Petteri Räty wrote:
Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many
people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order
to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is
only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 11:59 Sun 25 Jan , Alistair Bush wrote:
Possible Solution:
Merging java-overlay and java-experimental. From my perspective this
isn't a good one as we loss most of the benefits of java-experimental.
Combine this with package.mask. To me, experimental means
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote:
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Could you explain what you see as the important difference that makes
package.mask bad and a separate overlay good?
Contributors sometimes have difficulty following standards (hell even
dev's
Caleb Cushing wrote:
I'd like to start with, I'm not trying to stir up trouble but since
questions were asked i'll answer them.
If you think neither should exist why do you have an opinion about this at all?
I merged the java-overlay into regen2 a couple of weeks ago. as of
right now I've
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Any thoughts?
+ *)
+ die Unknown EAPI ${EAPI}
+ ;;
Is is safe to assume that an unknown EAPI will
Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
Hi,
Reminder (for myself):
As long as we want/have to support PMs lacking EAPI detection in
'*.ebuild' to mask ebuilds with unknown EAPI, each approach to add EAPI
to an '*.ebuild' must be hackish. So we can try to find the least ugly
hack, or we need to change
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like this proposal's one of those things that
some people will hate for ideological reasons no matter what. I just
hope there're enough people on the Council for whom QA and user systems
not breaking is sufficiently important that they'll vote
Mart Raudsepp wrote:
Enabling tests by default feels like driving users away, because all of
a sudden their upgrades taken even more time (possibly unexplained to
them, as an EAPI bump in an ebuild introducing it is not visible to
them), and they'd just say to hell with it and go to a binary
You can't test FEATURES in an ebuild. It's portage-specific.
To 1) try and turn this thread into something a little more constructive
and a little less childish; and 2) help improve the tree. I present one
of the offending ebuilds dev-java/commons-io
Without posting the whole file here
Ben de Groot wrote:
Patrick Lauer wrote:
For quite some time (over a year, actually) we've been discussing the
mysterious and often misunderstood GLEP55.
[http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0055.html]
The proposed solution to a problem that is never refined,
This, in my opinion, is
Alex Alexander wrote:
QT doesn't work well when mixed versions of its core libraries are
installed. Usually an emerge -avDu world solves the problem, but some
users tend to avoid this.
For example, lets say you have parts of QT 4.4.2 on your system. QT
4.5.1 is available and a user
Dale wrote:
The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place.
That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two
forums? What would be the point in having two places to go look for
answers? Better yet, why would Gentoo support both forums?
I'm a
This patch removes the functionality within java-utils-2.eclass to
record and pass to java-config old style virtuals.
This functionality is not utilized within any repo that I know about and
is _most probably_ horribly broken anyway.
_ALL_ ebuilds that are using this functionality (aka 0) should
Firstly, fellow developer please review this eclass patch and read on if
you are interested in what it actually does.
Java developers:
The following patch adds 3 new values to our package.env
PVR and CATEGORY being the easy ones. These are being added because I
think they should be there and
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wulf C. Krueger w...@mailstation.de wrote:
between both. This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev-
zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's council meeting.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but with
Ben de Groot wrote:
I would think the only thing that matters is the best interest of
Gentoo. This is after all the _Gentoo_ Council we're speaking of, not a
body that is concerned with non-Gentoo matters.
++
In my opinion it is in the best interest of Gentoo at this point to
ignore
Simple patch as part of java-config's support for marking EOL and security
vulnerable vm's to be marked as 'build only'. Users setting these as either
their system or user vm will be warned of the risks of doing so.
The release of java-config with this functionality, this eclass and some
Stabilization of Python 3.1.* will be requested at the beginning of
november. There was a suggestion to create a news item which would inform
users that temporarily they shouldn't switch to Python 3 as their main
interpreter. Python ebuilds don't automatically activate Python 3, so I'm
Someone here want people install paludis? because when I've switched to
python 3.0 just out of curiosity, it broke totally that python written
package manager who is portage.
So another package manager was needed to re-install a sane portage.
No it wasn't. [1] You just didn't know that (
Hi,
i would like to start a discussion about reducing the amount of
default-enabled USE flags in profiles, especially in inherited basic
profiles.
Sounds like a reasonable idea to me, for the base profiles at least.
In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either
Le 15/12/2009 08:09, Ulrich Mueller a écrit :
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote:
On the other hand this may be something for treecleaners? A package
that has not been bumped for 7 years? With at least three releases
since, and a bumprequest open for at least one year? A link
On 5 March 2010 12:24, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
It won't be pulled in by sys-apps/portage dependencies which look
like this:
|| ( dev-lang/python:2.8 dev-lang/python:2.7 dev-lang/python:2.6
=dev-lang/python-3 )
If you already have python:2.6 installed then it will
Solution
1) Add two new packages to the tree:
- app-admin/geolizer (/usr/bin/geolizer)
- app-admin/webalizer-xtended (/usr/bin/webalizer-xtended)
2) Bump webalizer to 2.21 while
- no longer applying either feature patch
- removing use flag xtended
- keeping now
# Alistair Bush ali_b...@gentoo.org (15 Mar 2010)
# Mask for removal (#309459). Does not compile
# and Dead upstream. Recommend icedtea jdk's for
# a free alternative.
dev-java/kaffe
-Alistair
Zac Medico wrote:
I think what most people want is for portage not to pull in a package
that nothing uses. I'm not a dev nor a programmer but I have yet to see
any good reason for installing something that is not being used. It's
not being tested to see if it is stable. It would have to
I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the
projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily
outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org
So lets me start with a couple of obvious ones.
kportagetray
pkgcore
paludis
On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote:
It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some random
php/perl library that's known to work.
Have you ever just considered closing the stabilization bug and ignoring the
arch. If they take so long to mark your
So you mention openrc, but don't have it on the list?
Yes because openrc isn't really gentoo-specific. I don't want the list
blowing out to include ever package in the entire tree. ie. Thanking gcc for
contributing to gentoo.
Note this doesn't mean that openrc won't be on the list. I
diffball (the basis of y'alls delta compression for tarball
snapshots, progenitor of tarsync used by emerge-*webrsync, etc).
Thank you Brian for that pkg, its appreciated. My apologies if the rest is a
little less kind.
ps. I would like the packages to be specifically for gentoo, but
1 - requirements
In order to choose the best possible wiki implementation, we need to
know our requirements. So what features do you think are essential or
good to have? What syntax would we prefer to use?
I myself am a big fan of reStructuredText, which is quite simple,
On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process?
The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting.
Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually
meaningful. In my case I just finished both at the same
On 04/24/2010 09:14 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:40:54 +0300
Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
17:34 Betelgeuse robbat2|na: how easy to it to prevent commits to
CVS if the commit message doesn't match a certain pattern?
17:36 @robbat2|na go and checkout
Hi folks,
I'm currently collecting a set of rules which upstream developers
should follow to make distro maintainer's life easier.
Comments welcomed :)
Is this language specific? would you be interested in comments about java,
ruby, python, etc, etc, etc or are you only interested
I would like to commit a new java eclass within the next week.
This eclass is designed to support the functionality that Betelgeuse
outlined within a previous post.[1]
As you will be able to see, this eclass is very simple and only uses
functionality that will be provided by the
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 23:20 Thu 20 Sep , Alistair Bush wrote:
-# Create package.env
-(
-echo DESCRIPTION=\${DESCRIPTION}\
-echo GENERATION=\2\
-
-[[ -n ${JAVA_PKG_CLASSPATH} ]] echo
CLASSPATH
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 06:58 Fri 21 Sep , Alistair Bush wrote:
normally java-pkg_do_write_ is called to write the package.env out, as
can be seen, and is the default behavior for the function. What I am
adding is the ability to _do_write of a [virtual|provider].env file.
While
Yes it is cool, and the eclass will be updated.
Thank you dberkholz
Duncan wrote:
Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Oct 2007
19:00:02 -0700:
You can use a neat trick with a code block here, along these lines:
{
echo foo
On 13:25 Fri 12 Oct , Remi Cardona (remi) wrote:
1.1
dev-python/gnome-python-extras/gnome-python-extras-2.19.1-r1.ebuild
file :
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-python/gnome-python-extras/gnome-python-extras-2.19.1-r1.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup
On behalf of Elvanor ( a in the process New Developer ) I would like to
present the osgi.eclass.
What is OSGi, well
Copied directly from wikipedia [1]
The Framework implements a complete and dynamic component model,
something that is missing in standalone Java/VM environments.
Applications
Tiziano Müller wrote:
Current state: Deferred
Wanted state: Accepted/Implemented (at least by me)
Open questions from last discussion (March 2006):
- Is it possible/should it be possible to have more than one maintainer
entry?
Yes
- Is recording an upstream-status
This is not a support channel and that, while an interesting picture,
provides absolutely no information whatsoever.
Please don't post to the gentoo-dev ml.
Alistair.
--
gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
Hello!
I think flameeyes should have sent this himself in the first place, but
since he's clearly not going to do that and prefers to just force it on
our users I'm mailing this...
Have we not learn't! I hardly think that revdep-rebuild is an obvious
solution to
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
Hello,
looks like every nominee wants the council to be more technical so I
have a few technical questions for you:
1. GLEP54
2. GLEP55
3. Most wanted changes in future EAPIs
4. Strategies to ensure that gentoo's package manager is able to
quickly/smartly/sainly
Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 16:54:49 Richard Brown wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 17:39, Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At this point, we should really only discuss features that all 3 package
managers have implemented.
I'm not sure that's a good idea, only two
I was thinking about this a day or 2 ago and just noticed that a similar
situation has come up.
Please refer to https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239006 but
basically.
=dev-java/ant-antlr-1.7.1 was changed from EAPI=1 to EAPI=2 to take
advantage of the use flag dep functionality.
now, I
Dawid Węgliński wrote:
Hello fellow developers and users.
I'd like to know your opinion of bug #243050 [1]
01:18:59 cla @| If user bothers to patch his kernel, he can bother
to add proper package.keyword line, imo.
++
01:21:52 hparker @| Or maybe get the patches added
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
On Wednesday 31 of December 2008 17:28:09 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
You could use the same argument to say Gentoo must switch to RPM
because LSB says so.
No, I would be invalid argumentation - I know it - you know it, so let's not
continue with discussion of this kind
Dale wrote:
I don't think Gentoo is broke. It may be a wrong setting or something
misconfigured on your system but Gentoo works.
I really think you need to take this to -user tho. This thread really
needs to be there instead of on -dev.
Dale
:-) :-)
This thread doesn't need to
ali_bush
Alistair Bush
Gentoo Linux Developer
[1]
* ERROR: dev-java/commons-jelly-tags-util-1.0 failed.
* Call stack:
*ebuild.sh, line 1881: Called source
'/home/alistair/gentoo/overlays/java-experimental/dev-java/commons-jelly-tags-util/commons-jelly-tags-util
Tiziano Müller wrote:
What is proposed in glep-55 seems to aim to solve both issues at the
same time (it isn't stated) by switching file extension every time the
eapi is changed. This is slightly against the principle of the least
surprise and apparently is disliked by enough people to
Luca Barbato wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Because your proposal addresses none of the underlying problems which
GLEP 55 was created to solve.
let's get some numbers to have an idea of the dimension of the problem.
I just don't think those numbers tell us anything and
George Shapovalov wrote:
(Ok this thread grew too long, so I gotta chime in :))
We could start using extended attributes or mandate reiser4 for portage dir
or
some other special in between (the inside of file and its name) feature..
No.
1) I wouldn't use reiser4 so that would be the end
Luca Barbato wrote:
Alistair Bush wrote:
I just don't think those numbers tell us anything and that should be
obvious from anyone who has read GLEP 55[1], we ain't really attempting
to solve a problem that exists within the tree currently (well the bash
issue does, in a way ). We
On Thursday 08 February 2007 10:38 pm, Jose San Leandro wrote:
Hi all,
A friend of mine and myself are willing to develop some tools to help
ebuild development.
We have some constraints, but we are thinking on something like:
1) A tool to ease writing ebuilds. It would take some parameters,
Hi Alexandre.
I too would like to hear what your ideas are for the metastructure of
gentoo. Please if you dont feel up to officially submitting them then at
least submit them to this list.
Alistair
On 3/19/07, Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Alexandre,
Good luck in your new
Firstly...
From http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags/index.html
Local and Global USE Flags
USE flags are categorised as either local or global. A global USE flag
must satisfy several criteria:
* It is used by many different packages.
* It has a general non-specific
Ok, so I think I understand where you are coming from...
Firstly, USE flags are not meant to have a specific purpose. Enabling
python support is non-specific as it doesn't describe how it is enabled
or what python support actually is.
Lets compare 2 packages to demonstrate...
subversion has a
Hi lads,
due to recent situation about .la files status we would like to inform
users about this situation. See attached file that we propose to be
included as news item.
Would it not be a better solution to have this information documented
properly under Upgrade Guides or Gentoo System
Any improvements to the text are welcome.
I think the following could be written clearer. Reading it made me have to
go off and check what week 50 was.
If there is no interest the removal of Java support well be done during week
50 of year 2010.
why not say
'If there is no interest the
On 11/21/2010 04:57 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:38:23 +0200
Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 11/21/2010 12:46 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
I'm unmasking sys-devel/gcc-4.5.1 tomorrow. I'd like to recommend
everyone who has already unmasked it to rebuild it now as
it was suggested to me that I should post my patch to this ml. So here
it is.
Located at
http://dev.gentoo.org/~ali_bush/portage_parent_repo_support.patch
you will find a patch for repoman to support a hierarchy of overlays by
allowing an overlay to specify its parents. I have recently been
Hello List ans anyone!
I'm searching for a feature or an hint how and where to implement it.
Mmmm... Im not one of the knowledgable ppl around here but
you can have version ranges within files like package.keywords eg
cat/A-4.0
which would mean ~arch A-4.0 = arch
which is
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