Moderated WIki - ( Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January )

2006-01-03 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've actually been tinkering with this idea for a whole mostly due to the gross amount of crazy crap that is posted to gentoo-wiki.com ( no offense to the site which otherwise does a great job ). However I was under the impression that the docs team

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-04 Thread Alec Warner
that get killed off by the council as well as slacker council members? More things to consider ;) Alec Warner (antarus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQ7yw+WzglR5RwbyYAQK4og

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Alec Warner
to write are internal portage API docs/FAQ/Howto's, and I doubt you will see users pounding on the door to read them :) Alec Warner (antarus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Alec Warner
.) I would prefer to keep USE_ORDER for now, since I was going to replace the auto dict with the default-iuse which means you can choose not to stack these new flags. Although it may be a hack, we have no better way of managing use flag stacks at the moment. - -Alec Warner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Find apps not ported to modular X

2006-01-19 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Lares Moreau wrote: Could you post updates once a week(or two), similar to what [EMAIL PROTECTED] does with the aging ebuilds. I don't feel a play-by-play is necessary. I will be posting daily updates until it goes

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --update has problem with slotted packages?

2006-01-20 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Köhler wrote: Hi, so look at this: # equery l |grep sun-jdk dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.06-r2 # emerge -up sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! #

[gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
there is an exception thrown for kde-base/metadata.xml. I have nfc what the hell that is doing in package.mask, but I was told it was already fixed ;) - -Alec Warner (antarus) [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferringb/stale-p.mask.list [2] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferringb/stale-p.mask.py -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
Marius Mauch wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:17, Alec Warner wrote: I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were really referencing anything or not. Luckily Brian was able

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
don't believe this to be the case here, I just don't want to see it become commonplace ;) Alec Warner (antarus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQ9awSGzglR5RwbyYAQIYAhAAiTkJ8Om

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Alec Warner
, because guess what, the base system is already installed! If openSSL depends on perl and perl depends on openSSL, who cares, they are both installed, not a problem! - -Alec Warner (antarus) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http

[gentoo-dev] Repoman and his automagic

2006-01-27 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are a couple of bugs against repoman that request repoman detect and do things for the developer. The two cases are: repoman does not auto-commit new license files[1] repoman should cvs add files/ if it isn't already[2] I personally am

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Alec Warner
Marcelo Góes wrote: It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: snip Perhaps it should be a global USE flag? We have discussed this fairly recently[1] so I'll post the link to save everyone the hassle. [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-devw=2r=1s=logrotateq=b

[gentoo-dev] [OT] Test

2006-02-04 Thread Alec Warner
I've been having a crapton of problems with sending to this list, just making sure I got them all resolved :) Sorry for the Spam -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Alec Warner
this, is my point ;) -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-09 Thread Alec Warner
Grobian wrote: Please find attached GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables. The GLEP is a Gentoo/Alt initiative. Constructive comments are welcome. The variables ``ELIBC``, ``KERNEL`` and ``ARCH`` are currently set in the profiles when other than their defaults for a GNU/Linux

[gentoo-dev] dopython

2006-02-15 Thread Alec Warner
issues? ). If anyone has any reason to keep dopython around please voice your concerns now, as we will probably be killing it in the next bump of 2.1 -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
just covered your ass, in terms of people going where the hell did that come from? -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
agreement on all sides :) --Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] bug #20201 and bbapm

2006-02-27 Thread Alec Warner
bbapm has been masked due to no one responding with anything useful to last rites e-mail. It will be punted in 30 days. -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug #20201 and bbapm

2006-02-27 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:15:13 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | bbapm has been masked due to no one responding with anything useful to | last rites e-mail. It will be punted in 30 days. No no no. Do this properly. Clean up *all* the broken blackbox applets

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Alec Warner
, because as far as I'm aware there is no workaround present. -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Alec Warner
: if [ ${IS_UPGRADE} = 1 ] ; then einfo Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG} emerge -C ${REMOVE_PKG} fi Semantics of the logic aside, calling emerge from within an ebuild is a BIG nono. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 28 February 2006 16:02, Jakub Moc wrote: 28.2.2006, 21:39:43, Mike Frysinger wrote: whats your point ? if an ebuild author wants to control the SLOT, then they should be able to without having an invalid warning issued on the subject considering the nature of

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-01 Thread Alec Warner
Mark Loeser wrote: Here is my updated version after some feedback from people: * In the case of disagreement on policy among QA members, the majority of established QA members must agree with the action. What is an Established QA member? I guess this won't be reviewed by the council

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Alec Warner
No they won't, but elog in portage-2.1 will gladly send them a message via whatever configuration they have about the warning that the ebuild produced. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
Michael Renner wrote: Hi, as suggested by Mike in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123335, here's my proposal for changing the layout of the distfiles tree: Introducing an additional directory hierarchy should fix this, and is the common solution for this problem for various

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
it with that information it can at least die during depgraph creation stating what the problem is with the depgraph ( getting closer to having actaul buildplans... ). -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
Michael Renner wrote: Kurt Lieber wrote: If we can come up with a seamless, painless transition process, great, let's make it happen. From the _MIRROR_-side using hardlinks should be fine enough, we'd just have to ensure that every mirror uses -H (preserve hardlinks). And for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
not be special cased in a mapping since. URI's are URI's are URI's... -Alec Warner - [1] dev.gentoo.org/~antarus/URI_check.py -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
team, so while it's a powerful tool for some users, it's also quite volatile in terms of how it is sourced. It should not be depended on. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] x86-fbsd keyword in main tree?

2006-03-09 Thread Alec Warner
='x86-fbsd' - would get forcefully injected into USE, OR use.force: x86-fbsd - a use flag that isn't killed by -*. Whatever the fix is we should be able to make a 2.0.54-r1 release with it, still need to talk to Zac, if anyone has any comments on this, now would be the time ;) -Alec Warner

Re: [gentoo-dev] x86-fbsd keyword in main tree?

2006-03-09 Thread Alec Warner
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:20:33 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically portage expands $ARCH into use ( so x86-fbsd has ARCH x86, and would get x86 in use, which IMHO, isn't that horrible ). However, you also don't get x86-fbsd shoved into USE, so you have

[gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND in IUSE ( again )

2006-03-10 Thread Alec Warner
or that there were no QA warnings when there should have been...etc.. -Other ideas are always welcome; I'd prefer to get this solved soon. -Alec Warner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Alec Warner
m h wrote: I'm not a gentoo dev (just a satisfied user), but I lurk on this list. I was at PyCon last month. I would estimate that about 40% of the people there ran linux on their laptops. The most popular distros were gentoo and ubuntu. (Not this is not a scientific study, just my

[gentoo-dev] Sandboxes

2006-03-23 Thread Alec Warner
for development. Thoughts on ideas on this somewhat more focussed idea? ( or at least I think it's more focused :P ) -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sandboxes

2006-03-23 Thread Alec Warner
Stefan Schweizer wrote: On 3/24/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts on ideas on this somewhat more focussed idea? ( or at least I think it's more focused :P ) IMO motivation b) is not taken into account enough. You are missing out a general-user-overlay, where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
. This doesn't mean don't tell anyone about it so that no one shows up. It means interested users will probably inquire about helping out, etc...and can be granted access fairly easily. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: Thanks for the summary. I think that's a fair assessment of where we are at. The offered software will be trac, svn, and moinmoin. I'm going to look at darcs, and with the help of the haskell team and infra determine if we can support it or not. No-one has expressed

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/ocaml - to be or not to be

2006-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
Ingo Bormuth wrote: Hi dev-list, what is the rule concerning when to introduce new virtuals? I created an ebuild for metaocaml which is a real drop in replacement for the ocaml programming language allowing for metaprogramming and dynamic linking. Metaocaml in fact is a patched version of

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/acl

2006-04-02 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:26:27 +0100 Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | We have a fair number of packages in the tree (57 someone said, but a | non-trivial number) which depend upon sys-apps/acl for ACL support. | Since the packages needed for this differ between

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge resume list

2006-04-05 Thread Alec Warner
packages to not build, and the dependency tree to essentially be broken for that list. Also, portage questions are generally well received at gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org, or on IRC: irc.freenode.net #gentoo-portage. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Alec Warner
answers could be starting point for new chunks to add to the official or unofficial handbooks. -- TGL. +1, plus the ML is archived unlike IRC, and users can search archives and we could more easily compile a FAQ about ebuild writing and such. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let portage symlink latest version of installed docs

2006-04-08 Thread Alec Warner
Simon Stelling wrote: Graham Murray wrote: Fabian Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'd like portage do to is to create a symlink to the latest version of a package's documentation. Just omitting the version number would of course not work as slotted packages may have multiple versions

Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Alec Warner
to use your profile. Your profile is a tool that should be useful to all classes of users. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-server 1.0.99/1.1 ABI break

2006-04-17 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Simon Stelling wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: We are working to ensure the dependencies work as smoothly as possible, but I expect there will be some issues since it's difficult to require updates to all these optional drivers following an update to the server.

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-server 1.0.99/1.1 ABI break

2006-04-17 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Olivier Crête wrote: On Mon, 2006-17-04 at 13:05 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Alec Warner wrote: Well the semantics of the blocker is that the new driver won't work with the old server; is that true? Or just the old drivers won't work with the new server? New

Re: [gentoo-dev] xorg-server 1.0.99/1.1 ABI break

2006-04-17 Thread Alec Warner
A valid problem with this approach. Is requiring everyone to unmerge drivers a worse solution than breaking some people who emerged drivers directly? I very much dislike making people unmerge things. It's not intuitive for anyone, having to remove the old program to upgrade a dependency

[gentoo-dev] Portage Features That Depend on Binaries [WAS: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Re: 2.1 release candidate soon? ]

2006-04-19 Thread Alec Warner
Philipp Riegger wrote: On Apr 15, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Duncan wrote: But i really think this is not about helping but about confusion. If i post my emerge --info you don't know if i really use confcache even if i have FEATURES=confcache, because emerge --info does not say if i have emerged

Re: [gentoo-dev] DEPEND/RDEPEND question

2006-04-25 Thread Alec Warner
Alin Nastac wrote: Lets say a package foo depends on bar, both at compile time and run time. Shouldn't DEPEND _and_ RDEPEND of the foo package reflect that dependency? I usually set DEPEND=$RDEPEND ... or vice-versa (depending on which is the most demanding). Am I utterly wrong here? I know

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo, Google's Summer of Code, and You

2006-04-27 Thread Alec Warner
As many of you know by now, Gentoo has been chosen to fill one of the last spaces in this year's Google Summer of Code. This is a great opportunity for developers and users to interact and help out Gentoo as well as the OSS community. For those of you who haven't heard of Google's Summer of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo, Google's Summer of Code, and You

2006-04-28 Thread Alec Warner
Alec Warner wrote: But anyone who is a Gentoo developer can mentor a Student on one of the projects for which Gentoo is the Mentoring Organization. I had four people proofread and I still screwed up. Once again, ANYONE is eligible to Mentor a student on behalf of Gentoo. If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Alec Warner
Ryan Phillips wrote: This is a follow up to Mark's (halcy0n's) thread regarding QA Policies and seemant's letter on herds, teams, and projects. I believe the way Gentoo is doing things is broken. There I have said it. The entire project has reached a level of being too political and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-30 Thread Alec Warner
it for pkgcore, so I'll fire that up as well. I haven't looked at mercurial but it is on the list ;) -Alec Warner Mercurial should use a bit less disk and git should be a little faster and with better merge/conflict resolution features. lu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: [gentoo-portage-dev] Breakout etc-update, dispatch-conf]

2006-05-02 Thread Alec Warner
In an attempt to receive more comments and to request comments on the virtual/config-manager, I have forwarded this mail here. Please comment + point out weird things wrong. I'd prefer to make either dispatch-conf or cfg-update the default for the virtual, but I am definately open to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 01:26 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 10:13:36 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Wed, 10 May 2006 00:07:29 -0700 Donnie Berkholz | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | so discussion with at least the portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Alec Warner
are commiting then; do you have a link? -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] 259 paludis-profile messages. ENOUGH!

2006-05-18 Thread Alec Warner
from it. -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Alec Warner
Paul de Vrieze wrote: The promissed glep on package manager requirements. Please comment on it. There are some parts that may be controversial (portage has in the past not provided support for reverting to stable either), but please keep the discussion on topic. Paul s/primary/official/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Alec Warner
. /example -Alec Warner -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] pmask cleaning

2006-05-27 Thread Alec Warner
I've taken the liberty of cleaning out some of pmask. Pretty much anything pre-2004 that covers stuff that isn't in the tree. Removed: Bug 43658 is closed, we only have ebuilds for 1.2.10 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] (03 Mar 2004) # security problems. see bug #43658. net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.9 Removed from

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] www-client/prozilla

2006-05-28 Thread Alec Warner
This guy is a security nightmare and has been masked on and off for security vulnerabilities[1] for the last two years. If no one objects I will punt it from the tree in 30 days. [1]http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70090 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-db/xmysqladmin dev-db/mysqlnavigator removal

2006-05-28 Thread Alec Warner
Francesco Riosa wrote: Both dev-db/xmysqladmin and dev-db/mysqlnavigator has no active homepage. Both need to be patched to compile agains mysql-4.1.10a (avoiding OLD_FUNCTIONS workaround). expecially xmysqladmin seems to be unsupported anymore. It's possible to remove them from portage

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] net-misc/powerd pmasked with security issues

2006-05-28 Thread Alec Warner
powerd has an open security vulnerability [1] and no maintainer. Someone can claim it in the next 30 days or I will punt it then. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70373 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] sys-fs/convertfs

2006-05-28 Thread Alec Warner
sys-fs/convertfs has an open bug [1] and is seeking a maintainer, if none is found I will punt it in 30 days, per the usual. -Antarus [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107635 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rights for dev-util/perforce

2006-05-29 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: Hi, The dev-util/perforce packages: - dev-util/perforce - dev-util/perforce-cli - dev-util/perforce-gui - dev-util/perforce-proxy - dev-util/perforce-server are in need of a new maintainer. If no-one volunteers in time, the packages will be masked Saturday 8th

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] dev-libs/nana

2006-05-29 Thread Alec Warner
Good candidate for last rites... - SRC_URI dead, so this only lives on Gentoo mirrors - no maintainer, this bug[1] has been sitting here for 2 1/2 years So without further ado, pmasked for 30 days pending removal. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32672 signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-29 Thread Alec Warner
So we created this awesome alias to put ebuilds that need a maintainer. Good idea at the time, decent idea still. The problem? We have nearly 2000 open bugs assigned to maintainer-wanted[1]. I would like to discuss policy on these. Do we keep them, do we get a group of people to slowly review

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites ipkg-utils]

2006-05-30 Thread Alec Warner
ipkg-utils was maintained by tigger who is no longer a dev. As far as tigger/solar are aware there is no reason to keep it in the tree. It will be pmask'd and punted in 30 days at their request. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 49 (g2boojum's version)

2006-06-02 Thread Alec Warner
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:48:39 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is actually that such a document is a living thing and it must not only exist initially but be maintained continuously. Must it? I'd be more inclined to say that if it needs to

[gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-03 Thread Alec Warner
everyone using the package to see the masking message and the corresponding bug when they use portage. Questions and Comments are welcome, as always. -Alec Warner [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need a use-expanded TV_GRAB variable for xmltv

2006-06-04 Thread Alec Warner
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Sunday 04 June 2006 14:56, Mike Frysinger wrote: what about TV_CAPTURE_CARDS You got it quite wrong, it's not about the TV cards :) It's about TV guide grabbers. TV_GUIDE_GRABBERS see that was easy ;) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-04 Thread Alec Warner
Slipping this in before 2.1 goes stable, it's a small check. Basically if your ebuild inherits a VCS eclass ( currently darcs, subversion, cvs ) AND your ebuild has stable keywords on any arches repoman will report an error. One thing to note here: Are there any cases when one inherits a

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Alec Warner
Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 02:24:24AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 01:54:08AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:19:41AM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-06 Thread Alec Warner
Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: On Втр, 2006-06-06 at 00:17 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: That's why we use a SCM for managing the ebuilds: the removed ebuilds are still found via cvs commands and on sources.gentoo.org But how can I search for removed ebuild in cvs? Is there any quick

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-07 Thread Alec Warner
Grant Goodyear wrote: Zac Medico wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 01:30:38PM CDT] Mike Frysinger wrote: this is a *huge* con ... developers are lazy, *i'm* lazy ... i certainly do not want to go through every single package i maintain and add 'debug-build' to IUSE or 'inherit some-new-eclass'

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-07 Thread Alec Warner
Ned Ludd wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 16:05 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: We've discussed this multiple times, and it's always been the conclusion that per package.env should go in bashrc, as bashrc is generally more powerful than anything we could devise. The only downside afaik, for bashrc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Shouldn't gcc-4.1-related bugs have some kind of priority as gcc-4.1 is now unmasked?

2006-06-08 Thread Alec Warner
Matteo Azzali wrote: This is just a mine question, but it seems that since gcc-4.1 got it's way into portage (~branch) things are getting slower. Lots of the bugs blocking bug #117482 - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482 - have a patch in the report or an ebuild for revision bump,

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-08 Thread Alec Warner
Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 06:49 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 19:12, Alec Warner wrote: I would be more concerned with convincing the rest of the developers. adding crap in base profile.bashrc will affect 99% of users, so it better

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Alec Warner
Jon Portnoy wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct change in games team policy without any prior notice to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Alec Warner
Grant Goodyear wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 07:42:03PM CDT] Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Alec Warner
Why? Because having two year old bugs is simply inexcusable. Especially when many have not had any activity for a long time. Having maintainer-wanted bugs for months on end is silly. Giving a user who files a ebuild request or submits an ebuild deserves the chance to take ownership of it. It's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Alec Warner
Roy Marples wrote: Some packages provide both a client and a server. As such, users usually only want one or the other - and rarely both. A good candidate is net-misc/dhcp as it installs a DHCP client and server. Which makes no sense really, so I'd like to put some USE flags here to show

[gentoo-dev] Portage-2.1 released

2006-06-09 Thread Alec Warner
Portage-2.1 final is released, RELEASE-NOTES[1] NEWS[2] BUGS-FIXED[3] STABLIZING BUG[4] [1]http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage/main/trunk/RELEASE-NOTES?view=markup [2]http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage/main/trunk/NEWS?view=markup

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage-2.1 released

2006-06-09 Thread Alec Warner
Wernfried Haas wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:12:31PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Portage-2.1 final is released, Congrats to the portage team! While i'm at it, may i ask which files are affected by these changes / which docs i missed to read? * config files as directories enabling more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-09 Thread Alec Warner
Roy Marples wrote: On Friday 09 June 2006 23:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 09 June 2006 16:35, Chris Gianelloni wrote: This is the official (hehe) request for comments on making a policy of how to handle ebuilds than can be used for either client or server and how to allow for building

Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-10 Thread Alec Warner
Lack of content and poorly written or incorrect articles are often justified by the GWN team on grounds of overwork and insufficient manpower. When I asked why they were not recruiting, I was informed that no-one has any interest in contributing. There's a big difference between one-off

Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-11 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:13:36PM +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: To take an example, there were made up quotes in my GWN interview, however, nothing of great harm. I believe that time it was a case of attempting to make it more fun, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (News) revisited

2006-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
Stephen Bennett wrote: Since GLEP 42's original author and sponsor has left the project, I've taken it over, and would like to have another go at getting it implemented. I've just updated the version in CVS[1], which should be making its way onto the www nodes, but with any luck the full text

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Alec Warner
Daniel Ostrow wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:04 -0400, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: Continuing in the series of issues raised during the previous package manager discussions, I'd like to continue by mentioning the tree format. At present, it isn't defined beyond what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sharing portage?

2006-06-13 Thread Alec Warner
Jonathan Adamczewski wrote: Molle Bestefich wrote: Hi Follow-up question to the backup thingy. Is there an easy way to share Portage's database between multiple virtual machines? Optimally, I would emerge --sync and the results would land in a filesystem that I'd share between VMs, so I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:42, Alec Warner wrote: * autouse (use.defaults) has been deprecated by specifying USE_ORDER in make.defaults. Users may still turn this back on by specifying USE_ORDER=env:pkg:conf:auto:defaults in make.conf. Interested in figuring out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:18:57AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I would have *no problem* with an opt-in system. Instead of using InOverlay (which is a poor choice anyway... which overlay?) as some sort of tag, instead, assign the package to the project which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Peter wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:59:12 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 14:42, Alec Warner wrote: * autouse (use.defaults) has been deprecated by specifying USE_ORDER in make.defaults. Users may still turn this back on by specifying

[gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group packages and maintaining developers? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-18 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Joshua Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:39:06 -0500: I have written documentation on switching to the new system, from the user's perspective, over at our wiki [6] [6]

[gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of linux-info eclass. As such I would like to deprecate $KV

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 19/06/2006-11:13:33(+): Alec Warner types Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux (.config, make files, etc...) This is duplicating the superb efforts

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites: app-admin/scotty]

2006-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Scotty has been pmasked due to sandbox violations[1]. I spent about 30 minutes looking at them and solving them is not as simple as I'd first hoped, I asked trelane to double check my logic and he came to a similar conclusion. As such with no maintainer or herd this package is scheduled for

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