[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-03 Thread Duncan
, for those that can effectively handle it, and for those that can't, well, it's a volunteer situation, and as such, a natural solution tends to appear. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-05 Thread Duncan
on the regulation a bit and give the folks actually down there getting their hands dirty some room to work, at least if we aren't willing (or able) to get in there with them. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
community. What word to use in place of distribution, when one wants to include the BSDs and other non-distributions as well, other than Linux/BSD[/*ix]][/OSX], or simply *ix... *IS* there such a term? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
itself. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:23:52 +0100: On Friday 06 January 2006 09:37, Duncan wrote: Well, for that matter, distribution is considered at least by my *BSD friends, to be a peculiarly Linux term.  From their perspective, Linux

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (news) Round Seven

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
you might have missed it. I might have myself, had I not commented on -a functionality myself earlier, and was therefore watching for discussion of that aspect in particular. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
... looks like the documentation list, which I've been meaning to join, is on gmane. Subscribing while I'm thinking about it... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Split definitions for an idiom

2006-01-07 Thread Duncan
Drake Wyrm posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 07 Jan 2006 01:59:23 -0800: http://qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=693 Apropos indeed. Thanks! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your

[gentoo-dev] Re: Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Duncan
, there's no other person who could steer a complicated and therefore implementation controversial GLEP such as that thru the process better than he. In all aspects he has done a better job than I would have thought possible, literally, had I not seen him doing it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-11 Thread Duncan
with it. The rest seems reasonable enough. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-12 Thread Duncan
some sort of guide is SURE to prove beneficial. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

[gentoo-dev] Re: Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Duncan
be quite useful here on my dual Opteron. Thanks! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Re: Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-13 Thread Duncan
of portage. There's one point in the kmail/kdepim (split/monolithic) build where with USE=kdeenablefinal on AMD64, a single process takes 700 meg, based on my results. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Duncan
unconfortable with it just being outright dismissed like that. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22

[gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicate licences

2006-01-23 Thread Duncan
. Just because it's been done that way for some time doesn't mean it's legally correct, and that's what's worrying to some posters (myself included, altho I'm not a Gentoo dev). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Duncan
in advance, it's a good thing, not a bad thing, and as Spyderous says, it's what ~arch users are signing up for by going ~arch in the first place. If it breaks a few that didn't understand that, well, they'll know it now! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Duncan
at that time. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-27 Thread Duncan
emerge -NuD world. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-27 Thread Duncan
Stephen Bennett posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:31:32 +: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:08:40 -0700 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither here nor there, but for some reason, I prefer emerge -NuD world. =8^) Especially since you just said yourself

[gentoo-dev] Re: IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Duncan
. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: last thoughts for xml/xml2 unification

2006-02-08 Thread Duncan
/invalid bug spam. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan
hilighted it in the quote as I replied). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Request for Comment

2006-02-10 Thread Duncan
addressed the known issues as much as possible, and possibly to be adopted. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 47: Creating 'safe' environment variables

2006-02-11 Thread Duncan
would seem much more workable than the 4-tuple GLEP, so good idea! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22

[gentoo-dev] Re: Manifest2 decision delayed

2006-02-11 Thread Duncan
Alin Nastac posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:38:05 +0200: When you have thousands of small files (1-4 blocks), the space saved by removing all unnecessary whitespaces is minimal at best. Of course, that depends on the filesystemm used... . -- Duncan - List

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Request for Comment

2006-02-11 Thread Duncan
John Mylchreest posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:02:58 +: Duncan, you make some valid points but for the sake of ease for the rest of us, could you please try condense the mails down from several pages? :) I've been proud of myself, even managing a couple

[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla etiquette suggestions

2006-02-13 Thread Duncan
, that sounds like possible AT/HT material, maybe ultimately leading to a new dev, to me.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Bugzilla etiquette suggestions

2006-02-13 Thread Duncan
Daniel Drake posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:11:51 +: Duncan wrote: I'd /not/ really wish to encourage version bump requests overnight. That's jumping the gun, and indeed, could encourage first post like behavior. That is precisely what was being

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Bugzilla etiquette suggestions

2006-02-14 Thread Duncan
Simon Stelling posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:39:06 +0100: Duncan wrote: Consider this: INVALID is strong enough, under the wrong circumstances, that it /could/ set an emotionally unstable user off, causing them to commit suicide or something. Are you

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Bugzilla etiquette suggestions

2006-02-14 Thread Duncan
the thread, when it's always possible to ignore my essay and the resulting subthread, if desired, and continue posting away on the more useful subthreads, as if I'd never posted in the first place. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: KDE, metapackages, and monolithic packages

2006-02-26 Thread Duncan
, and the arch is slow as it is so we're talking a week build-time instead of 3-4 days, but they are being worked on, and if all goes well... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: KDE, metapackages, and monolithic packages

2006-02-28 Thread Duncan
discussion to either user or desktop. I don't look at user, but I'm a regular over in desktop, where KDE questions are happily answered, as it's certainly part of desktop. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

2006-03-01 Thread Duncan
and integrity of opinion and developer skills. It's certainly a loss for Gentoo, and as Gentoo is now a part of me, a loss I'll feel personally, as well, but unfortunately, those times do come. As with Donnie and the others, only user to dev, I wish you well. May our paths meet again! -- Duncan

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-04 Thread Duncan
the non-trivial merge-time processing case.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-04 Thread Duncan
be installed to them. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: firefox-1.5.x still in ~arch

2006-03-19 Thread Duncan
above is getting close to 30 days in ~arch now, tho I don't know its bug status. I often check the portage tree changelogs and Gentoo bugzilla site status of particular packages that I'm interested in. I'm glad the info is available, as it has proven useful quite often. -- Duncan - List replies

[gentoo-dev] Re: package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Duncan
, for that very reason -- no simple prefixtabtab method for listing all the Mandrake system tools. Gentoo has it right with the e* precedent. I believe we should continue to follow it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: package naming

2006-03-21 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:20:35 -0500: On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:37 -0700, Duncan wrote: Agreed if keeping the old name with a gentoo prefix/suffix is chosen. However, nearly all Gentoo system tools are ewhatever (not only portage

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making the developer community more open

2006-03-22 Thread Duncan
in general gains enough favor to consider a glep or the like. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

[gentoo-dev] Re: Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Duncan
simply omitted and a reference to that local copy, not the global instance, assumed, when mentioning putting it in make.conf? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http

[gentoo-dev] Re: Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Duncan
voting make the interest any more evident than all those CCs, and the CCs actually continue to be useful after the vote has been registered, as well. Bug voting? I'd argue we already have bug voting! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Duncan
pretty much of it's innerwork. PS:There's an article in gentoo-wiki.com with a list of overlays. Thanks. That's now double-underlined on my TODO list. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master

[gentoo-dev] Re: overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Duncan
overlay is using, and not worry about the others. Advanced users and devs able to deal with the potential conflicts of multiple overlays shouldn't have difficulty managing multiple version control systems, and they'll be the only ones that have to worry about it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2.6.16 and packages in conflict

2006-04-03 Thread Duncan
alone wasn't enough. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-04-04 Thread Duncan
-stable was /that/ far behind! Point well made! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-04-04 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:16:07 -0700: Duncan wrote: The Gentoo-desktop list is lower volume and generally where I ask (developer level) questions about anything so related, KDE, GNOME, burning CD/DVDs, sometimes sound issues, etc

[gentoo-dev] Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-04-04 Thread Duncan
continues to work well enough to continue to use. Just don't go filing bugs on anything that breaks until the whole set is updated. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-04-04 Thread Duncan
for doesn't affect amd64, yet unfortunately, the calls aren't conditioned on arch as they would be in a perfect world with access to full testing on all archs right away. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Renewed security risk uhm Dev

2006-04-04 Thread Duncan
has passed a...! Gave me pause for a moment, there! Welcome! (From a non-dev, just enthused there's someone else to be developing packages for me to play with... and that you have /not/ passed away, as I first read! =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree

[gentoo-dev] Reminder: DevAway aka Unavailable Devs listing

2006-04-05 Thread Duncan
, but only if you make it so! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Duncan
responsible for it will take the pressure off the regular GWN editors, and should encourage the necessary research and pre-feature dev contact, to ensure things go smoothly and there's not a repeat of that earlier unpleasant incident. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-07 Thread Duncan
it. Or am I mistaken? Something like a metapackage that deps on gentoo-xcursor and similar packages, maybe? That would unify installation/merging. Include an emerge --config script that in turn unifies the configuration? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-12 Thread Duncan
. Again, maybe I just missed the symbolism somewhere, but that's my opinion. Put a caption on him, make him link to something, and it'll look better. Maybe make him the documentation and help section icon? Or the icon for contact information (Gentoo developer listing, etc)? Something. -- Duncan

[gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Duncan
^) The first time I noticed it, I wondered what kind of magic the ebuild was doing. Then I saw it on a couple others, and then happened across it while reviewing the profile. It works! =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
the next rc. Good work both here and upstream! Is the proposed schedule on the wiki at desktop.org still valid? A couple more RCs, and release in about a month if all goes well? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
Mart Raudsepp posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:23:12 +0300: on xorg.fd.org wiki. Doh... I always call it desktop.org, it's /free/desktop.org! One would think with a sig such as mine I'd remember that! Thanks! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:43:43 -0700: Duncan wrote: Is it worth posting bugs on these yet? Gentoo or upstream? Any tracker bug to point me at? (I have the binpkgs so can remerge them for additional testing with little trouble

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Duncan
to a requirement for a unanimous decision. Reason in the middle ground? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:30:41 -0700: The idea in either case is to minimize the possibility of something occurring without enough of a majority opinion to make the decision look arbitrary or subject to immediate reversal upon the whims

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Duncan
, anyway. For myself, I became aware of a word interpretation inconsistency I wasn't aware of, thus gaining insight into myself. Maybe it's me that's out of sync. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Duncan
/or/ removing?) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Purpose of USE=doc

2006-04-26 Thread Duncan
? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control

2006-04-26 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:27:38 -0400: I'm sorry, but do your friends call you Duncan? I'll leave it at that. Who, me? looks around No, safe to say, /not/ me. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program

[gentoo-dev] Re: Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control

2006-04-27 Thread Duncan
from the command line. Also consider the effect of the -D and -N flags, as depending on your exact needs, --newuse and --deep may or may not be suitable. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master

[gentoo-dev] Re: coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Duncan
can't simply take it for granted any longer. =8^P -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-04 Thread Duncan
so, why are they then blaming Gentoo for their own choice? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Duncan
. I doubt you'll find much support for significant change among Gentoo devs /or/ users, because after all, if they didn't like it, they'd not have chosen Gentoo in the first place, as that's one of the defining characteristics that makes Gentoo what it is. -- Duncan - List replies preferred

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Duncan
to arch (stable) in package.keywords too. Again, Gentoo is very flexible in that regard -- some might say insanely flexible, but it works, if people would only read the docs and follow them as appropriate. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Duncan
and the events from portage-devel, a reasonably safe prediction should be that they'll both be stable by the end of the (northern hemisphere) summer, with a target of mid-summer. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Duncan
, no more need be said, as it's simply uncontemplatable. Take those assumptions away, and there's simply nothing left to build upon or debug with. You might as well be trying to debug random bits -- the supporting logic and assumptions are that far gone. -- Duncan - List replies preferred

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disenchantment

2006-05-08 Thread Duncan
exist is a sign of a healthy and vital free/libra and open source software community, not a sign of a stagnating one! Make it the best you can, because those of us still with Gentoo at the moment will certainly be doing our best to make Gentoo the best we can. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred

[gentoo-dev] Re: Heritage

2006-05-08 Thread Duncan
is confused! Or something similar. If there's such a caption now, I missed it too. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Duncan
comes up, I don't believe we've been given /exclusive/ use of Znurt, so we /should/ be aware that drobbins may at some time find another use for him, even if we now have permission to continue using him. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-12 Thread Duncan
for 7.0 and 7.1. Hopefully, by 7.2, the solution will be included upstream. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-14 Thread Duncan
on what's easiest to track. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: New staffer: Steve Dibbs

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
users out here, and I'm just one of them. Glad it isn't /all/ SCO out there! g (I'm in AZ, just as out there I suppose, and not far from you.) Welcome, tho I'm not a dev/staffer myself. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you

[gentoo-dev] Re: Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
, and ebuilds that require features only in paludis are masked as far as portage is concerned, then that checkbox can be checked off. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman

[gentoo-dev] Re: Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
a profile.bashrc that dies unless something like I_WANT_TO_BREAK_MY_SYSTEM=1 is set). ... And the proposal included a deprecated file. By that definition, therefore, the profile would be unsupported, and the point you were making disappears. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs

[gentoo-dev] Re: Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
be a reasonable requirement for support. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
seems worthy of consideration, as others have pointed out, quite independent of what other choices are eventually offered. pkgcore or something else could find it equally helpful, and it won't hurt to build in that flexibility now. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Duncan
Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 17 May 2006 17:56:22 +0100: On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:28:21 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herein lies the crux of the problem, IMO. Regardless of all the other arguments made, I simply cannot

[gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Duncan
/ there be debate. Please reconsider at least on the timing. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-03 Thread Duncan
disruption to the tree if someone stepped up before masking. Either way, good idea; a betterment of Gentoo, I agree. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect-compiler updates and unmasking

2006-06-03 Thread Duncan
if unmasking this broke them. =8^( -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-13 Thread Duncan
, I don't have any good suggestions, but I'm sure others can come up with some. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Duncan
it for one or more single packages -- tho I expect I'll be examining each individual ebuild as I merge and upgrade it if I do -- the security issues are real to me too, and I'm not quite /that/ insane. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Duncan
underneath you isn't all that pleasant, so this is a needed change. The only problem was that it wasn't properly documented, but that has been taken care of now as well. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-15 Thread Duncan
to comprehend use.defaults. light dawns Ooohhh, gotcha now!! You are right, that /is/ a bit ambiguous. Obviously, neither I nor the author caught that. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-16 Thread Duncan
this point to step in and ask for the clarification myself, since I honestly don't see the difference in the two statements you say are so different, myself.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master

[gentoo-dev] Re: variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-17 Thread Duncan
or some such (yes I know that's crazy, but...)? I'd agree with the ditto, not with the all three will work fine. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-17 Thread Duncan
Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:09:45 +0200: It makes no difference in assignments, so all of them will do. Noted that based on the other replies after posting. Thanks, tho. I didn't know that until reading the thread. -- Duncan

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Duncan
, thinking if I was lucky a freedomware config might be one of the choices, and this answers that to my satisfaction. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes to the way Java packages are built

2006-06-19 Thread Duncan
the sig). Some here don't care. That's fine -- for them. It's a bit bigger than that for me, but they don't ask me to run what is to me slaveryware, and I won't ask them to give up what is to them convenienceware. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-21 Thread Duncan
upgrade on a major desktop environment would be -- that is, while some problems should be expected (and well published in GWN and the like before stabilization), they should be resolvable, and temporary. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master

[gentoo-dev] Re: Scientific Gentoo reorg: the proposal

2006-06-26 Thread Duncan
clear. Geology? Geometry? A four-letter geol/geom/whatever would clear that up. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Duncan
of many, under a number of different licenses, as is the case with any distribution or LiveCD Linux, even a small one. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-30 Thread Duncan
with Gentoo than in the case of a binary-based upstream distribution, where tracking separate source packages would be required. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman

[gentoo-dev] Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-30 Thread Duncan
it) sources on-mirror or on an archive repository setup for the purpose could be debated, tho I'd suggest the archive repository, so the mirrors don't have to carry it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-01 Thread Duncan
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 01 Jul 2006 11:14:37 +0200: On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:53:42 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine

[gentoo-dev] Re: Future developer

2006-07-01 Thread Duncan
and are publishing his source code on the /web/? =8^0 Then I realize it's the source for the /page/, click the show images button, and all is well, despite my brief bout of technical vertigo. =8^) Anyway, congrats! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord

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