[gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Michael Weber
Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. I'm not opposed to the specific change, or base system changes in general, but I don't like

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Ole Markus With
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/2013 06:54 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Because it would require us to change a whole load more than just the targets variable. This is sort of the same for PHP. We need to know the major and minor version based on the flag value. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. I think that makes a lot of sense as a guideline. To me, it's a bit weird to change a USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-07-31, o godz. 09:38:20 Ole Markus With olemar...@olemarkus.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/2013 06:54 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Because it would require us to change a whole load more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:21:20AM +0200, Michael Weber wrote Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. I'm not opposed to the

[gentoo-dev] New eclass: db-use-r1

2013-07-31 Thread Polynomial-C
Hi list, I'd like to propose a new eclass db-use-r1 [1]. While working on the dev-libs/Ice package I found it to fail with sys- libs/db:6.0 (see [2]) and I have found no way to use current db-use.eclass to make Ice compile against an older sys-libs/db slot if db:6.0 is installed. So I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Michael Weber
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. [...] If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install ISO, I would be part of the crowd up in arms about this. It does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:56 -0700 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: I committed it last night before your email. # Keep it sorted. Please do not add anything without prior discussion # on gentoo-dev. n32 n64 o32 This is not a valid format for a .desc file. You should use: flag -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Douglas Freed
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:21:20AM +0200, Michael Weber wrote Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list if base profile

[gentoo-dev] Re: Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:53:50 -0400 as excerpted: Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. I'm one of those weird guys who starts USE with -*. aolMe too./aol And I do not have gpm the USE flag enabled.

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Ole Markus With olemar...@olemarkus.org wrote: I don't really care what the separator is. The reason I chose dash for separation major/minor version was simply to distinguish between the value and variable part of USE_EXPAND. Just seemed natural at the time. I

[gentoo-dev] Re: s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-31 Thread Chris Brannon
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org writes: Also, drive space would be dead wrong. A drive[1] is a device which holds a storage medium (often a disk, as in, you know, a disk drive). Solid-state drive is even more confusing than solid-state disk (and both are common parlance). In the interest of

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-31 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/07/13 10:53 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, viv...@gmail.com viv...@gmail.com wrote: does storage space make everyone happy? rich0 is confused and looks over at the storage space he keeps his bicycles in...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-31 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:56 -0700 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: I committed it last night before your email. # Keep it sorted. Please do not add anything without prior discussion # on gentoo-dev. n32 n64

[gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is currently reverting that commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? portageq owners / /path/to/directory -- Thanks, Zac

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? portageq owners / /path/to/directory But, doesn't it force me to

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist?

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static builds. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:07:39PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: On

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 19:42 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static builds. But, what is requiring it?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. [...] If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. [...] If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static builds. Robin, I'm curious what the use case for keeping them as static

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Luca Barbato
On 01/08/13 04:03, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static builds. Robin, I'm curious what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. If Robin wants to support USE=static for lvm2, he can do so. If it somehow caused problems with other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 04:22:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: On 01/08/13 04:03, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:32:56PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. If Robin wants to support USE=static