Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time

2006-01-03 Thread Jakub Moc
by default, that's not something that should be considered until GLEP 42 or an equivalent solution gets implemented. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Jakub Moc
. NOT until use-based deps are in place, plzktnxbye!!! Don't break the damned realplayer thing again. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Jakub Moc
=revdepfield0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=revdepfield0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=revdep Eh??? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jakub Moc
in another mail, maintaining lists of honored LINGUAS in each ebuild it just huge maintenance overhead with no gain... -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] multislot mysql

2006-02-03 Thread Jakub Moc
for other ebuilds to depend on a specific slotted mysql version, e.g. if something doesn't work with 5.x but works just fine with 4.1. That won't be possible once multislot use flag is required for slotted install. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-db/dybase

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
. The same is true for python and ruby APIs. Will be package.masked today and removed from portage in two weeks unless someone has a very good reason to keep it and want to rewrite it from scratch. See Bug 60472. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
10.2.2006, 14:56:58, Olivier Crete wrote: On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from portage. Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? Not that I would know... Anyway, nls can be fixed by using

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-10 Thread Jakub Moc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 10.2.2006, 20:03:45, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Olivier Crete wrote: Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ? There's a bug for LAT -- http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86854 -- but the current assignee apparently doesn't want

[gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag deprecation = bashing my head against the wall

2006-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
/show_bug.cgi?id=106560 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpnufdngyRGw.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
/show_bug.cgi?id=122993 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpCqeLfgkccp.pgp Description

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
16.2.2006, 22:05:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:51:40 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Unless someone picks this up, it should be package.masked and | removed from portage. There are tons of better and working | alternatives. Uh, it's not a last rites unless

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
16.2.2006, 22:47:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:32:13 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | BTW, x11-misc/bbapm is about one month | overdue (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20201) It's not overdue. It hasn't had a proper last rites email sent out yet

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
16.2.2006, 23:08:51, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:55:33 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 16.2.2006, 22:47:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:32:13 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | | BTW, x11-misc/bbapm is about one month | | overdue

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
16.2.2006, 23:58:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:45:45 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | OMG, stop this crap and don't waste our time. You specifically asked | me to do it - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20201#c11 No, I asked you to do it properly

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
17.2.2006, 0:23:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:14:42 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 16.2.2006, 23:58:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | | What are you talking about? commonbox is listed as maintainer of that | stuff, it's been broken for years, you neither fixed

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/gnotepad+

2006-02-16 Thread Jakub Moc
17.2.2006, 0:42:13, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: (ommited) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/DoNotFeedTroll.jpg Everyone else, sorry that you had to read this debate... :/ -- jakub pgpDXBRuHXpDD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] bug #20201 and bbapm

2006-02-27 Thread Jakub Moc
. TIA. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpJ6oWCjQowX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-27 Thread Jakub Moc
are going to assault someone. Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgpm1h2ln0Bno.pgp

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
27.2.2006, 22:33:21, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:49:23 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | rhetorical question | May I ask how is that related to webapp-config? | /rhetorical question It is related to Stuart, and hence utterly relevant to the conversation. Ah

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
nothing that could be done here. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) pgprwDQAkXsrs.pgp Description

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
the following change discussed and who approved that?! http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide-ebuild.xml?r1=1.25r2=1.26root=gentoo -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
to use non-default setup, then you need to change default values, that's what common sense dictates at least. And don't use the (non)-interactivity magical formular in a context where it has zero sense. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
-reader ) and then emerge lighttpd apache a couple of servers here some random webapps here I think it's pretty much obvious that this just won't work since such virtual doesn't and won't exist. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 15:39:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented here: | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?style=printablepart=3chap=1 No, the whole

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 16:29:07, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:08:05 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When and where has been the following change discussed and who approved that? http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide-ebuild.xml

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 16:42:46, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:26:37 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | If you can't do any better, then please apologize for your conduct | and false claims and shut up... TIA. Sure I can do better. But you didn't originally ask for better, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policies (was: [RFC] QA Team's role)

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
, they are private activity of those devs. If you agree with the contents, please ask yourself if the current discussion is necessary. See above. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 17:35:32, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:11:58 +0100 Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ok, sorry for being dumb :-) | What exactly is the issue there? I don't see the issue in setting SLOT | depending on ... uhm ... some variable. Looks kinda logical at

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 18:09:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:00:03 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | PVR includes the revision of an ebuild. This means that if a | revbump is made on a webapp package to fix a critical flaw, users | will still have the old broken package

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 18:11:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:02:11 + Renat Lumpau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Ebuilds can't override this either. Read on in the eclass and you'll | notice that it checks that SLOT

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 18:38:10, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Sheesh, you'll probably claim that this isn't broken next too: if [ ${IS_UPGRADE} = 1 ] ; then einfo Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG} emerge -C ${REMOVE_PKG} fi No, I won't claim that... I'd rather love to know why

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 19:39:15, Mike Frysinger wrote: snip ewarn This ebuild overrides the default SLOT behaviour for webapps ewarn If this package installs files into the htdocs dir, this is ewarn probably a bug in the ebuild. /snip Sigh... what kind of QA issue is that? which part dont you

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 20:59:42, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:51, Renat Lumpau wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:11:57PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: And it sticks out a nasty ewarn and says that the ebuild is probably broken. Which it _probably_ is. See, this is a numbers

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 21:39:43, Mike Frysinger wrote: whats your point ? if an ebuild author wants to control the SLOT, then they should be able to without having an invalid warning issued on the subject considering the nature of the warning, it should be trivial to make it into a proper QA check by

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
1.3.2006, 1:40:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 28 February 2006 19:28, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:13:57 -0600 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I should note that if are a Gentoo Developer and have | problems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions,

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 16:31:26, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:17:20 +0100 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Yes, it's an utterly trivial problem, but it is a QA violation. | Getting a complete list is something that

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.2.2006, 16:29:10, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:08:05 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 28.2.2006, 15:39:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | | No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-03-01 Thread Jakub Moc
1.3.2006, 11:29:47, Danny van Dyk wrote: | Where is a coding style problem related to quality of code in general | and assurance in particular? It's more relevant than you might think. Screwing up layout like that breaks various QA checking tools that assume that things are in the

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-03-01 Thread Jakub Moc
1.3.2006, 13:09:55, Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Tuesday 28 February 2006 21:20, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | if [ ${IS_UPGRADE} = 1 ] ; then | einfo Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG} | | emerge -C ${REMOVE_PKG} | fi This code (or an equivalent kludge/hack) does

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
/hb-guide-ebuild.xml?root=gentoor1=1.31r2=1.32 What's the above again? QA policy? How does user benefit from flipping a coin wrt choosing a functionality? Sigh... :/ -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
3.3.2006, 22:19:33, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:47:22 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, until something is clarified/some consent reached, avoid changing the docs w/ funny stuff like just flip a coin... http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
3.3.2006, 22:51:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 03 March 2006 15:47, Jakub Moc wrote: Please, until something is clarified/some consent reached, avoid changing the docs w/ funny stuff like just flip a coin... please, get a sense of humor, kthxbye -mike Sorry, I don't find anything

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
3.3.2006, 22:54:25, Grant Goodyear wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide-ebuild.xml?root=gentoor1=1.31r2=1.32 What's the above again? QA policy? How does user benefit from flipping a coin wrt choosing a functionality? Sigh... :/ It

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
3.3.2006, 23:25:13, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:27:45 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of point does it get across, exactly? That you must choose one flag, or set of flags, to take precedence in such situations, but that how you choose is quite

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Moc
3.3.2006, 23:32:36, Grant Goodyear wrote: Jakub Moc wrote: Erm, how exactly will you find out that you need to recompile that package after such extensive build? You'll spend a couple of hours debugging when your server app stops working? Yay! :P I had assumed that in such a case

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Jakub Moc
in trac bug trackers seemed as a good idea to me originally, most users are simply unable to do that anyway. We tried w/ php overlay, didn't work much. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Jakub Moc
, not official tree. If user installs ebuilds from overlay and breaks his system, then well - not a Gentoo problem. Why should any policies apply? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Jakub Moc
Duncan Coutts wrote: The way the Haskell team manages this is that we don't tell our end users about our testing overlay. So we don't get bug reports from them. We have three outside contributers with write access to the overlay repo. They make changes in consultation with the team. So we're

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:57:07 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Sounds like a perfect way to break lots and lots of systems. Those | policies are mostly there for good reason. | | You want to apply policies on overlays? Well no - sorry, overlays are | none

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
... :/ -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-24 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:16:15 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | We get innundated with tons of bogus bug reports every day, overlays | or not - see the number of invalid/duplicate bugs flowing every days. | We got a couple of bugs in last two a three days

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-28 Thread Jakub Moc
which might seem right but allas nothing can find the icons in there and .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications anyway. There are issues w/ mime-types etc. as well, but this mail is getting long as it is, so leaving that for another one, perhaps. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why

2006-03-31 Thread Jakub Moc
Sven Köhler wrote: I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds, but well: i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. May I suggest reading the fine handbook? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=3#doc_chap4 -- jakub

[gentoo-dev] xml2 use flag deprecation - ping (Bug 116346)

2006-04-02 Thread Jakub Moc
This is just a friendly reminder that Bug 116346 doesn't seem to be moving much. :P The two months old list seems still almost fully valid. http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=79178action=view Do we manage to kill the flag? Always good to have one redundant flag less... ;) Thanks. --

[gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag must die

2006-04-02 Thread Jakub Moc
This is a (not-so happy) reminder that the agony of gtk2 use flag will have been lasting for half a year soon. It *really* needs to die. For affected ebuilds, please see the attached list and Bug 106560. Thanks. -- jakub app-crypt/pinentry-0.7.2 app-editors/mp-3.3.12 app-editors/mp-3.3.14

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag must die

2006-04-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger wrote: and if there are no bugs filed ? this sort of stance is like the lets remove packages from portage because upstream is dead ... it benefits no one No bugs filed? Well, just search the archives of this ML, and search bugzilla for all those bugs about portage pulling in

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag must die

2006-04-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 02 April 2006 15:34, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: and if there are no bugs filed ? this sort of stance is like the lets remove packages from portage because upstream is dead ... it benefits no one No bugs filed? Well, just search the archives

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] media-gfx/sodipodi

2006-04-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Carsten Lohrke wrote: I don't see the necessity for devs and users would have to look at the package.mask file regularly to get the information that a package is masked. If Portage would be that smart to spit out the relevant information on emerge --sync, a longer period would probably make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations

2006-04-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Christopher O'Neill wrote: . I notice certain other popular distros are now running GCC4 (and have been for some time), yet we are still running 3.4.6 (on ~x86). I know it's a lot of work ensuring that all packages compile properly with GCC4 and that there are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-08 Thread Jakub Moc
Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Saturday 08 April 2006 00:52, Mike Frysinger wrote: highly suspect statements these states are all quite common ... trying to make some kind of supposition as to which is the most common is a waste of time No. It's my opinion. Respect it, please. You don't have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-14 Thread Jakub Moc
=st More fun: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109386 http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2005/11/16/happy_the_visibility_stuff_goes_away http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2005/10/06/ehi_i_m_invisible -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature

[gentoo-dev] Purpose of USE=doc

2006-04-25 Thread Jakub Moc
-- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Jakub Moc
point - there's also that hotplug_$iface=no thing in /etc/conf.d/net - wouldn't it be better to all keep network-related settings in one place? I.e., adding coldplug_$iface=yes|no there instead, and use RC_{HOTPLUG,COLDPLUG} in /etc/conf.d/rc for other services only? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Roy Marples wrote: Anyway, what we really need is ability to turn off that coldplug thing *completely* on *udev* level and restore some sanity. I really don't need to have my TV card coldplugged at the point when /dev is being populated by devices (e.g., Bug 130766 or Bug 128962). Not

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Roy Marples wrote: iptables already has before net, doesn't exactly help. Well, I don't need net on boot level first of all and I didn't set it to be launched at that runlevel. The runlevel setting gets ignored, however. Hmmm, maybe you don't understand then :) If coldplug adds net services

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Jakub Moc
and don't waste our time with completely invalid arguments. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
with many other non-KDE ebuilds that it depends on. So please, stop wasting limited time of limited number of Gentoo KDE maintainers by beating a dead horse. TIA. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E

Re: [gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Jakub Moc
for error messages, until then this is a no go... ;) -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Jakub Moc
spectacles? Ah, we just didn't have a pointless flamewar for a long time, right... :S -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA

[gentoo-dev] no need to CONFIG_PROTECT /usr/kde/2/share/config

2006-05-25 Thread Jakub Moc
Please, finally kill this thing from CONFIG_PROTECT in base/make.defaults, we are not Debian... :P Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-29 Thread Jakub Moc
be best resolution, there's tons of bugs w/ ebuilds submitted that can't find a maintainer. If you want something in portage, do you homework at least and attempt an ebuild. Just my $0.02... -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-30 Thread Jakub Moc
really close useless cruft when you come across it (see above). -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still

[gentoo-dev] [useflag] firefox : build against firefox instead of mozilla

2006-05-30 Thread Jakub Moc
/kazehakase): Use firefox's Gecko engine. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96473 as well. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need a use-expanded TV_GRAB variable for xmltv

2006-06-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Simon Stelling wrote: You forgot to mention which package uses the variable. Re: [gentoo-dev] Need a use-expanded TV_GRAB variable for xmltv ;) -- jakub signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need a use-expanded TV_GRAB variable for xmltv

2006-06-04 Thread Jakub Moc
Matteo Azzali wrote: Repoman considers lots of local variables as an error, I was pointed to expanded vars as a solution. If no developers has something against I'll be happy to use 28 local flags mattepiu Well uh, no please Don't create 28 local use flags for one ebuild,

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/x11-7* hides real bugs and breaks good ebuilds

2006-06-07 Thread Jakub Moc
@4u wrote: After posting and closing the bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135870 Jakub Moc noticed that the current =virtual/x11-7.0 ebuild misses its task and creates trouble. Indeed. To re-iterate here, I'll basically re-paste what I've said on the bug, so that people

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/x11-7* hides real bugs and breaks good ebuilds

2006-06-07 Thread Jakub Moc
ported, you can miss dependencies there if you have already them emerged b/c of the virtual. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/x11-7* hides real bugs and breaks good ebuilds

2006-06-07 Thread Jakub Moc
Olivier Crete wrote: Is there a recent list of non-ported packages ? Maybe we should do a last effort to port everything for a week or two and then package.mask the packages that no one cares enough about to port them. Hmmm, not a up2date one, AFAIK... There's a tracker bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Jakub Moc
the effectivity by a huge margin. Also comes w/ a nice side-effect of not bugspamming another 200 folks CCed on the bug when someone screws w/ attachments for a couple of times. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Jakub Moc
://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122500 -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Jakub Moc
work to SVN if bugzilla is *the* place for all this? Apparently it's not all that great, otherwise you wouldn't have done that. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dealing with /var/cache on unmerge

2006-06-11 Thread Jakub Moc
files on the filesystem. Daniel Already been there and got removed, because it broke emerge -e world for ebuilds that need configured kernel to compile. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/x11-7* hides real bugs and breaks good ebuilds

2006-06-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Jakub Moc wrote: Olivier Crete wrote: Is there a recent list of non-ported packages ? Maybe we should do a last effort to port everything for a week or two and then package.mask the packages that no one cares enough about to port them. Hmmm, not a up2date one, AFAIK

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-11 Thread Jakub Moc
, move it to this.is.unsupported.and.will.blow.your.box.gentoo.org if you feel it will help anybody. I feel it's completely irrelevant, but that's just me. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary

Re: [gentoo-dev] A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-13 Thread Jakub Moc
screen resolution suck, you can expect another funding request from blubb any time soon, it seems. :P -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Jakub Moc
used for assigning bugs, you are using it as a placeholder for something else. Category already tells us that it's a game, don't stick games into herd unless you actually maintain it. Thanks. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Jakub Moc
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:01:04 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This new terminology plain sucks. If you are sticking games into herd in metadata.xml, you are just confusing me and other people who are assigning bugs. It's not new. If it confuses you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Jakub Moc
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:21:42 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure... so, perhaps you have some suggestion how I can read assign bugs otherwise than using the metadata.xml; perhaps I could learn to read minds of the developers who dump irrelevant stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 02:33, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: We could require that a herd mail alias be maintained for every herd, with the same name as the herd, such that the herd alias lists the maintainers of all packages in the herd. this would be useful regardless

[gentoo-dev] eclasses maintainers - raise your hands please

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
While talking about herds etc... Please, stick your addy into the relevant eclass if you are actually a maintainer or at least a person to contact about the given eclass. Examples of eclasses that just let me clueless and digging in the logs when a bug/problem arrives: cvs.eclass - ???

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: I don't know if this is a really unpopular viewpoint, but for a lot of stuff I maintain I put myself as maintainer and the herd I am acting as part of in herd. My intention there is to say primarily I am taking care of this and have taken responsibility but if I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: - same name as herd requirement doesn't work for stuff like cron/mysql/postgresql/apache... i.e., system accounts. Herd aliases could be named herd-name, perhaps. Current practice for these aliases is herd-bugs in most of the cases. Examples - apache-bugs, php-bugs,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Chris Gianelloni wrote: *sigh* Indeed... No. You've gone and changed the practices we have in place now to make it more complicated. No, I didn't. If games herd wants any game dumped onto games herd, then do it. Most other people probably don't want unknown stuff dumped on them. Say it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Jakub Moc
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:43 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Say it with me. Herd == packages Team == people There's no such thing like team in metadata.xml, that's what we've been talking about for ~1 day now. Maybe it's what you erroneously have been trying to say

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Jakub Moc
here). Devrel's current policy clearly is that bugzilla may only be used for official overlays hosted on overlays.gentoo.org, Sorry for the inconvenience, not my fault. -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Jakub Moc
, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

2006-06-23 Thread Jakub Moc
on it. And, as there's not much left, they take something really childish and ridiculous, such as bugzilla keywords and status whiteboard, and run to devrel to ask for an urgent decision? What's this, if not a personal thing? -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

2006-06-23 Thread Jakub Moc
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 15:50 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Perhaps it is a few developers trying to actually enforce the council's decision and make sure that the 100% unofficial project doesn't *look* official. Using InOverlay as if Sunrise is some sort of Gentoo official

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-05 Thread Jakub Moc
of physically performing source distribution , a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: bugs performance issues

2006-07-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Curtis Napier wrote: Lance Albertson wrote: Please thank GNI for helping us out! They really deserve a lot for helping us :). Thanks- [1] http://www.gni.com/ Thank you GNI! droolmmm blade cluster/drool Yay, *plop* !!! (And no, tsunam - no compiling there :P) --

  1   2   3   4   >