Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:11:04 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > I forgot most files were mirrored. So the infrastructure that is the > answer to my question is already in place. Consequently, I don't think > there's any reason to argue against this, unless it ultimately ends up > being a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 23:37:48 CET schrieb R0b0t1: > Hello, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > with regards to the current mailing list (ML) split discussion, and one > > specific message deep down there by mgorny

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 17:59:59 CET schrieb Anton Molyboha: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > 3. Moderation > > - > > The moderation team has to consist of at least two developers. The > > moderators > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > 5. Reasons for warnings and bans > > > > --snip-- > > > c) spamming, i.e. flooding discussions with lots of messages in a row > > d) constant postings

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > On 2017-12-17 14:21, Michał Górny wrote: > > Total size of 'files' subdirectory of a package should not be > > larger than 32 KiB. If the package needs more auxiliary files, they > > should be put into

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Matthew Thode
On 17-12-21 08:34:31, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 21.12.2017 o godzinie 05∶29 +, użytkownik Duncan > napisał: > > Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > > > > In all this I don't see an answer to one question: > > > > Will this eventually be the only

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > A new set of 17.1 amd64 profiles has been added to the Gentoo > repository. Those profiles switch to a more standard 'no SYMLINK_LIB' > multilib layout, > and require explicit migration as described below. They are considered

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu czw, 21.12.2017 o godzinie 05∶29 +, użytkownik Duncan napisał: > Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > > > A new set of 17.1 amd64 profiles has been added to the Gentoo > > repository. Those profiles switch to a more standard 'no SYMLINK_LIB' > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Jason Zaman
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 06:29:57PM +0100, Hans de Graaff wrote: > On Wed, 2017-12-20 at 18:02 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >   sys-process/vixie-cron > > My understanding is that vixie-cron is no longer maintained and sys- > process/cronie is the drop-in replacement that is now also

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
Hi, mysql project is using https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/mysql-extras.git/ (i.e. an own repository) to track patches. What I like about it: 1) We track patches/changes due to using a VCS. 2) We can fetch directly from gitweb.gentoo.org, i.e. no need to adjust SRC_URI when changing a patch.

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2017-12-20 Thread Amy Liffey
Hello, The following packages are up for grabs: x11-libs/libast dev-cpp/gmock sys-boot/cromwell-bin sys-boot/cromwell sys-boot/raincoat dev-vcs/pwclient dev-vcs/cvsync app-cdr/extract-xiso app-cdr/xdvdfs-tools www-apache/mod_h2 app-crypt/osslsigncode app-crypt/crackpkcs12 sys-auth/pam_bioapi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 20.12.2017 o godzinie 08∶28 -0500, użytkownik Brian Evans napisał: > On 12/18/2017 1:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, everyone. > > > > The first news item I'd like to submit for 17.1 profiles follows. > > The item is aimed at ~amd64 users who'd like to test the new profiles. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > >> However, what alternative do we have to throwing the patches up in a >> devspace? > > mirror://gentoo, aka

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review

2017-12-20 Thread Brian Evans
On 12/18/2017 1:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > The first news item I'd like to submit for 17.1 profiles follows. > The item is aimed at ~amd64 users who'd like to test the new profiles. > When they become stable, a separate news item for all our users will be > published. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Here's an update using Display-If-Profile header instead. The item applies to users of 13.0 and 17.0 profiles, except for x32 profiles that have been using the correct layout already. === Title: Experimental amd64 17.1 profiles up for testing Author: Michał Górny Posted:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:34:14 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Alexis Ballier > wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 > > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > > >> However, what alternative do we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread nado
Hi, December 20, 2017 5:46 PM, "Michał Górny" wrote: > E. Some of the unmaintained packages are dependencies of other > maintained packages in Gentoo. However, developers usually don't want > to take them, even if their package is the only revdep. > > F. We are usually

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, I was maintaining the following package net-p2p/tribler but I just dropped it to maintainer-needed. Someone asked me for it, but it needs work on bumping and its not that interesting/important to me. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/20/17 12:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron > > sys-process/anacron [m] > sys-process/at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:02:22 +0100 schrieb Michał Górny : > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:02:22 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:M68k > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/20/17 12:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 12/20/17 12:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hello, everyone. >> >> Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following >> projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: >> >>

[gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. Jalus Bilieyich has submitted the following for the last Council meeting: | Discuss the lack of enough package maintainers to update ebuilds. Many | ebuilds in the Portage tree can be easily marked outdated. Given that the item didn't see any real discussion in the mailing

[gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron sys-process/anacron [m] sys-process/at sys-process/bcron sys-process/cronbase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Wed, 2017-12-20 at 18:02 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > >   sys-process/vixie-cron My understanding is that vixie-cron is no longer maintained and sys- process/cronie is the drop-in replacement that is now also suggested as the default cron in the handbook.

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:49:03 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > So does anyone have any ideas on what we could realistically do right > now to improve things? Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We could send outdated packages there to die or to be born

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Christopher Head
On December 20, 2017 8:49:03 AM PST, "Michał Górny" wrote: >Ad. 1. We currently have over 1650 m-n packages [1] and the list keeps >growing. The advantage of this type is that we have an explicit list >and everyone clearly sees that the packages need a new maintainer. We >also

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Ilya Tumaykin
qlist -Iv $(portageq --repo gentoo --orphaned) On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:54:27 MSK Christopher Head wrote: > On December 20, 2017 8:49:03 AM PST, "Michał Górny" wrote: > >Ad. 1. We currently have over 1650 m-n packages [1] and the list keeps > >growing. The advantage

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2017, 17:48:54 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > On 12/16/2017 10:14 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > >> On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > >>> 5. Reasons for warnings and bans > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 06:33:21PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/20/2017 02:41 PM, Virgil Dupras wrote: > > > > Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We > > could send outdated packages there to die or to be born again if the > > right person picks it up. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/20/2017 02:41 PM, Virgil Dupras wrote: > > Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We > could send outdated packages there to die or to be born again if the > right person picks it up. > > The overlay could have more relaxed rules (not malicious and looking > good?

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/20/2017 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > There already is an overlay for dying packages, it is called graveyard, > but no one is putting things there. > > This email conflates old dying packages with new versions, which are a > completely separate issue. > Lack of new versions *is*

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 07:12:45PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/20/2017 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > There already is an overlay for dying packages, it is called graveyard, > > but no one is putting things there. > > > > This email conflates old dying packages with new

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread R0b0t1
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > There is a specific RFC about splitting the mailing list because of a > problematic style of conversation. > Well, yes - but what is problematic? Certain parties keep vaguely alluding to past actions, which is what I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > According to Merriam-Webster: > > self-evident > adjective | self-ev·i·dent | ˌself-ˈe-və-dənt , -ˌdent > evident without proof or reasoning > The version I used is taken from

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread kuzetsa
On 12/16/2017 10:14 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: >> On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: >>> 5. Reasons for warnings and bans >>> >> --snip-- >> >>> c) spamming, i.e. flooding discussions with lots