[gentoo-dev] Re: new partner in crime: Denis Dupeyron (calchan)

2006-04-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hello everybody, SeJo wrote : I think we should all bow and welcome Denis Dupeyron. Thank you. Any relation with this other bending 'activity' you do with plasmaroo ? I urgently need to re-read the fine prints. He's a new addition to to the sci-electronics team. He'll be helping plasmaroo

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs

2006-05-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
The repository for SDCC has recently moved from CVS to Subversion. From now on, please use dev-embedded/sdcc-svn instead of dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs. dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs will be masked right now, and then removed in a month or so if nobody complains. Denis. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs

2006-05-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 5/6/06, Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs will be masked right now, and then removed in a month or so if nobody complains. A pkg move might be wise to do, no? -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Developer -- gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages that need maintainers

2006-05-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 5/5/06, Daniel Goller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following packages require a new maintainer, some might just be absorbed into their herds w/o a direct maintainer leaving them to the teams maintaining those herds, others might face

Re: [gentoo-dev] eutils.class fix for make_desktop_entry

2006-06-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 6/5/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go ahead and do it now. It really shouldn't break anything, as I can't think of a single thing using make_desktop _entry with a space in the executable name. What about games-board/gnubg-0.14.3 ? Denis. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs

2006-06-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Denis Dupeyron wrote: dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs will be masked right now, and then removed in a month or so if nobody complains. dev-embedded/sdcc-cvs is now removed. Denis. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Birth announcement : sci-electronics

2006-07-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Good news !The sci-electronics herd isn't one day old yet, but it is already diaper free (well, almost).In case you're interested to help, please drop us a message at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And don't forget to bring your own soldering iron.Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/7/06, Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Council idea is great. However, I think the Council should be charged with a little bit of direction-setting and leadership as well. [...] 1. The council was (by design?) a reactive force, rather than a pro-active force. [...]

[gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Dear devs, In bug #139412, I ask Paul de Vriese why he thinks python should die on --fast-math instead of just filtering it. Here's his answer : Denis, quite simple. -ffast-math is broken and short-sighted for a global flag. Filtering gives the shortsighted message that it works globally, while

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/10/06, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebuilds shouldn't die on anything according to the non-interactive portage philosophy. I don't know how official that philosophy is though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has nothing to do with being interactive or not. To me, an ebuild that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/9/06, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, if you're using daft CFLAGS you're on your own. Some ebuilds might filter them, some ebuilds might die and some ebuilds might let them through. Developers are under no obligation to add code to save users from their own stupidity,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/11/06, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their phrase, not mine. ;) I think the idea is you should be able to emerge -e world and walk away and not have anything interrupt the process thus requiring the user interact with the system. Well yes, but an ebuild that dies, whatever the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable Staleness (mostly toolchain)

2006-07-30 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/30/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another class of packages I wish to discuss (not remove quite yet, just talking ;) ) are older packages with stable markings. By Stable I mean debian stable, IE we stabled it in 2004 and no one has touched it since. Do these packages still work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-07-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 7/31/06, Joshua Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thirdly, I know one of the issues with one of the leaders of the project, is the fact that they are not a ebuild developer. I'd like to have them take the second quiz simply to prove that they have the knowledge to be trusted to review the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations

2006-08-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 8/1/06, Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # emerge --submit-info * sys-apps/portage generates emerge --info output and uploads it relatively tamper-proof to tickets.g.o, and * returns a ticket to the user, a unique number that he or she can communicate to developers and active users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 8/2/06, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The alternative to elitism is mediocrity. Would you like Gentoo to be a mediocre distribution? The real world isn't binary. So there's a whole range of alternatives between elitism and mediocrity. Denis. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paid support

2006-09-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 9/2/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be worth putting together a list of folks interested in doing this on the Gentoo website, under a Third-party Paid Support section. We already have a Support link on the top of www.g.o, it could be on that page. I was thinking about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: This information, by the way, has been blogged about thousands of times. There is a reason people write documentation. Contrary to blog posts, documentation is thought out, reviewed, maintained and corrected when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/5/4 Sérgio Almeida meph...@gmail.com: Please drop me a line here or at freenode if you have anything to add All I have to add is thanks a lot. I wished other SoC students would also introduce themselves and their project on their list. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Joe ! How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a beer or lunch sometime ? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Oops, that was supposed to be sent to him directly. Sorry about that. Denis. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Joe ! How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a beer or lunch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Because the way Gentoo works, any objection to a proposal, valid or not, whether or not it's already been addressed, has to be answered before a proposal gets anywhere. Thus, every time people post nonsense

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Except that at the last Council meeting, there were complaints that objections *had* been included and discussed in the GLEP, and claims that including such material made the GLEP less clear. As unfortunate

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/5/17 Piotr Jaroszyński pe...@gentoo.org: I have just updated GLEP 55 [1], hopefully making it a bit clearer. Thanks a lot Piotr. Just FYI, my order of preference of solutions is: 1. EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (obviously) 2. EAPI in the filename with one-time extension change 3. Easily

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Wernfried Haas a...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to counter-nominate you Aww... That must hurt. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński c...@gentoo.org: I nominate: [...] Calchan Thanks Dawid, and also Ferris. I accept. You can find my manifesto at http://dev.gentoo.org/~calchan/manifesto09/manifesto.html Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hi Doug, I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I have proposed something significantly different which simply consists in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more focused

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: This is not a debate nor is this thread meant to be a launching point for people to promote their own campaign for being on the council and I chide you for taking it as such. I was just trying to contribute to the debate,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug 244436

2009-06-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hi Jean-Marc, On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jean-Marc Beaunejm.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to be a pain but I just wonder if I filled this bug correctly because nothing happens: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244436 I'm not putting any pressure in any way, I just want to know if I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
[...] This list is for technical discussions only. Also, public mailing-lists are not for discussing your personal issues. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
probably belongs in -project. Not even in -project, it simply wasn't public mailing-list material. For those who haven't understood yet, the -dev and -project mailing lists are not for keeping us informed of your random thought of the day or lamenting about

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Thanks for the reminder, Doug. Make sure to also check everybody's manifesto here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council-200906-nominees.xml Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-26 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote: To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes disqualify the involved council member from functioning in that position. As Petteri noted

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifesto archive

2009-07-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/7/3 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org: Yes, that is another thing I was planning to do. The only reason I haven't done it yet, is that older manifestos were stored as txt files and this year the candidates mostly opted for html/xml files. I'll probably just go ahead,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #250853

2009-07-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hello Robson, On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Robson Roberto Souza Peixotorobsonpeix...@gmail.com wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250853 On bugzilla has the patch to solve the problem The people concerned by this already know about the bug and patch, there is no need to remind us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except that you seem to have more time available than slong to express

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: I contribute productively and usefully This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because you and others apparently do not get it. The fact that you're contributing or not does not give you or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2009-08-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Sebastian Pippingwebmas...@hartwork.org wrote: I would love to see the GLEP on CPE names in metadata.xml discussed, http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg35155.html Any guidance on what I need to do to make it happen is very welcome. Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for dev-tinyos/ncc; dev-tinyos/tos-make; dev-tinyos/tos-scripts; dev-tinyos/tos-uisp; dev-tinyos/tos-apps

2009-08-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Diego E. Pettenòflamee...@gmail.com wrote: # The rest are dependencies. The rest # of dev-tinyos might be added if it doesn't make sense # without these. Please last rite the whole thing if you feel like it. All my attempts at proxy-maintaining this have failed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE Team Meeting - October 2009

2009-10-21 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/10/21 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com: 1. Proposition to split desktop profile to: KDE, Gnome, (and maybe some others). How about making a desktop profile with everything common and being the parent of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc... sub-profiles with the specific stuff? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-block/gparted: gparted-0.4.3.ebuild

2009-11-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm seconds away from masking KDE 3.5.10, only fixing gentoo-x86 in a shape it's possible. So sorry everyone for not stopping on every single package and metadata.xml. Just getting this done. Quantity isn't a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing kde-base/arts from tree.

2009-11-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm tempted to say otherwise it will be hardmasked with kde-base/arts by the end of this week, but that might be too intimidating for some. And completely unreasonable. Some of us have a life. Denis, wondering why the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: This is a formal apology for springing that onto you. Thanks a lot. Not everybody can do such a thing as a public apology. I will nonetheless ask the council to vote on the following during next meeting: Ask Fabian to

[gentoo-dev] mtime preservation

2009-11-23 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'm going to try and sum up the situation of the thread started in [1]. Feel free to correct me or add to the summary in replies. There seems to be two main ideas. I have removed the authors' name in quotes below in order to make sure we talk about the ideas and not who proposed them. 1- All

[gentoo-dev] Re: mtime preservation

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
A quick note to tell you that I have tried to look for examples of breakage due to how mtime preservation is currently implemented in portage. Unfortunately I didn't find anything, maybe because I'm not knowledgeable enough or because I can't afford to spend any more time on this. If any of you

[gentoo-dev] Next council meeting on 7 Dec 2009 at 1900UTC

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
The next council meeting will be on 7 Dec 2009 at 1900UTC. If you want us to discuss things please let us know in reply to this email. What is already known is we'll talk about mtime preservation and prefix. You can find threads about those at:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Things seem to be progressing nicely on this front. We have answers to the questions people had and they look satisfactory to me. One thing that I think would be valuable is a document that explains the average dev how to make his/her ebuilds prefix compliant with links to more details when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It looks like this question is still unanswered: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: How are dynamically linked set*id programs going to work? Denis.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a thread at gentoo-dev ML: agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item: Adding real multilib features from current multilib-portage to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2010-01-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2010/1/2 Pacho Ramos pa...@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es: [...] I failed to see if, finally, an approval from the council is needed for merging [multilib] to portage-2.2 or not The only approval that's required to merge anything to an official portage branch is Zac's (zmedico). He may have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2010-01-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Brian, On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: The proposal is pretty simple; if code modifies the vdb in any fashion, it needs to update the mtime on a file named '.modification_time' in the root of the vdb. For example- 1) ${PACKAGE_MANAGER} fires ups,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2010/1/12 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Dont be joking, [...] Mmmh? Take a deep breath, a long walk, a large beer, or whatever works. Because you need it. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2010-01-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
(I'm resending this email as the original apparently did not make it to the list, although Thomas probably received it) Hi Thomas, I'm replying to the original thread below to allow those who have missed it to have the full context. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Thomas Sachau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2010-02-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically the 3rd Thursday at 1800 UTC / 2000 CET / 1400 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Uh... no. The meeting is actually next Monday

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP58 - MetaManifest

2010-02-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
You'll find below an email from solar to Robin about MetaManifest. I'm adding it to this thread (with solar's authorization) as it seems pertinent. Denis. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Ned Ludd so...@gentoo.org wrote: Robin, I recall you wanted me to mail you what we talked about last nite

Re: [gentoo-dev] sudo vs su

2010-02-28 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: I am starting this thread because I don't understand why people are using sudo and su together.  They are completely separate utilities that do the same thing.  AFAIK, it should be either sudo -i or su -, but not sudo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Robert Bradbury robert.bradb...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear that the pending (0321) mask of Qt3 will break sci-misc/qcad, sci-chemistry/xdrawchem and x11-misc/glunarclock. I'm not concerned but I feel sympathy for those who use these packages and many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess maturity.  I think that maturity is far more important than technical skill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: What I was getting at is trying to identify what aspects of the whole recruitment process added the most value and which added the least, and adjusting accordingly.  I think that assessing attitude and maturity, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: I see no reason whatsoever to keep it open. How about this one: preventing users from filing dupes. If we start doing that, we'll end up with tons of extra bugs on our hands. What's the big deal? You know you'll be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: I disagree. Resolved LATER is useful to some maintainers that want to fix that bug, but don't have time or don't find the issue to be a priority at the moment. By marking it LATER they're acknowledging the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jon Portnoy av...@eris.oppresses.us wrote: Which is all well and good -- the you wrote some ebuilds so here's your commit privs and @gentoo.org approach to recruitment worked great when Gentoo had a few dozen developers. Today QA is a bit more important, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Zachary nathanzach...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] but it would be much more enlightening to me to work on creating ebuilds while working one-on-one with a mentor. The whole purpose of the training period between the ebuild quiz and the end quiz (see [1]) is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: But while I don't do IRC, from various hints I've seen here, that hasn't necessarily been the case there.  I'm not making a judgement of whether that's good or bad and am only going on various asides I've seen here because as I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal == [...] Can council please decide to honor the wish from developers to implement this? The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single individual project. And almost 100% of the time this needs to run through a GLEP,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Sure, it is the best way to make big changes Why then use anything else than the best tool when you can use the best tool? I didn't say that he should work on a GLEP though, but that he should feel free to do so, which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Ben, Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative and is trying to help. The only way of knowing if his idea is good is to discuss it and later try it if people are interested. You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which is good) but not constructively. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: How about: You have lately been increasingly critical but not constructively at no point have you offered your contribution You haven't offered to help you haven't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I mean things like immature political rantings are not likely to evoke the wanted response and it didn't happen here either. I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is part of fixing them.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello folks, Hi Markos. A small detail first. You shouldn't cross post as it makes things confusing and often results in threads splitting. I have no problem with that because my email client merges threads but it's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango) is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to nominate betelgeuse, calchan, and ssuominen (no way you're getting out of here that easy). Thanks a lot for your confidence but I'll pass. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I was more or less told to fuck off if I don't like the tone. Please watch your language, this is a public mailing-list. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-cluster/csync2: ChangeLog csync2-1.34.ebuild

2007-09-21 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 9/20/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2007 19:54:16 Donnie Berkholz wrote: econf has default econf failed die message. The following would be sufficient: econf \ --localstatedir=/var \ --sysconfdir=/etc/csync2 Is that so ... when did

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-print/hpijs

2007-09-23 Thread Denis Dupeyron
# Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Sep 2007) # Masked for removal in 30 days as per bug #176962. net-print/hpijs Upstream decided to kill hpijs and replace it with hplip quite a good while ago. The replacement is much better and much more usable. So, net-print/hpijs has been masked

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Timo Gurr (tgurr)

2007-09-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to introduce Timo Gurr (tgurr) who will join us as a new developer. He will work primarily on KDE and printing. Timo lives in Neckarsulm, Germany, and works as an IT technician in a local city administration near his home. He finds his job very interesting and loves it, and even

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Mike Pagano (mpagano)

2007-10-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to introduce Mike Pagano (mpagano) who has been wrangling kernel bugs for some time already, and will now do so as a full Gentoo developer. Mike lives in his native New Jersey with his wife and a large cat. He currently works for a Pharmacy Benefits Management company where he

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in games-kids/gcompris: ChangeLog gcompris-8.4.ebuild

2007-10-08 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 10/8/07, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cp /usr/share/gettext/config.rpath . Shouldn't this respect ROOT != / ? I can see how that would be a bit of an unusual use case for games, though. While we're on that topic : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/gcompris-8.4 $ ./configure --help

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

2007-10-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 10/10/07, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's OK to start using package.use now considering that package.use has been supported since portage-2.1.2 and that's been stable since February. There are already a couple of packages using it in the tree now. Is it a good idea for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

2007-10-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 10/10/07, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eventually I'd like to add an option that behaves similar to --resume but also recalculates dependencies. Why not make that the default ? That would be safer IMO. Plus, once we have this, it looks to me that nobody has to wait for EAPI=1 in

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Dawid Węgliński (cla)

2007-10-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's with an unusual delay [1] but with the usual pleasure that I'm re-introducing Dawid Węgliński who goes among us under the much-easier-to-type nickname of cla. If it's a re-introduction it's not because the second time is always better, but because he has already been active as staff for some

[gentoo-dev] New staff : Marion Agé (titefleur)

2007-10-27 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my unusual pleasure to introduce Marion Agé who will go among us under the nickname of titefleur, which can be literally translated into lil' flower. Aint that charming ? Marion will be the new translator follow-up for French. Her experience is mainly in web development. her knowledge

[gentoo-dev] New staff : Marion Agé (titefleur)

2007-10-27 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my unusual pleasure to introduce Marion Agé who will go among us under the nickname of titefleur, which can be literally translated into lil' flower. Aint that charming ? Marion will be the new translator follow-up for French. Her experience is mainly in web development, with knowledge of

[gentoo-dev] New staff : Elias Pipping (pipping)

2007-10-27 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to introduce Elias Piping (pipping) who is joining us as staff. He will do general development and bug solving for the Gentoo/alt project. Elias is familiar with Tcl, Ruby, Python, Perl, Java, sed, awk and bash. He admits having above average knowledge of regular expressions, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-print/cups: ChangeLog cups-1.3.4-r1.ebuild cups-1.3.4.ebuild

2007-11-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Nov 9, 2007 11:28 AM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like it's a silly hack [...] Which is rather perverse Whoever it was, whatever it was, nobody deserves to have his/her work to be qualified this way. All of us (including you) would benefit of a more neutral language.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-print/cups: ChangeLog cups-1.3.4-r1.ebuild cups-1.3.4.ebuild

2007-11-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Nov 10, 2007 2:58 PM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo is a worldwide project, so i guess many of the contributors are not native speakers. See the gentoo-devs all over the world [1] as an example. Okay english is the common language here, but is it that difficult to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-print/hpijs

2007-11-18 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sep 23, 2007 12:48 PM, Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] (23 Sep 2007) # Masked for removal in 30 days as per bug #176962. net-print/hpijs Upstream decided to kill hpijs and replace it with hplip quite a good while ago. The replacement is much

Re: [gentoo-dev] Good-bye

2007-11-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Seemant, On Nov 24, 2007 6:39 PM, Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The time has finally come for me to resign from Gentoo. I've been meaning to do it for many months now, but the logistics took a little bit of time. Effective Monday, Nov. 26, I will no longer consider myself an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-wireless/hostapd: ChangeLog hostapd-0.4.9.ebuild hostapd-0.6.1.ebuild hostapd-0.6.0.ebuild

2007-12-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 11, 2007 6:03 AM, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 10 December 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: { ... echo CONFIG_EAP_SAKE=y ... } ${CONFIG} cat -EOF ${CONFIG} ... CONFIG_EAP_SAKE=y ... EOF -mike Mike,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 20, 2007 1:38 AM, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some other ideas for how to express EAPI. What if we: [..] Stuck ranges into metadata.xml for which EAPIs applied? This is the easiest and most reasonable solution I've heard so far. Denis. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 20, 2007 12:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing there're lots of people moaning because they think they understand filenames and can therefore comment. Unfortunately, most of those people don't understand the metadata generation process, and therefore can't

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Richard Freeman (rich0)

2007-12-23 Thread Denis Dupeyron
After a long and bumpy ride, concluded by a very BOFH-esque LDAP replication failure, we're on it (thanks Robin, by the way), it's my pleasure to announce that Richard Freeman (rich0) is a new Gentoo developer. Richard has been an amd64 AT for some time already, and so will join the amd64 team.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2007-12-26 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 25, 2007 7:19 PM, Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - media-gfx/f-spot I'll adopt this one if nobody wants it. Denis. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Running a script to remove useless deps like virtual/libc from ebuilds

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 30, 2007 6:50 PM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a script coming up that can remove virtual/libc dependencies from ebuilds automatically but can this be done safely for all ebuilds are are there ebuilds in system that really need this dep for stage building etc? FWIW:

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I like the overall idea. I will comment the first proposed alternative as this is the one that makes the most sense in my opinion. Having one global use.xml where the default definitions are, and then using metadata.xml for each package to override the USE flag definition. With 's/default

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Dec 31, 2007 3:30 PM, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What benefit does use.xml have over use.desc? [...] No need to change the format of use.desc Anything that would enable us to document with more than a few words, which is what we're practically limited to with the current format of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: some sci-mathematics packages

2008-01-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Jan 4, 2008 1:30 PM, Sébastien Fabbro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sci-mathematics/ksimus-{boolean,datarecorder,floatingpoint}: unmaintained upstream since 2003, see bug #157577 Replacements: unknown Scilab's Scicos ? Not a direct replacement, but there are some similarities. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Jan 9, 2008 1:12 PM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recruiters About the stuff I'm involved: Are we fine? If Calchan agrees, we are fine. I'm taking care of recruits as fast as I can. I figure any time I spend for the recruiters project is worth a lot more than the same time

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