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Yup. Chalk up one more for the SoCal conspiracy. ^_^
Peter Gordon wrote:
Another Southern Californian, it would seem. Excellent. If you're ever
in the Anaheim/Orange County Area give me a jingle. We could go for some
Starbucks and head to Fry's or
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The mail server is not hosted by OSL. That server is somewhere in Italy, iirc.
I'm still receiving -dev mail just fine.
George Prowse wrote:
I cant pick up my -dev emails because of this outage
George
On 13/03/06, Lars Weiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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whoops. don't know where i read that, then. :)
Simon Stelling wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote:
The mail server is not hosted by OSL. That server is somewhere in
Italy, iirc.
I'm still receiving -dev mail just fine.
George Prowse wrote:
I cant
:
On Monday 13 March 2006 18:37, Josh Saddler wrote:
whoops. don't know where i read that, then. :)
Actually, you're right.. robin (which handles the mailing lists) is in
Trieste, but of course you need toucan to access the @gentoo.org mails...
Still, toucan is in Indiana, so not related to OSU's
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Olivier Crete wrote:
i'll miss him :(
Yea we have to keep him, he is one of the most important members of our
community.
Agreed! I like the lil' alien. (In some obscure way, he reminds me of Earthbound
. . .)
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2002? Vintage! Welcome back.
Daniel wrote:
Thilo Bangert has decided to return after an extended vacation (previously
with Gentoo in 2002).
The fun life of studying all over the world has finally caught up with him
and
really needs some bug
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(snipped)
Templates seem a bit . . . hackish. Mostly we also need documentation writers to
be/who are comfortable with working with the XML code itself, tags and all.
WYSIWYG editors just don't strike me as a good idea for
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Shyam Mani wrote:
Please take a moment to welcome our latest addition to the Forums gang,
Roy Bamford aka NeddySeagoon.
Welcome to the team! Wow, you've some credentials. I've certainly seen your
unfailingly polite, helpful presence around the
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Alec Warner wrote:
[...]
Gets my vote. Good idea. :)
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Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Thursday 08 June 2006 02:42, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to
migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to
commit their
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Alec Warner wrote:
Portage-2.1 final is released,
Thanks for the hard work, Portage team. 2.1 is fabulous. Really, really good
job!
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To me, official means it's found anywhere within the gentoo.org/ webspace.
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Marius Mauch wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:00:43 +0200
Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:37 -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
Have the GWN posted to -core in a sane time period prior to it's
release. I seriously doubt
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[. . .]
Right on! :)
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With all the talk about forums and comments, that got me thinking: Heck, why not
just have it posted to the forums? That way it and the comments can be viewed by
the general public, but if you want to comment, you can just use your existing
forum
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 04:02, Andrew Cowie wrote:
I'm not sure if any other distros besides Ubuntu are using it yet, but
certainly things will improve geometrically as they start to.
Considering it's not Free
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote:
With all the talk about forums and comments, that got me thinking: Heck, why
not
just have it posted to the forums? That way it and the comments can be
viewed by
the general public, but if you want
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Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
Hi all,
The mobile herd, a group of laptop and mobile-computing related
ebuilds, desperately needs more maintainers.
We are severely understaffed with only 8 maintainers (several which
are not active in the herd)
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Lance Albertson wrote:
All-
Just thought I'd update you on some of issue's we've been having with
bugzilla.g.o lately. Yes, its been slow in the last few months, but
today has been even slower than normal. The primary reason being another
large
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:48 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Not true. According to the 2006.0 x86 profile, for example, you're
| required to have =sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1. There is no requirement
| that 3.4 be
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Joshua Nichols wrote:
Krzysiek Pawlik wrote:
Two new new-style virtuals have been added today to the tree:
- virtual/jdk
- virtual/jre
This allows migration to generation 2 of Java build system to advance.
All virtual/{jdk,jre} have been
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Daniel Drake wrote:
Hi,
The local root exploit-of-the-week would have been unable to run if our
users systems had /proc mounted with nosuid and/or noexec
It would be worthwhile considering making this a default. What are
people's thoughts?
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Michael Cummings wrote:
I'm happy to announce a new addition to the perl team (no, not that kind
of addition - Dr. says that's in September folks;). You may know him
from such bugzilla favorites as libeperl dies on `awk` and
libwww-perl has
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Alec Warner wrote:
[. . .]
You win the Thread Title of the Month award!
There's no such thing as too much cowbell. :p
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Joshua Nichols wrote:
* JBoss maintainer
JBoss is a pretty important app in the enterprise world of Java. It has
been pretty unmaintained for some time now, and could use some love.
Because of the nature of this beast, I would want someone that
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Paul de Vrieze wrote:
Who cares. It works (mostly), it is lightweight, and there are enough people
using it to keep it in the tree. As long as things don't break beyond repair
I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 28 August 2006 14:50, Tuan Van wrote:
where do I get I voted sticker?
http://www.cafepress.com/spankgentoo.13531918
-mike
I'm _so_ voting for the Rice Party next election.
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
[. . .]
Define contributors -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one
*become* a contributor to get these rights?
This is potentially a big problem, the way I see it.
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote:
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
[. . .]
Define contributors -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one
*become* a contributor to get these rights
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
they are not defined by their status. I wonder why this word is causing
problems ..
The status is maybe being an arch tester. This GLEP is not about status,
only about giving some people bugzilla access when needed.
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Simon Stelling wrote:
Hello all,
I would like you to share your comments on the attached GLEP with me.
Thanks in advance!
While this has a novel approach to the problem (at least, I haven't seen
anything else that tries to solve the LICENSE
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Andrew Gaffney wrote:
That's not the issue. The issue is that there should *already* be a
releng liason, but nobody from releng seems to know anything about this
project.
I dunno . . . does releng really need to be involved, except if these
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:00:59 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I've created a new project, called Gentoo Seeds [1]. The aim of the
| project is to create stage4 tarballs which can be used to 'seed' new
|
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:42:02 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Not that bugging people w/ pointless paperwork would contribute
| anything useful to this new project or get any work done... What
| exactly is there to
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Oh look, we just got Slashdotted by someone doing their level best to create a
smear campaign, or at least to spread FUD:
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/09/20/2246231.shtml
As I said on IRC, new project, new whiteboard. why don't we leave it up
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Seemant Kulleen wrote:
(well, it's run more like a commune, but anyway).
I *knew* someone else was using my soap!!!
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Lionel Bouton wrote:
Here's an updated draft. I included most of your remarks and added some
notes on append-flags/filter-flags. I'll probably submit it to Ulrich
around the end of the week.
--- Draft BEGIN ---
section
titleCFLAGS/title
body
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Andrew Ross wrote:
Daniel Ostrow wrote:
Gentoo-wiki does not now nor will it ever get linked to from official
Gentoo media, documentation, or anything else within the www.gentoo.org
namespace...
Really?
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:29:14 -0400 Michael Cummings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 11:08 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| You mean devrel still hold secret meetings behind people's backs,
| and say things
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Thomas Cort wrote:
[. . ]
My, that's an awful lot of work on top of everything else we have to do. D'you
plan on getting us all paid, as well? That'd be motivation to stay and be even
more productive.
Also, it's not necessary for every dev to also
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
- Project status reports once a month for every project
Totally agree on this one!
OK.
I'll give you Release Engineering's status reports for September,
October, and November:
September: taking a well-deserved break
Petteri Räty wrote:
Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many
people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order
to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is
only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to make
Olivier Crête wrote:
Maybe we could use the dev wiki for that kind of stuff?
Having a wiki.gentoo.org would be even better...
There is, but it's uber-sekrit.
Or so I was told some years ago. It may or may not (still) exist.
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Tiziano Müller wrote:
Hi everyone
With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new
problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you
depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example).
So I think it's time for a short eapi bump
Dawid Węgliński wrote:
On Sunday 08 of March 2009 23:50:08 Ryan Hill wrote:
You do realize that many people don't speak any English, and therefore
wouldn't be filing bugs anyways? They just want to use their
computer. I'm not sure they will appreciate you forcing a language they
don't
Aaron Lebahn wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko afa...@gmail.com wrote:
Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current
graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install
CDs?
Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Hi folks, just a quick note, since the Willikins bot is widely used now.
Due to the datacentre where the bot is hosted moving physical premises, there
will be a downtime of 4-16 hours, starting Apr 15 04:00:00.
4 hours is the timeframe I've been told, but I think
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988
(http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either
stabilization or news posting. The doc is somewhat out of date now.
I assume you mean the baselayout-2/openrc migration guide?
Not as far as we know. And what we,
Jesús Guerrero wrote:
Hello,
This is a request for comments on a new project,
namely Gentoo Support Everywhere.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/
The web page doesn't really explain all the background
needed to understand why would anyone want to start such
a project. However this
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote:
Adding @overlay atoms/deps postfix support could really make life
easier, especially because forcing specific atoms in *DEPEND hoping
that these will be always pulled in from the same overlay is not
something reliable, as you already know.
No. This is a terrible
AllenJB wrote:
I'd favor tags over increasing the category
levels, tho I'm not convinced either is necessary at the current time
(tho tags might make searching easier, in some ways).
Heck yes! Tags are a good idea. The idea's been raised on -dev a few
times. I suppose they're not (yet)
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
GDP team:
(I didn't hear from you in the bug)
Could you please update:
- handbook section Writing Init scripts
- OpenRC migration guide
ACK on this one, we are already overwhelmed by openrc changes wrt init
scripts at media teams. Or at
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
[stuff]
Thanks, will take a look.
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Lars Wendler wrote:
Let's finally move on regarding this topic. As I'm also in favour of
the cdda USE flag I'd like to know if there's any objection against the
decision to unify/convert the cdaudio USE flag into cdda.
If there's no good reason against this conversion I will proceed with
Ben de Groot wrote:
Dear fellow devs,
We would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Gentoo Qt team
now officially discourages further usage of Qt3. Version 3 is no longer
being developed or supported upstream. All users are strongly encouraged
to use Qt version 4 where
Mart Raudsepp wrote:
I wanted to work at some point on splitting out gnome and kde profiles
to separate ones. Perhaps desktop profile could be a generic universal
one with USE flags enabled that rox/lxde/fluxbox and so on would like as
well, and then gnome adds its stuff, and kde adds its own
Ben de Groot wrote:
Hi,
The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is
a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses,
to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live
ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote:
Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org?
If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not official.
Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org?
A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits
them best
Samuli Suominen wrote:
2. Enable HybridISO for the images
What's this? Explain!
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Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
You do realize all this discussion is now pointless as 10.0 profiles are
in place already? :-p
So what do we do?
Sebastian
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
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Jeremy Olexa wrote:
[. . .]
Thanks for the message, Jeremy; it's informative and appreciated!
- xfce-config.xml: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml Josh
(nightmorph) updated this, basically an after thought by us so thanks Josh!
- xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Denis Dupeyron wrote:
Yes people, Mike is older than Uncle Seemant, and even older than me.
But is he older than nerdboy? Do we have competition for the Crotchety
Old Man title? Are we going to hear lots of stories that start with
when I was your age?
Welcome Mike!
Christian Hoffmann wrote:
Heya,
I'm going to p.mask =dev-lang/php-4* and all packages explicitly
depending on this version of php (i.e. the whole dev-php4/ category
(36 packages) and one webapp, www-apps/knowledgetree, bug 194894 [1])
next weekend (around Oct 14th). This step is necessary
Christian Hoffmann wrote:
On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by
reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must
be made? Grepping for php4 shows that there are references in the
following
Josh Saddler wrote:
Christian Hoffmann wrote:
On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by
reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must
be made? Grepping for php4 shows that there are references
Denis Dupeyron wrote:
He will now be a full developer and work with
the net-irc and x86 arch teams.
Point of clarification:
He already *was* a full developer before; he's just now *also* an
ebuild developer. You make it sound like non-ebuild devs with
different kinds of commit access aren't
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I may venture to assume that repetitive error messages of
that plenty could be seen at least as a documentation bug.
Which should be filed as a bug report or sent to the gentoo-doc list.
It's not a Gentoo documentation bug, so don't bother to file one, nor
mention it
Samuli Suominen wrote:
I'd like to add USE modplug to use.desc. I'll do it tomorrow,
unless someone objects.
-- snip --
local use flags (searching: modplug)
[-] modplug (gnustep-apps/cynthiune):
Build with modplug support
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
A bit over two years ago, some developers set out to get debian's
concept of mailerwrapper ('alternatives' for mail). Ever since then,
there have been a number of package.masks for various MTAs, and
the need to carry them forward.
mailer-config/mailwrapper have not
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
...which is just as good as broken when it happens to a new user
first installing Gentoo and wondering why he can't even follow the
directions in the Handbook.
...so you just ensure that the handbook tells the user to upgrade the
package manager as quickly as
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
There isn't meant to be the big black area at the top like, the main
gentoo.org site.
But shouldn't there be some sort of area at the top with links to the
other parts of the site, as the other pages do (the navstrip across the
top)? Right now there's zero integration
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I've been
asking and looking, but have not yet found, a version of the logo
without the spotlight effect on the background.
What about http://www.gentoo.org/images/gentoo-logo.svg ? It's just the
G, without any attached background or halo effect. Convert it to a png
or
Benedikt Böhm wrote:
Hi all,
the current behaviour of the apache ebuild -- chosing built-in modules based
on /etc/apache2/apache-builtin-mods -- is very aweful, especially for binary
packages.
Therefore, i would like to add APACHE2_MODULES and APACHE2_MPMS to
USE_EXPAND.
I have
Josh Saddler wrote:
Benedikt Böhm wrote:
If this goes through, please look over our existing apache-related
documentation and file a bug with any necessary changes.
I updated our documentation, thanks to the massive patch sent my way by
hollow. (Thanks, Benedikt!)
As mentioned in an email
Jose Luis Rivero wrote:
I would suggest this kind of question based on the different ideas shown
by the developers comunity:
- What is proper way to make changes to ebuild related information
(metadata.dtd)? Do we need a GLEP? It only need to be discussed in -dev
first? Gentoo-doc is
Petteri Räty wrote:
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti:
Unportable to filesystems that don't support extended attributes isn't
very interesting to me, unless they're common. Out of curiosity, do you
know which ones that would be? Looking at my kernel config, ext3 and
reiser explicitly support
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:17:12 +0100
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Putting a tag in the file name or at the to of the file as comment
(maybe using a #! line) is the same ...
* It's a format restriction. Some formats have to start with something
that's not #!.
Mike Frysinger wrote:
Well, openssh has always been questionable. Sure, *I* think it should
be on any Gentoo system I'd want to touch, but it really isn't necessary
for a lot of people. Moving this to, say, the server profiles only
would be acceptable to me, but then again, so is leaving it
Luca Barbato wrote:
Here is a list of interesting questions: Are we fine? What are we
going to do?
Documentation
(Note: I'm not the project lead, but neysx isn't on the list, nor does
he send status updates, so I hope he and the rest of the project won't mind.
Are we fine?
Sure, why not.
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc
packages please provide a
Petteri Räty wrote:
Josh Saddler kirjoitti:
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone
Zac Medico wrote:
(shtuff)
This sounds like something that might require extensive documentation
changes. If so, please review the Portage Handbooks for anything that
will need updating, as well as the Gentoo Upgrading Guide[1]. This
latter document is where we keep the instructions for
Petteri Räty wrote:
Actually bluetooth support is in quite a good shape. The thing was there
was a urgent need to get bluez-utils-3* stable for which I need some doc
updates etc before it can go stable. (Yes I am a slacker there)
Doc updates? GDP hasn't heard anything about this, as far as I
Alec Warner wrote:
s/writtten/written
s/aggregrate/aggregate
s/genitellia/genitalia
app-doc/nightmorph, your spellchecking tool.
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys?
In fairness, not just for Intel fanboys. Drop by the forums some time
and just try to count up all the threads asking are the amd64
stages/media appropriate for my computer? i have a core
Anant Narayanan wrote:
[stuff]
So basically, what you're looking for is something like Arch Linux's
Trusted User (TU) concept[1].
That works for Arch, because they have 5 repositories (including a
community repo), but I'm not sure how well that would fit Gentoo, where
there's just one.
We'd
Doug Goldstein wrote:
All,
This is a formal notice to everyone that OpenRC will be hitting the
Gentoo tree sooner rather then later. I would like to see *ALL* arch
teams give the current code a whirl on their systems, which is available
via the layman module openrc.
I would also like to
Doug Goldstein wrote:
It appears my migration plan was not good enough for Mike Frysinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he went ahead and wrote his own version of the
OpenRC ebuild, differing from the one in the OpenRC layman repo, and
committed it to the tree this weekend.
Since my offer to work on
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:07:43 -0700
Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see that a number of packages in the tree explicitly filter
-ffast-math.
That's mostly from the bad old days when users were encouraged to use
silly CFLAGS...
1. _When_ was this?
2. _Who_
Denis Dupeyron wrote:
Alright. Then I'll nominate all members of the current council. In
alphabetical order:
amne
betelgeuse
dberkholz
flameeyes
jokey
lu_zero
vapier
Seconded.
(Also...it's voting time already? Can't believe it's already been a year.)
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Łukasz Damentko wrote:
Hi guys,
Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be
open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008).
Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council
members (again):
amne
betelgeuse
dberkholz
flameeyes
George Prowse wrote:
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Take it to gentoo-project, please. This list is s'posed to be for
technical discussion. gentoo-project is more appropriate for this kind
of query.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:49:35 +0200
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:50:11 +0200
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So how, specifically, is PMS wrongly written, and why hasn't
anyone who thinks so bothered to
Steve Dibb wrote:
Any objections to moving MP4 from a local to a global USE flag. For the
record, MP4 is a multimedia container to store multiple audio/video
formats in.
Currently we have 4 ebuilds using it, all for the same description.
4 doesn't sound quite worthy of global, yet.
Alec Warner wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Joe Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be
categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented
in. 90% of the time you don't care
Tags . . . I like the idea. I like it a lot. Thoughts? Exciting? Or is it an
old issue, and I'm 5 years late to the party. :)
Probably more than 5...
Well, that's not very helpful. Got any links? My archives.g.o-fu has
failed me.
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Fabian Groffen wrote:
I'm just wondering... unless it has changed since last time I installed
Gentoo Linux, but isn't the installation manual on purpose conservative
with CFLAGS? make.conf.example also does not much more than
-march -O2 -pipe. -O1 to the linker feels conservative to me.
Philip Webb wrote:
I'm not sure whether anyone among Gentoo officials cares about this,
but IBM has an article
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html
whose byline is very misleading may infringe on Gentoo's IP.
I have submitted a comment to IBM via their form at the
Philip Webb wrote:
080716 Josh Saddler wrote:
Philip Webb wrote:
I'm not sure whether anyone among Gentoo officials cares about this,
but IBM has an article
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html
whose byline is very misleading may infringe on Gentoo's IP.
I have
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Reading around on the net, it amazes me how many people are using
developer profiles for their Gentoo because they think it's for software
developers and don't see that it's for Gentoo developers and not
intended for end users. They know the Developer installation
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