48 Petteri Räty wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 April 2010 15:53, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to whatever I see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/10/2010 05:38 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 10 April 2010 15:53, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:06:57PM +0300, Dror Levin wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
I was asked on #gentoo-council to respond to this post so I will. It should also be noted council members usually speak as individual members instead of for the council as a whole. On 04/07/2010 06:00 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread George Prowse
On 10/04/2010 16:25, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:06:57PM +0300, Dror Levin wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10, William Hubbswilli...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:40:20PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 10/04/2010 16:25, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:06:57PM +0300, Dror Levin wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10, William Hubbswilli...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Vincent Launchbury
On 04/10/10 11:25, William Hubbs wrote: Yes, it does. However, I would tend to question how practical their audio captcha is. Go to www.captcha.net and try the demo a few times and see how much luck you have solving audio captchas from it. Just for reference, I tried 15 different sound clips

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:18:41 -0500 as excerpted: - a phrase captcha (complete the phrase) The thing I've always read about these is that they tend to discriminate against those for whom the language isn't their native language. Math problems are generally agreed to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.04.2010 20:11, schrieb Duncan: William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:18:41 -0500 as excerpted: - a phrase captcha (complete the phrase) The thing I've always read about these is that they tend to discriminate against those for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Dale
Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 04/10/10 11:25, William Hubbs wrote: Yes, it does. However, I would tend to question how practical their audio captcha is. Go to www.captcha.net and try the demo a few times and see how much luck you have solving audio captchas from it. Just for reference, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Ben, Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative and is trying to help. The only way of knowing if his idea is good is to discuss it and later try it if people are interested. You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which is good) but not constructively. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 April 2010 21:27, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Ben, Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative You call that creative? It seems you don't know what the word means. You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which is good) but not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/10/2010 11:17 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 10 April 2010 21:27, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Ben, Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative You call that creative? It seems you don't know what the word means. You don't have to take any part in the experiment but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Steve Rosiak
right. Am Samstag, 10. April 2010 16:38:13 schrieb Ben de Groot: On 10 April 2010 15:53, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 April 2010 22:56, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I guess I was hallucinating that I started the wiki project, which has been a popular request for as long as I can remember. I guess I imagined I worked together with Markos to start the proxy-maintainer project to improve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/10/2010 04:53 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to whatever I see worthy for Gentoo as whole

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/11/2010 12:18 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 10 April 2010 22:56, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I guess I was hallucinating that I started the wiki project, which has been a popular request for as long as I can remember. I guess I imagined I worked together with Markos to start

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 April 2010 23:23, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:18 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: Not if you think it is okay for Calchan to insult me the way he did. Could he have chosen better words - yes Were there errors in content - no How about: You have lately been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 10 April 2010 23:23, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:18 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: Not if you think it is okay for Calchan to insult me the way he did. Could he have chosen better words - yes Were there errors in content

[gentoo-dev] RFC: eblits.eclass

2010-04-10 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, this is my first eclass proposal, so rip it apart gently ;) Disclaimer: the work proposed is NOT my own, but rather contributed by vapier (see [1] or sys-libs/glibc) and kumba (see [2] or sys-kernel/mips-sources). I propose to add eblits.eclass[2] (attached to this message) with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: How about: You have lately been increasingly critical but not constructively at no point have you offered your contribution You haven't offered to help you haven't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/11/2010 01:06 AM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: No mud slinging there but a fact. You can either ignore this kind of behavior and let them pollute our mailing lists, or you can point at them and say they won't be tolerated. I chose the latter. I mean things like immature political rantings

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 11 April 2010 00:06, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: How about: You have lately been increasingly critical but not constructively at no point have you offered

[gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-04-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:26:46 +0200 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 03/12/2010 09:18 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording bug with only a single arch. I have myself assigned it to the arch in question but there's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/11/2010 01:38 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: You ignored my point about this being completely moot once we start using flags in bugzilla for arch teams. We'll have to change the policy then to the maintainer being the assignee anyways. Then we will do it when that happens. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I mean things like immature political rantings are not likely to evoke the wanted response and it didn't happen here either. I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is part of fixing them.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-04-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:41:34 +0300 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 01:38 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: You ignored my point about this being completely moot once we start using flags in bugzilla for arch teams. We'll have to change the policy then to the maintainer being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 11 April 2010 00:54, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I mean things like immature political rantings are not likely to evoke the wanted response and it didn't happen here either. I know it hurts the eyes a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allo. On 10-04-2010 14:09, Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote: Le samedi 10 avril 2010 15:53:48, Petteri Räty a écrit : As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10-04-2010 13:35, George Prowse wrote: On 10/04/2010 05:10, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 04/11/10 00:54, Denis Dupeyron wrote: I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is part of fixing them. What about difference in tone? You can transfer content X in very different tones and sill not hide anything. It's hard, but it's possible. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/10/2010 07:44 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 11 April 2010 00:54, Denis Dupeyroncalc...@gentoo.org wrote: I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is part of fixing them. Except when someone else does it, then calling the problem of lack of leadership suddenly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC in #gentoo-council. If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi William, On 2010-04-10 17:18 UTC William Hubbs wrote: Is there a better system? The ideal captcha would not be visual at all. For example, on another site I am involved with, which is not quite online yet, we are talking about implementing tseveral levels of captcha such as: - a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: eblits.eclass

2010-04-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:06:17AM +0200, Matti Bickel wrote: I propose to add eblits.eclass[2] (attached to this message) with the purpose and author comments from [1]. Counter proposal; finish off the remaining steps of elib related steps from glep33 and integrate it into an EAPI. So

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 02:04:08PM -0400, Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 04/10/10 11:25, William Hubbs wrote: Yes, it does. However, I would tend to question how practical their audio captcha is. Go to www.captcha.net and try the demo a few times and see how much luck you have solving audio