Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Petteri Räty wrote: Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should that file be a License ?

2009-02-26 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Mounir Lamouri wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mounir Lamouri wrote: Hi, I was writing a trivial version bump for net-voip/gnugk-2.2.8 (bug #258518) but upstream added a file named

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Retirements

2009-03-09 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for a while? While they might not be actively committing they are still knowledgeable people that are just as capable as everyone else to push in a fix for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-09 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Tiziano � wrote: Hi everyone With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example). So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Retirements

2009-03-09 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: As opposed to those same bugs being assigned to maintainer-needed and getting lots of attention? The inactive dev can just as easily resolve a m-needed bug as one that is assigned to himself. The added benefit that some people actually look at the m-needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:53 AM, alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: snip Hi, I already posted some initial images on tinderbox. http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/virtualization/amd64/ Some weeks old by now. But I am fairly confident that image building can be made automatic via scripting. Granted,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Alec Warner wrote: I am interested in the number of ebuilds at specific APIs in the tree, do you have those numbers? Basically, how much work is this (raw ebuild count)? Total ebuilds 26209 EAPI0 ebuilds 22880 EAPI1 ebuilds 1855 EAPI2 ebuilds 1474 this numbers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Alin Năstac wrote: snip Fine, then remove $PV from patch name and use it in any ebuild version you want. Or just decouple the patch version from the ebuild version (foo-bar-r1.patch sounds OK to me). What exactly is your problem that you are trying to solve here? Posting to the community to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: prefix.eclass

2009-04-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org: On 12:59 Fri 27 Mar     , Fabian Groffen wrote: This eclass facilitates in some of the needs of the Gentoo Prefix project.  For now it provides the 'eprefixify' function,

[gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello all, In the Gentoo Prefix project we have a special USE flag: 'prefix', kind of like $ARCH USE flags. I am writing here to ask of the best way to introduce a global implicit USE flag to gentoo-x86. There has been some interest from other devs to kill diffs in ebuilds between gentoo-x86 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04-04-2009 20:41:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The two aren't mutually contradictory. Quite the contrary. For EAPI 3, we're aiming to make it illegal to do anything with a flag unless it's either explicitly listed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Hello, I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if that is so, if there are people who want to make it happen. snip Hmm, I wonder what the point is when there is 400

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-14 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:06 PM, David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: yourself, shell-like.   printf -v EAPI 1 is perfectly valid shell (at least if we decide to allow bash 3.1 features), and has the same effect To stir things up: Who decides this? There are more and more bash-3.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Josh Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either stabilization or news posting. The doc is somewhat out of date now. I assume you mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Josh Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either stabilization

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alistair Bush wrote: Dale wrote: The Gentoo subforum on LQ would help to collect the posts in one place. That would be the point.  Gentoo has its own forum so why have two forums?  What would be the point in having two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding enabling IUSE defaults application in ebuild

2009-06-08 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: While it usually doesn't do any particular harm (but I guess security and prefix/alt team won't agree on this) - insanely enabling everything by default The Prefix team does not care either way. is not the best idea in my opinion. Of course we need an example. Let's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicettojmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: snip Thanks to those that have nominated me, I would not have expected it to be honest. I am going to decline for the Council election. I have lots of other items going on in my life and can't quite add this

[gentoo-dev] app-portage/deltup needs help

2009-07-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello devs, It has been brought to my attention that deltup is in need of some lovin' via a treecleaner bug (bug 246916). Both deltup and app-portage/getdelta are used in combination to provide smaller tarballs. If anyone is interested in helping out the Gentoo dial-up users, please consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for X11 on alphas

2009-07-15 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org: Revision: 2 This is only needed for an in-repo revision...so please leave it at 1. but but no fixes are available yet, please see But but Imagine a trembling lower

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Samuli Suominen wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/ directory for matching entries and remove them too. Anyhow, package.mask's and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Josh Saddler wrote: Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not official. Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits them best; they don't have to use

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
I am suggesting that the new 10.0 profiles be marked as EAPI-2 compliant. This involves setting the content of the 'eapi' file to 2 and bumping up the required portage version. This seems like progress to me. Often, developers are complaining that they can't use SLOT syntax in profiles (I know

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking of libxcb 1.4 and related libs in !2008.0 profiles

2009-08-18 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Rémi Cardonar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, Just a quick heads up that I have just unmasked x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 and its companion libraries in all profiles _except_ 2008.0. Hey Rémi, Next time, mind running echangelog in the appropriate directory? It help us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking of libxcb 1.4 and related libs in !2008.0 profiles

2009-08-18 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Jeremy Olexadarks...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Rémi Cardonar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, Just a quick heads up that I have just unmasked x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 and its companion libraries in all profiles _except_ 2008.0. Hey Rémi,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Test request: Bugzilla load balancer

2009-08-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Robin H. Johnsonrobb...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi folks, I've been doing some more mucking with the Bugzilla code and setup, and I think I've got most of the issues worked out that previously prevented it from being fully load balanced. So, please test at:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Diff between Funtoo and Gentoo as an overlay

2009-08-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/22/2009 05:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is manual at the moment. By now a cron-based setup is running syncing the pure-funtoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Diff between Funtoo and Gentoo as an overlay

2009-08-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Of course that's my personal opinion. I don't use developer/experimental overlays, I only use those who provide some extra packages I want. And I was under the impression that pure-funtoo falls under this category: providing packages that don't exist in portage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 LiveDVD release enhancements

2009-08-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Samuli Suominen wrote: Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD images in shape for the Gentoo 10th year anniversary release. We need some assistance in terms of LiveDVD testers, user suggestions for new packages software testers since there will be over 100+ new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Diff between Funtoo and Gentoo as an overlay

2009-08-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world (stuff like wanting to upgrade to sys-apps/baselayout-2.1.5). Hopefully fixed

Re: [gentoo-dev] About udev-145: new features / extras and kernel requirements

2009-08-31 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM, William Hubbswilli...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 08:16:47PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Matthias Schwarzottz...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi there! The new udev-145 and newer have some new kernel requirements. How

[gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello all, You /may/ have noticed some fuzz going on with XFCE lately. Here is a quick outline of what Samuli and myself (mainly him though with my 'consulting' =P ) have been doing. - pkg renames: We want to match what upstream calls the packages. This includes renaming plugins to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Multimedia overlay

2009-09-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: Is this dead before it even began?  I'm getting no replies from yng...@gentoo.org. He is away: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/devaway.xml?select=yngwin#yngwin

Re: [gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Eray Aslan wrote: On 03.09.2009 05:38, Jeremy Olexa wrote: - xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed to reflect reality. This meta package is the *core* of XFCE, it *only* has in it what is required to run. Thus, returning XFCE to a minimalistic status in Gentoo Linux. This is desired

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Mounir Lamourivolk...@gentoo.org wrote: It's even worst when we try to use ACCEPT_LICENSE to have a free operating system. FWIW: Given the state of ebuilds, I think this should never be attempted unless the user knows it may not be accurate[1]. We should not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.class review

2009-09-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Torsten Veller ml...@veller.net wrote: snip if s/EXPF/TEST_EXPF/ in test.eclass, it does:  * another_test_src_configure  * another_test_src_compile  * test_pkg_postinst Although I don't anticipate xfconf and cmake being used together, we changed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: opengl-manpages, xorg-docs, xorg-sgml-doctools

2009-09-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 090922 Rémi Cardona wrote: # Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (19 Sep 2009) # Outdated and useless X doc packages # Masked for removal in 30 days app-doc/opengl-manpages app-doc/xorg-sgml-doctools app-doc/xorg-docs Before

Re: [gentoo-dev] On shebangs of scripts

2009-09-23 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, Recently, we added a new QA check in Gentoo Prefix' Portage to check shebangs (the #! things) of scripts before they are installed.  We basically did this simply because we don't want to use say /usr/bin/perl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in xfce-base/xfconf: ChangeLog xfconf-4.6.1.ebuild

2009-10-05 Thread Jeremy Olexa
2009/10/5 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Dne pondělí 05 Říjen 2009 23:31:03 Samuli Suominen napsal(a): Jeremy Olexa (darkside) wrote: darkside    09/10/05 21:22:30   Modified:             ChangeLog xfconf-4.6.1.ebuild   Log:   Port Gentoo Prefix ebuild to gentoo-x86   (Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-08 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Stelian Ionescu wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 16:32 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in net-mail/getmail: ChangeLog getmail-4.9.2.ebuild

2009-10-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le mardi 13 octobre 2009 à 23:48 +0200, Jeroen Roovers a écrit : On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:22:13 +0200 Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: We are working on a proper explanation targetted to devs of this. I'm sorry for the inconvenience caused. How large of a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?

2009-10-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Daniel Bradshaw wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that my work flow when doing updates follows a fairly predictable (and probably common) pattern. The obvious next step is to wonder why no one though of automating it... When doing updates I tend to look through the package list and classify

[gentoo-dev] Status of 10.0 profiles??

2009-10-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello, Since the 10.0 release there has not been an outward facing announcement for users to switch profiles. * Are we deprecating the 2008.0 profiles? * Are 10.0 profiles feature complete ? * Will there be an announcement? * Why are only the 2008.0 hardened profiles deprecated? ( %% find

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-24 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Hi there! Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22 Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting desktop profile to DE-specific

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-19 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Some questions answered. snipped the rest. Denis Dupeyron wrote: 2009/10/18 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Why on earth portage simply does not detect the prefix enviroment is being run and then INTERNALY switch D-ED and other variables. If that means we can get away without touching

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla testers wanted - Email send to: no one issue

2009-11-24 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:23 -0500, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tuesday 03 November 2009 13:33:55 Christian Ruppert wrote: Dear gentoo-dev subscriber, as some of you might have been noticed, we're having some trouble with Bugzilla's mail notification. In some cases you might

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

2009-12-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
William Hubbs wrote: All, I have been helping lately with the maintenance of openrc/baselayout-2. I was just asked today on IRC about posting stabilization plans to the list. I don't have a stabilization plan, so, what I am going to do is post a question to the list. What still needs to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory?

2009-12-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:59:44 +0100, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: With the current route where EAPI=3 will simply be EAPI=2 + offset-prefix support, and EAPI=4 will be EAPI=3 + some other stuff, the following question arose: Should an ebuild using an EAPI that has offset-prefix

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 15-12-2009 09:54:36 -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: I will be following up discussions on various mailing lists to prepare the agenda. If you already want to suggest topics feel free to reply to this thread. You'll get a second chance with the meeting reminder

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
David Abbott wrote: To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election. I nominate (in no particular order): jmbsvicetto tove darkside Flattered, but

[gentoo-dev] About treecleaners, a status update

2009-12-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello all, The treecleaner team wanted to update you all on the status. Bottom line: We could use more people. What we do: The treecleaner team last-rites and removes ebuilds as applicable. The reasons for removal are many. If we can trivially fix the package, we will try our best. What we

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2009-12-25 Thread Jeremy Olexa
James Cloos wrote: Diego == Diego E Petten� flamee...@gmail.com writes: Diego # Fails to build if /usr/X11R6 is not present (bug #247737, A bit trivial of an issue to drop a package, ja? The QA team should generate more patches and fewer kills. -JimC Also, where is the removal notice on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-28 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Vincent Launchbury wrote: Hi, I recently emailed the Gentoo PR team, voicing my concerns about the amount of non-free software within Gentoo. I got an interesting response from Sebastian Pipping, who said that while Gentoo is all about choice, including the choice to install non-free software,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-11 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote: As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this. Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal. It would be conspicuous in its absence. Would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-15 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:36:20 +0100, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello! By default layman currently stores overlays into /usr/local/portage/layman (was /usr/portage/local/layman before that). As of bug 253725 [1] that's not without problems. I don't think it should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:41:41 -0800, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 04:54:38PM +0100, Torsten Veller wrote: Can we please move the mips profiles from dev to exp in profiles/profiles.desc? The ~150 mips development profiles increase the time for a `repoman

Re: [gentoo-dev] eutils changes wrt EAPI-3 - ebeep and epause no longer available

2010-02-17 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: A as result of discussion http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo- d...@lists.gentoo.org/msg37300.html ebeep and epause functions defined in eutils are not available in EAPI = 3. For interactive installs, PROPERTIES=interactive should be used instead. Maybe ebeep and epause

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eutils changes wrt EAPI-3 - ebeep and epause no longer available

2010-02-17 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:13:06 +0200, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 17.2.2010 16.33, Torsten Veller wrote: --- eutils.eclass 15 Feb 2010 02:10:39 - 1.330 +++ eutils.eclass 17 Feb 2010 14:13:16 - @@ -50,6 +50,15 @@ done fi }

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eutils changes wrt EAPI-3 - ebeep and epause no longer available

2010-02-17 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:11:42 +, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:03:42 + Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: What is going on with all these undocumented changes? When I look at the council logs to see what is in EAPI3, I don't see

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New eclass for x11 packages

2010-02-18 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:33:42 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Requires eapi3 or any later when added, so wont work with eapi 012. Hey, can you explain why you choose to do this and what benefit there is to doing so? Thanks. -Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI =2

2010-03-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/02/2010 08:27 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Members of Gentoo Python Project have agreed to deprecate the following functions in EAPI =2: - python_version() - python_mod_exists() - python_tkinter_exists() - distutils_python_version() -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split desktop profile patches news item for review

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:52:50 +0200, Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: snip The following issues raised though: snip 3) There were no desktop dirs for bsd/prefix etc. That is not an issue for any prefix profiles. It is this way on purpose. Thanks, Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:17 + (UTC), Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Ben de Groot posted on Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:28:24 +0100 as excerpted: On 4 March 2010 08:08, Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote: Your logic is very thin here. By that same line of reasoning, neither are the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ebuild function to show package changelog

2010-03-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:59:58 +0100, Matti Bickel m...@gentoo.org wrote: As an alternative, let the ebuild provide a variable that points to upstreams online Changelog or something, so you as a human can go parse it yourself. But then you could also just take the HOMEPAGE variable that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:18:03 +0200, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording bug with only a single arch. I have myself assigned it to the arch in question but there's a difference of opinion here:

[gentoo-dev] bug-wranglers queue is large

2010-03-23 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Given that the b-w queue is over 200 bugs and some have not been wrangled for 3 weeks... Could everyone spend 5 minutes wrangling 5 bugs? (or more if you are willing :) Thanks, Jeremy

[gentoo-dev] misc packages up for grabs

2010-03-23 Thread Jeremy Olexa
I will be moving these to maintainer-needed in a few days. I no longer use them and have little motivation to fix incoming bugs. Don't bother to ask, just feel free to change metadata.xml to yourself. Thanks, Jeremy app-admin/bcfg2 Has a proxy maintainer that I haven't heard from in quite some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-24 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote: But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . . Some Gentoo developers/users, who aren't Python maintainers, said that they didn't object to have Python 3 installed. They're in the minority, judging by the replies

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:28:29 +, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: As a user, I still think this could turn into a real mess.  I think there will be quite a few that will see python being updated, run python-updater and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2010-04-21

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 04/20/2010 08:44 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: snip Another thing I've been working on is re-shaping the Gentoo code in a way that it's now ready to go upstream, at least from my point of view. I have requested permission to merge it in a few hours ago: Let's see how upstream

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Disabling some of our Mail Lists

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello, As suggested in bug 291860, I am heading up an infra cleanup project to disable/close some mailing lists. Since the list is quite large, I want to send it out for RFC. A few of the important reasons to disable some of our mail lists are: * Confusing to users because there are so many

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/traits: traits-3.4.0.ebuild

2010-06-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:19:33 + (UTC), Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis (arfrever) arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: arfrever10/06/10 19:19:33 Modified: traits-3.4.0.ebuild Log: Fix dependencies. Use -fno-strict-aliasing. (Portage version: HEAD/cvs/Linux x86_64)

Re: [gentoo-dev] FW: [Bug 150091] app-forensics/samhain ebuild issues

2010-06-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 06/12/2010 10:39 PM, sch...@subverted.org wrote: Why was a valid package removed for an errant comment in the ebuild? It's not dead upstream, and someone (me) took the time to actually look at it and note that the issue was at least mostly addressed, except for the comment. Hi. Most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel

2010-06-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:00:21 +0200, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: yngwin's devaway message still reads inactive, pending resolution of devrel issue. yngwin retired. I woudn't go as far as saying that his case made him retire but I definitely say that _DevRel failed on his

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-18 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 06/18/2010 09:25 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: In #gentoo-infra snip #gentoo-infra is a private channel and you don't have to be in there. No public community members/users are in there. The tone can be anything that is acceptable to the normal inhabitants of said channel. This topic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:04:24 +0300, Dror Levin sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I'll nominate robbat2, darkside and ferringb. Dror, Thanks for the vote of confidence. Now, I realize it is past the deadline for acceptance but I was not intending to accept after I saw the current batch of people that have

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/python-openid: python-openid-2.2.4.ebuild

2010-06-28 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:42:27 + (UTC), Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis (arfrever) arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: arfrever10/06/28 19:42:27 Modified: python-openid-2.2.4.ebuild Log: Fix dependencies. (Portage version: HEAD/cvs/Linux x86_64) Is there any reason you

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-dns/bind: bind-9.7.0_p2-r1.ebuild metadata.xml Ch angeLog bind-9.7.1.ebuild bind-9.6.2 _p2.ebuild

2010-06-28 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:10:45 + (UTC), Christian Ruppert (idl0r) id...@gentoo.org wrote: snip lots + gssapi? ( || ( =app-crypt/heimdal-1.2.1-r4 =app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r6 ) ) Christian, Any reason you aren't using virtual/krb5 ? -Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/python-openid: python-openid-2.2.4.ebuild

2010-06-28 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:26:17 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010-06-29 04:05:54 Jeremy Olexa napisał(a): On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:42:27 + (UTC), Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis (arfrever) arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: arfrever10/06/28 19:42:27

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-06-30 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:09:00 +0200, Diego E. 'Flameeyes' Pettenò flamee...@gentoo.org wrote: Please check the linked documentation or my blog post[1] on the matter if you want to understand the reasoning. I'll be dropping the flag and its context from now on if I stumble across it, without

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/pedro: metadata.xml ChangeLog pedro-1.5.ebuild

2010-07-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:59:34 + (UTC), Keri Harris (keri) k...@gentoo.org wrote: Index: pedro-1.5.ebuild === # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header:

Re: [gentoo-dev] zlib ebuild from OSS-QM

2010-07-06 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:48:43 +0200, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: Hi folks, snip please refer my recent postings on details what the oss-qm project is all about. just a few words: the main idea is to snip Enrico, There are actually so many 404s on your homepage (including both links

Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To anyone (else) out there who thinks that bug wranglers should be punished when they make mistakes in the heap of unthankful work they perform on a more than daily basis, I would like you to know that if you reassign

Re: [gentoo-dev] new eclass and portage category: octave-forge.eclass and dev-octave

2008-07-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
large snip [3] http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/science/browser/overlay/eclass/octave-forge.eclass You may want to look into making it eclass-manpages ready. -Jeremy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] IBM article of interest ?

2008-07-17 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Philip Webb wrote: 080717 Jan Kundr�t wrote: 01 Dec 2000 Updated 03 Jul 2008 [2] [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html The '03 Jul 2008' has been added since I sent my comment to them yesterday ! However, the incorrect URL for Gentoo Technologies -- www.gentoo.org --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select

2008-07-19 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Some kind of warning or other mechanism that does selecting this profile without knowing what you're doing would be a good idea. This isn't enough? %% grep KNOW * make.defaults:I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING=yes ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: It will at least allow QA team to fix such bugs where patches are already available. So, if bugs are being fixed why is there a need to fix something that isn't broken with regards to a policy _needed_ to enforce this action? Are bugs being ignored

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New PROPERTIES=interactive value to identify interactive packages?

2008-08-06 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Please consider a new PROPERTIES=interactive setting that allows an ebuild to indicate that it uses stdin and stdout for user I don't think anyone will disagree with this one. The one problem that I see is that if the ebuild still doesn't have this value in it, portage will *look* like it has

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New PROPERTIES=interactive value to identify interactive packages?

2008-08-07 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Zac Medico wrote: Like Alec said, I don't think this is a difficult thing to get right and even if the maintainer doesn't get it right initially then it's not something that's very difficult to spot and fix. More elusive bugs certainly do exist. That said, I still would like to make use of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-13 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Andrew D Kirch wrote: snip all Good points, I take it that you have found a mentor and are becoming a dev to drive this project then? -Jeremy

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Andrew D Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: Andrew D Kirch wrote: snip all Good points, I take it that you have found a mentor and are becoming a dev to drive this project then? -Jeremy I've spoken in the past with both Elfyn McBratney

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: remove app-office/borg from portage.

2008-08-18 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Tobias Scherbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Brooks wrote: Random idea: How about a different bug assignee for maintainer-needed packages with provided ebuilds/patches? Either something generic, or try to go for something more category/package specific

Re: [gentoo-dev] LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-27 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Ryan Hill wrote: On the other hand, it also seems completely ridiculous from a practical POV to have to wait 30 days (and waste arch team resources) to fix an incorrect licence on a stable package. And have everyone recompile the package, thus wasting cpu cycles and users' time. I would

[gentoo-dev] RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package

2008-09-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a package depends on corefonts but the reporter has stated that another fonts package will

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: x11-terms/root-tail

2008-09-22 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Jeremy Olexa wrote: # Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (12 Sep 2008) # Masked for removal in 60 days. dead upstream, missed modular X transition. # See bug #127193 x11-terms/root-tail I have lifted this mask. Multiple users have said that it works and they want it in the tree. I also got

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package

2008-09-23 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Ryan Hill wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500 Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usage of econf with an additional || die

2008-09-30 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Ben de Groot wrote: So, can we have a nice little table of which functions die by themselves and which ones need || die added in ebuilds? Please? Thanks, A quick grep of /usr/lib/portage/bin clues you in that every function that is an external file does *not* die by itself. So, emake, do*,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Gen 2 Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (`date`) # Masked for testing. =rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver Please people, if you want to get something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slacking arches - which are stable, which aren't?

2008-10-05 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Friedrich Oslage wrote: Am Sonntag, den 05.10.2008, 16:26 -0500 schrieb Steev Klimaszewski: Thoughts? Helps? Afaik we have 3 types of arches: - experimental They are not CCed on stablization bugs and don't do stablizations at all. ~mips, ~sparc-fbsd and ~x86-fbsd - unsupported They are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Slacking arches - which are stable, which aren't?

2008-10-06 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:44:51 -0500 Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest moving all the slacking arches to experimental until there is desire from the dev community (read: manpower

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