Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/updates: 4Q-2007

2007-11-06 Thread Doug Klima
Mark Loeser wrote: Hanno Boeck (hanno) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: hanno 07/11/06 01:01:35 Modified: 4Q-2007 Log: move beryl packages to their corresponding compiz fusion packages Revision ChangesPath 1.10 profiles/updates/4Q-2007 file :

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] packages2 testing

2007-11-09 Thread Doug Klima
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 07:52:49PM +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Isn't there supposed to be a search box too? Does anybody actually read the FAQ? - Short packages2 TODO list - Search: match a given string against: a substring in packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Hey all, I've been wanting a GUI for eselect lately, so tonight I hacked up the start of one called eselect_zenity [1]. It only works for the most trivial modules so far -- it has to parse eselect output, so special parsers need to be written for each type.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Ullmann wrote: Doug Klima schrieb: While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going to be the way forward for Gentoo to use

Re: Reminder: Set your Reply-To (was Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!)

2007-11-15 Thread Doug Klima
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 13:22 -0700, Joe Peterson wrote: (Sorry for the previous reply to announce..) Let me take this opportunity to remind people to set a reply-to when sending anything to gentoo-dev-announce so people replying will reply to the proper

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-27 Thread Doug Klima
that documentation should be provided before anything is committed. I'd also like to note that documentation was provided with the USE flag descriptions as well as an example metadata.xml with all the new features being used was provided. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] X drivers up for grabs

2007-12-05 Thread Doug Klima
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 07:20 Tue 04 Dec , Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: On Tuesday 04 of December 2007 02:29:20 Donnie Berkholz wrote: evdev input driver I can take it unless someone else wants it more :) It's yours. I'll start reassigning bugs over the next

Re: [gentoo-dev] X drivers up for grabs

2007-12-06 Thread Doug Klima
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: (Nelson impression...) haha, peper! Start checkin out Ubuntu... compnerd says they apply 120 patches to this driver.. Also, start fixing the issues it has with HAL 0.5.10 since that's going to hit the tree for real shortly. If you need a version to test against,

[gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
Let's address the issue now, rather then having a broken tree 3 months from now that will require 500 commits to fix. Cardoe I'll just send this to the ML now. discuss. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
Thomas Anderson wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:21:31 Markus Ullmann wrote: Doug Klima schrieb: Cardoe zmedico: what if I have EAPI=2 above the inherit but an eclass has EAPI=1 if an eclass sets EAPI, then the ebuild shouldn't... make it two eclasses if needed or plain bump them

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
Marius Mauch wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:28 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. I'm starting a new thread. The only sane solution I can think of is that eclasses shouldn't be allowed to change EAPI, but use

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Petteri Räty wrote: Doug Klima kirjoitti: Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. I'm starting a new thread. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/52981/match=eapi I think it was answered. Regards, Petteri And I brough up valid

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:28 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: discuss. * EAPI may only be set before the 'inherit' in an ebuild. * Eclasses may not set EAPI. * Eclasses may not assume a particular EAPI. * If an eclass needs to work with multiple

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:02 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I brough up valid reasons with zmedico why putting it before the inherit line was flawed currently since it could lead to some seriously unexpected behavior. It's only unexpected

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use the Log

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi everyone, this is a reminder especially for architecture people: Please use the ChangeLog and really log everything you did. Don't do a change and forget to document it. Oh and please don't forget to remove your arches from the cc field if there is a bug.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gnupg-2 stable plans

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 14:26 +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On 12/12/07, Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alon Bar-Lev wrote: As I told you before, I wont slot these two. Could you provide a link to reasons that lead you to this

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Doug Klima
Luca Barbato wrote: Rémi Cardona wrote: I'll speak up then :) What I _really_ would like to see ASAP : 1) Dropping digest-* files for real (ie, not even having them on the master rsync server and CVS) Slated for after 2007.1 is released. 2) Slotted deps (I had the feeling we

[gentoo-dev] Asterisk 1.4 in Portage

2007-12-26 Thread Doug Klima
do I want any). So I'd like if someone out there that used/had zaptel hardware would pick up the ebuild. If you're interested, drop me a line. I'll send you over a 1.4.x ebuild. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Roy Marples wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On 12/25/07, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Luca Barbato wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:10:13 +0100 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that seems a fine definition of what an eapi is. Everybody agrees on it? Nope. EAPI (from my POV) defines the API that a package manager has to export to an

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Doug Klima
use.local.desc gives us is a fast way to list packages using some flags, but that's unreliable at best. If needed such a list could be autogenerated. Marius -- Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2008-01-02 Thread Doug Klima
Mark Loeser wrote: Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: One of the GLEP's primary goals is to provide a global use flag definition and over-ride it with a local definition. How does putting all flags in use.desc and over-riding local flags in use.local.desc not accomplish this?

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Houston we have a problem

2008-01-08 Thread Doug Klima
Alec Warner wrote: On 1/8/08, William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To keep it short and sweet. Our current structure is FUBARed. Foundation? Trustees? Election? Nominees? Ball dropped, shall we pick it up and resume a game? Gentoo does not exist legally. NPO filings in New

Re: [gentoo-dev] extend profiles.desc to include experimental profiles

2008-01-11 Thread Doug Klima
. This sounds very reasonable and logical. And hopefully if the tools in question are coded properly, it should be compatible with older versions until users upgrade. Good stuff Mike. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Doug Klima
Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of system and provides: - installkernel - run-parts - tempfile -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/libselinux: ChangeLog libselinux-1.34.14.ebuild

2008-01-29 Thread Doug Klima
() { python_version python_mod_cleanup ${ROOT}usr/lib/python${PYVER}/site-packages } Per python.eclass, prefixing ${ROOT} to python_mod_cleanup is incorrect. Donnie and I were going to look into making stuff like this a bit more consistent but haven't had a chance. -- Doug Klima

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing quotes in eclasses

2008-02-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Meier wrote: Hi There are several eclasses missing quotes: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maekke/eclass-quoting.txt This is the same check as repoman does, so there might be more quotes needed or false-positives. Markus Might want to cull that list of deprecated eclasses. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing quotes in eclasses

2008-02-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Meier wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:42:32 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Meier wrote: Hi There are several eclasses missing quotes: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maekke/eclass-quoting.txt Might want to cull that list of deprecated eclasses

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
Howdy all, We need to agree upon some syntax which we can mark an eclass as deprecated and potentially point to a replacement or multiple replacements. Discuss. -- Doug -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
. Since I have a feeling my changes or suggestions won't jive with the kde herd, I'll offer mine up as svn.eclass -- Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Doug Klima schrieb: 2) ESVN_OFFLINE which disables svn up. Isn't this a bit of a hack? The point is for it to run svn up. Now I've added support in a local refactor that I had started today that if the working copy's revision matches the requested revision, that no svn

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Howdy all, We need to agree upon some syntax which we can mark an eclass as deprecated and potentially point to a replacement or multiple replacements. Discuss. Ok. I guess no one else has any feelings about this. Potentially doing something like: DEPRECIATED

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:43:56 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I guess no one else has any feelings about this. Potentially doing something like: DEPRECIATED=$DEPRECATED $ECLASS Deprecated != depreciated. You caught my typo. You clearly still

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
wrong if workarounds aren't added to everything using the code? I'd mutter something about EAPIs here, but really if people are having difficulty understanding the necessity of the original commit, I suspect it's a lost cause... 6 -- Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:15:18 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many people are running a Portage version released after January 4? Eventually, all of them. And until then, how many users are going to get things going weirdly wrong if workarounds aren't added

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:44:43 -0500 Doug Klima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A better statement on your part would have been We need to ensure compatibility for the greatest amount of users and requiring users to have a version of Portage released after January 4th when

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the changes are fairly extensive we decided

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the changes are fairly

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-20 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-20 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Ed W wrote: Hi baselayout-2 was renamed to openrc when Roy left Gentoo as an official dev. Answering my own question (for the record). I found some explanation here: http://lycos.dropcode.net/gregarius/author.php?author=Roy_Marples__uberlord_ Does Roy hang out here? Roy: Is this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Ed W wrote: Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Check out OpenRC it is baselayout successor and works great! Funnily enough I came across this earlier today for different reasons. However, I hadn't realised that it was a full baselayout competitor? baselayout-2 was renamed to openrc when Roy left

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Stefan Hellermann wrote: Roy Marples schrieb: Two small things happened here: After Login I the shell looks like: -bash-3.2# when I start then bash again manually it looks nice, the environment is not setup correctly the first time. Doesn't sound like an OpenRC issue as such as bash

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
also the issue of not knowing for sure just what's going to still be around in terms of config files and the like, since unmerging baselayout isn't exactly an everyday thing. FWIW, I took the jump anyway, and the etc-update seemed to go reasonably well, but I've not rebooted yet... -- Doug