On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
You can get as much vertical integration with Gentoo as with any other
distro. The problem (and I think this is the point Greg is trying to
make) is that it will be harder (not impossible, just harder) if most
of
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:27:41 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
1. Devs don't want to have ebuilds that capture dependencies on every
little thing. A few well-chosen virtuals like shell utilities or
whatever might help with this.
Just note that PMS specifies a few requirements about
On 15-08-2012 12:58:32 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Things like Prefix rely on the system not installing local copies
of libraries in the core system it needs to link to. Careful use of
package.provided in profiles might address this.
Huh? Not sure
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 15-08-2012 12:58:32 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Things like Prefix rely on the system not installing local copies
of libraries in the core system it needs to link to. Careful
On 15-08-2012 07:32:45 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 15-08-2012 12:58:32 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Things like Prefix rely on the system not installing local copies
of
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
There are only a few packages I've seen that depend on a certain
(min/max) version of glibc, and when in use for Prefix, mostly use
!prefix? ( elibc_glibc? ( ...) )
stuff at the moment.
Half the packages in portage
On 15-08-2012 07:50:42 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
There are only a few packages I've seen that depend on a certain
(min/max) version of glibc, and when in use for Prefix, mostly use
!prefix? ( elibc_glibc? ( ...) )
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 06:27:41AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
RE you concerns about OpenRC being in @system. Personally I'm a fan
of getting rid of @system entirely except as something used to build
install CDs or having some sets for convenience in building systems.
It only exists for a few
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 15-08-2012 07:50:42 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote:
There are only a few packages I've seen that depend on a certain
(min/max) version of glibc,
On 15-08-2012 09:43:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
In that case then just ignore that whole section of my post. :)
Personally I consider the existence of @system a bit of a hack - like
the big kernel lock. It works OK, but here and there we run into
issues with it.
Williamh pointed out
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:27:41 -0400 as excerpted:
Right now having decent KDE and Gnome support with all the bells and
whistles[...] isn't that hard, [It] will likely get harder, which means
in practice what we'll probably have is a reasonable compromise which
will never be
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:27:41 -0400 as excerpted:
Right now having decent KDE and Gnome support with all the bells and
whistles[...] isn't that hard, [It] will likely get harder, which means
in practice
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:24 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I've occasionally noticed portage tell me about circular dependencies,
where the most straight forward resolution is to emerge some package
in the loop twice. The first time, with a USE flag disabled (avahi and
gtk are the
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:24 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
I've occasionally noticed portage tell me about circular dependencies,
where the most straight forward resolution is to emerge some
As gentoo switched to /var/run/ - /run in tmpfs recently
people got into problems [1] of missing directories like:
/var/run/screen/
/var/run/openfire/
/var/run/proftpd/
they did bite me personally.
openrc-0.10 brought [2] basic support for systemd's tmpfiles'd:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:57:57 +0300
Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote:
But there is no simple way to install such helpers from ebuilds.
The tmpfiles.d is aimed to help in such situations.
Yes, there is.
$ grep dotmpfiles *.eclass
systemd.eclass:# @FUNCTION: systemd_dotmpfilesd
I have a couple of minor requests for readability.
Can you call the eclass tmpfiles-d.eclass?
Then, for the functions themselves, use names like,
dotmpfiles_d
newtmpfiles_d
so they will be a bit more readable?
Thanks,
William
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