Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 While I tend towards the cleaner design, not the don't fix what isn't *broken* approach -- I'm fine either way. But I think the handbook or some tool should obnoxiously spit the flags (and a minor justification for each flag and/or the set of flags)

Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a readme.gentoo_force_print_elog function to force elog printing

2013-01-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-01-2013 a las 08:16 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal escribió: 2013/1/21 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org: This can be useful when, for example, doc contents are modified. You can then rely on using REPLACING_VERSIONS in your ebuild to print messages when people updates from versions using old

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 January 2013 03:56, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/21/2013 07:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: My suspicion is that portage's environment save/restore process will overwrite any setting I attempt to make on the destination host. If necessary, you can use /etc/portage/bashrc to

Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a readme.gentoo_force_print_elog function to force elog printing

2013-01-22 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2013/1/22 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org: El mar, 22-01-2013 a las 08:16 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal escribió: Would'nt be better to just set some variable in the ebuild, rather than call function that touches empty file? Tom I think it can be done in either way... but I don't see the advantage of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 22/01/2013 04:38, Robin H. Johnson ha scritto: I'm raising this patch because of the recent spate of bugs with the latest udev that now fails to boot your system if CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not available in your kernel. Bugs: 408947, 409393, 437320, 453074 CONFIG_CHECK has not been fatal for

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:11 AM, viv...@gmail.com viv...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO the number of cases where CONFIG_CHECK is reliable is so small that making it fatal will only bloat make.conf and env with a new var for most users. Tend to agree. I just got an elog out of udisks complaining about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 22 January 2013 03:28, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Dustin C. Hatch admiraln...@gmail.com wrote: The package defaults have gotten out of hand, in my opinion. I use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.net wrote: While I tend towards the cleaner design, not the don't fix what isn't *broken* approach -- I'm fine either way. But I think the handbook or some tool should obnoxiously spit the flags (and a minor justification

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-22 Thread Mike Pagano
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 07:14:12 PM Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne So 12. ledna 2013 14:49:52, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. napsal(a): Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates for January. I don't want to annoy people with automatically filed bugs, and at the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/01/13 13:12, Rich Freeman wrote: As a long-time user, I can't put myself in a first-time user's frame of reference. But it would be useful for me whenever I'm installing Gentoo on a new device, if I were able to have the profile's USE-flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-22 Thread Petteri Räty
On 13.1.2013 0.49, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates for January. I don't want to annoy people with automatically filed bugs, and at the same time I also received lots of positive feedback about the effort to keep the stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-20 23h59 UTC

2013-01-22 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:10:12PM +0100, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-20 23h59 UTC. How about sending

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-22 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2013/1/22 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org: I have an RSS feed for this purpose at: http://gentoo.petteriraty.eu/stable.rss Sources are available here: https://github.com/betelgeuse/scripts/blob/master/rss-changelog Maybe this is something that should be pushed to official Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-22 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13.1.2013 0.49, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates for January. I don't want to annoy people with automatically filed bugs, and at the same time I also

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/22/2013 01:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 22 January 2013 03:56, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/21/2013 07:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: My suspicion is that portage's environment save/restore process will overwrite any setting I attempt to make on the destination host. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/21/2013 10:22 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: 22.01.2013 08:23, Mike Gilbert wrote: I guess this change is ok, given that I can opt-out fairly easily. Zac's workaround for binary packages makes me feel better too. I am curious, can not this check be added to eclass? Or eclass does not know

Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a readme.gentoo_force_print_elog function to force elog printing

2013-01-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-01-2013 a las 10:33 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal escribió: 2013/1/22 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org: El mar, 22-01-2013 a las 08:16 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal escribió: Would'nt be better to just set some variable in the ebuild, rather than call function that touches empty file? Tom

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 06:51:54AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/21/2013 10:22 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: 22.01.2013 08:23, Mike Gilbert wrote: I guess this change is ok, given that I can opt-out fairly easily. Zac's workaround for binary packages makes me feel better too. I am curious,

[gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:12:06 -0500 as excerpted: Should we therefore list all the flags on the system and which ones are enabled and disabled? I guess we could, but it is a REALLY long list. In practice I find that the way I tend to use USE flags is that I just ignore

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How a proper server profile should look like

2013-01-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 02:06:29PM +0100, Alexander Berntsen wrote As a long-time user, I can't put myself in a first-time user's frame of reference. But it would be useful for me whenever I'm installing Gentoo on a new device, if I were able to have the profile's USE-flags listed. (I know I

[gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates rss feed html pages

2013-01-22 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 14:44 +0100, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13.1.2013 0.49, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates for January. I don't want to annoy

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates rss feed html pages

2013-01-22 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 14:44 +0100, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13.1.2013 0.49, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Please review attached automatically

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates rss feed html pages

2013-01-22 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 01:15 -0200, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 14:44 +0100, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13.1.2013

Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a readme.gentoo_force_print_elog function to force elog printing

2013-01-22 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne Út 22. ledna 2013 19:37:12, Pacho Ramos napsal(a): I agree, thanks for pointing it. Just attached patch should handle it. Still not nice enough for me :D Use the ECLASS_VARIABLE to describe it @DEFAULT_UNSET is what you seek, see git-2.eclass. Tom signature.asc Description: This is a