Re: [gentoo-ppc-dev] PS3 and crossdev

2007-04-09 Thread Luca Barbato
... powerpc64' crossdev wasn't using the version of gcc I specified. It was using the latest, which doesn't build successfully. So now I'm trying to figure out how to specify the _exact_ ebuild. Please send me the error log, it's quite strange that it fails. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-06 Thread Luca Barbato
I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) lu [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation [2] http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=fenice -- Luca

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 20 /srv - Services Home Directory Support

2006-01-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: I'm thinking about adding the srvdir[1] global useflag. Scream if I miss some discussion preventing it. (fenice[2] will use it, that's why I'm adding it) lu [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0020.html#implementation [2] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ca-certificates PDEPEND

2006-01-09 Thread Luca Barbato
of action to me. NOT until use-based deps are in place, plzktnxbye!!! Don't break the damned realplayer thing again. Just add it as DEPEND and everybody would be fine, isn't it? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2006-01-15 PPC meeting summary

2006-01-15 Thread Luca Barbato
Lars Weiler wrote: == 2. Dev Activity (Who's alive?) == Devs seemed to have vanished and even the operational manager isn't around strategic, not operational, I'm still alive ^^! (which had happened more often in the past -- probably there is a bane on this position). lu -- Luca

Re: [gentoo-dev] My Resignation

2006-01-26 Thread Luca Barbato
of you and regret having to resign. I hope to have you back once you'll get more free time ^^ Best wishes! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] beep-media-player removal: 04/03/2006

2006-02-23 Thread Luca Barbato
players. Now, bmp is phased out, which is the gtk2 light player that could match it's deps and features best? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Staffer: Christel Dahlskjaer

2006-03-13 Thread Luca Barbato
bookmarks, unbookmarked spots in a book, and playing the violin: sometimes in that order. ...oO(Doing them all at the same time would require too many arms...) Welcome Christel! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Stuart Herbert wrote: Thanks for the summary. I think that's a fair assessment of where we are at. The offered software will be trac, svn, and moinmoin. I'm going to look at darcs, and with the help of the haskell team and infra determine if we can support it or not. No-one has expressed

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Aron Griffis wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 05:16:57AM EST] Please consider git and mercurial proxies, maybe nobody proposed it yet but is relatively easy to provide it and it would be great since gives you most of the goods from darks w/out the pain related of building

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
/python for some merge scripts) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild Developer: Christian Hartmann (ian!)

2006-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Danny van Dyk wrote: Congratulations Christian! :-) Danny Another perl monk joining! Welcome and beware of the rabid vapier! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Thomas Cort (tcort)

2006-04-18 Thread Luca Barbato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give Thomas a warm welcome if you haven't already done so :) Welcome Thomas! lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-30 Thread Luca Barbato
should use a bit less disk and git should be a little faster and with better merge/conflict resolution features. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Disenchantment

2006-05-07 Thread Luca Barbato
/cool. the quiz is dumb and is structured to point some common situations in which you may not solve properly at the first try. I'm quite sad we have such different ideas about the quiz and why it got in or why we are developing Gentoo. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http

[gentoo-dev] [useflag] v4l2 : video4linux2 support

2006-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
] v4l2 (dev-libs/pwlib): Enable video4linux2 support [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mpeg4ip): Enable video4linux2 support for mp4live [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/mplayer): Enables video4linux2 support [+ C ] v4l2 (media-video/transcode): Enable video4linux2 support lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [useflag] v4l2 : video4linux2 support

2006-05-30 Thread Luca Barbato
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:57:19PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: Currently we have already 5 applications supporting v4l2 (6 if I split the support in ffmpeg) Any reason why we can not use the existing 'v4l' use flag for version 2 as well? Why repeat the gtk/gtk2

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
status or keyword that let a script know that there's an ebuild to pull from bugzilla that should be added to the there-be-dragons-here overlay, I'd think that would make life much simpler for everybody. +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
solution =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Frysinger wrote: rather than moving to some sort of policy that satisfies no one completely and we'll have to back out of later, why dont we wait until portage can give us proper support for USE=client/server -mike +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Luca Barbato
... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sharing portage?

2006-06-13 Thread Luca Barbato
Molle Bestefich wrote: Hi Follow-up question to the backup thingy. Is there an easy way to share Portage's database between multiple virtual machines? unionfs is your friend =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Luca Barbato
send a notice about it upstream 2- append -fno-strict-aliasing to every source known to have such issue. I'll do 2 on all packages in the tree showing the issue if you think is ok, arches not yet affected will be in the future. lu [1]http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14725 -- Luca

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Luca Barbato
use -fno-strict-aliasing when needed. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

2006-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
unfair the people requesting it were, discuss about how to keep it alive and such. Sounds that out of world as reasoning? that said, genstef do you mind starting from scratch describing the idea and the implementation details (taking in account point raised)? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux

[gentoo-dev] [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
point 2 lines at least, 4 at most) - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines again) That is just an experiment to see if we can have a thread producing a result w/out too much discussion overhead. who is going to play with me this game? =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
://gentoo-sunrise.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/HowToCommit It isn't in the format useful for a discussion point by point, genstef is converting it, I hope. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Edward Catmur wrote: On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 13:05 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: (from critics) - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most) - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines again) Let me reformat a bit Critic 1 * Simplicity: The FAQ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise - Update.

2006-06-24 Thread Luca Barbato
experiment about constructive discussion in the ml! =/ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Mivz wrote: You called me selfish, childish Whoever complains about the distribution rules from GPL after using GPL'd source/stuff is... and a M$ lover... Never said. Well... I'm a squatter, I try to live anarchistic and I do not prejudge people. And if I disagree... I certainly do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-29 Thread Luca Barbato
support for QA checkers clientside and serverside (there are precommit hooks you can use for that) That way we will avoid those smart problems as described in irc long ago. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future developer

2006-07-01 Thread Luca Barbato
Paul de Vrieze wrote: ps. If I'm a bit away these days, it is due to me being preoccupied with my mentoring task. =) Congratulations ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-07-02 Thread Luca Barbato
commands in global scope and/or shutting down sandbox is a must. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
if the handmade stuff isn't wrong) Sounds fair or I'm missing something? -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
. I don't know if altivec is as clearly determined from the target arch; perhaps the ppc people could chime in. it is Clearly most are in media-* categories, so that would be a good place to start :) yes lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
we're all in, mmx useflag is enabled by the vast majority of our users. Depending on who wrote the altivec part of a program you may like to disable it since works just on macosx /me still would rather have both systems in place. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
could do and what you expect to obtain eg: -mcpu=nocona use 3dnow would issue a warning and disable it - as the one before again but with a var to decide if follow the use or the gcc check. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
properly set in profiles specific even if I like the idea of being able to check for compiler support. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
Patrick Lauer wrote: lu_zero Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: And add my nominations for lu_zero I accept the nomination. I'd add to the pot pvdabeel and pylon since was and still is a pleasure working with them =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Luca Barbato
the complete profiles for amd64 more than the other solutions. lu lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Simon Stelling wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Alternatives: - as PPC we provide a default cflags use tuned per certain cpu families using profiles, amd64 could provide a nocona profile that bans 3dnow* useflags. Not really. There are athlon64s and opterons with and without sse3 support

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Danny van Dyk wrote: OK, this rfc/proposal is competing with Flameeye's proposal: I suggest to add a CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the tree. Name it SIMD or CPUFEAT to avoid misunderstanding with the other *FLAGS This should be set to sane defaults in the profiles. I.e. for x86, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Danny van Dyk wrote: USE_EXPAND useflags do not need to be added to either use.desc nor use.local.desc. One point was adding better description about them to avoid misuse. Further, we keep track of other hardware-related metadata in USE_EXPAND, too. See INPUT_DEVICE and VIDEO_CARDS.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Barbato
stuff all this cruft in a single place and have a separate use.desc for them. I hope I'm not too tired and I didn't miss something ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Matthias Schwarzott wrote: What do you think of that? c is simpler. I like it. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Making openexr global use

2006-07-20 Thread Luca Barbato
module yafray is getting it too right now. I'll put it as global if nobody shouts otherwise. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Upgrade! Steve Dibbs

2006-08-06 Thread Luca Barbato
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: and I suspect he will be slaving away with the media-video herd. I I for one I'd like to greet my new minion^Wfellow developer ^^ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk1 vs. gtk2

2006-08-07 Thread Luca Barbato
cleanly, slotting is utterly useless. gtk-1 is deprecated, it will disappear sooner or later. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Luca Barbato
solution, too. And I hoped when I started this thread, that we will find together a good solution. You can just write something like flagedit for your extreme uses. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk1 vs. gtk2

2006-08-07 Thread Luca Barbato
using this ugly hacks. Good way to have your account suspendend. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Luis Medinas wrote: If noone takes it will be saved on overlays.gentoo.org. Everyone needs to know that xmms is old and tired (obsolete). A few developers on redhat, mandriva and suse marked xmms as obsolete. Now it's our turn to move it to our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Well, it depends on your definition of help. Testing recent snapshots or providing shells would be perfectly fine. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Luca Barbato
in... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

2006-09-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: If neither of those points are convincing enough, then remember free software comes with *NO-WARRANTY* s/free// Even payware is w/out warranties. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

2006-09-03 Thread Luca Barbato
more people in the future(eg new hw support) looks good enough. that said I hope that the sales on trollfood will end ... -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cdrtools license issues

2006-09-05 Thread Luca Barbato
new releases etc... cmake for a C program is a BIG shortsight. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] What would Freud say? New developer; Mike Kelly!

2006-09-05 Thread Luca Barbato
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: So yeah, buy him a pint and welcome him onboard! Welcome! -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-06 Thread Luca Barbato
the only one who has a problem with this? Genstef PLEASE always contact the related herd before adding stuff. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!

2006-09-09 Thread Luca Barbato
stuff will be available from specific front-ends. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Alec Warner wrote: So which sucks, upstream or our unbending policy? upstream for that reason us because we haven't a tool like the one BaSS wrote for the ebooks. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GIMP 1.2 has gotta die

2006-09-12 Thread Luca Barbato
Hanno Böck wrote: Am Dienstag, 12. September 2006 02:46 schrieb Michael Cummings: Looks like that will break media-gfx/frontline (=media-gfx/gimp-1.2*) and gimp-freetype-0.2-r3 (also =media-gfx/gimp-1.2*). frontline is dead upstream, has no metadata and last changelog-entry is about a year

Re: [gentoo-dev] Toys for arch / release people

2006-09-14 Thread Luca Barbato
Doug Goldstein wrote: Stop being nice and polite... It's freaking me out. Beside the alien abduction thing that lead that change, I think there isn't nothing to be afraid. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: Fw: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-19 Thread Luca Barbato
a few more weeks, the virtualization herd takes seed product and adds appropriate vmware/xen/etc modifications to create ready-to-run virtualization images. I like this plan. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 52 - GLEP 23 revisited

2006-09-20 Thread Luca Barbato
Simon Stelling wrote: GLEP: 52 I don't like it: too complex, glep 23 is fine. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Luca Barbato
project just to keep hardtotrack bugs to the minimum. -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Luca Barbato
packages that depend on it. Thoughts? It would require revdep resolution on emerge... how painful would be? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Luca Barbato
you want depending on useflags? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Duncan Coutts wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 20:27 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: Duncan Coutts wrote: So my point is, I don't think it can be simply dismissed as ABI nonsense that we don't have to deal with. Being able to SLOT on the compiler flavour (and possibly version) would allow us to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] New dev: dev-zero

2006-09-27 Thread Luca Barbato
Simon Stelling wrote: With this addition, the Swiss conspiracy soon will be powerful enough to bribe everybody else with chocolate, so you better watch out. The devs living in Torino will be all immune! lu PS: Torino is quite proud of its chocolate, in particular the Gianduia one. -- Luca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Luca Barbato
on others feet is quite hard and not dead easy as today? those point and less noise on gentoo-dev. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-26 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/26/2012 01:16 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: along those lines, a news entry is probably not even necessary. So, users will just suddenly have their binary change names, and will need to manually move config files and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/15/2012 01:48 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: The systemd developers were in the middle of a transition to the LGPL from the GPL when we forked. We inherited the code in the middle of that transition and we see no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/15/2012 05:20 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: eudev is a Gentoo project is not Gentoo. Same could be said for OpenRC. OpenRC isn't a Gentoo project, at least, it wasn't in the past. The social contract defines Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] new global USE flag: orc

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/16/12 5:28 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: Currently, the orc local USE flag is used by 11 packages, 9 of them with identical descriptions. I think it's time to make it a global flag. I would suggest the following description: Use dev-lang/orc for just-in-time optimization of array

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/17/12 11:30 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:23:00 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 17/12/2012 11:19, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/17/12 11:40 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: So systemd still works with a separate /usr and you're continuing to spread misinformation. Demonstrating such behaviour while complaining about the behaviour of upstream is IMO very ironic. No it does not, try by yourself please ^^ (or just issue and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/17/2012 02:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote: All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of forcing everybody out there using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/17/12 2:25 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:09:08PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: On 12/17/12 11:40 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: So systemd still works with a separate /usr and you're continuing to spread misinformation. Demonstrating such behaviour while complaining about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 02/01/13 13:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/01/13 23:01, Jeff Horelick wrote: I would like to propose a switch of the order of DEPENDs in virtual/pkgconfig to make dev-util/pkgconf[pkg-config] the default choice for new installations. dev-util/pkgconf has less external dependencies, is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium system ffmpeg

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Barbato
On 15/01/13 05:34, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I'm trying to make Chromium be more compatible with more versions of ffmpeg: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/topic/chromium-dev/fm5Oe_AC3Sc/discussion (although not stated there, that includes libav). Now the initial response there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium system ffmpeg

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Barbato
On 16/01/13 12:54, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:10:12 -0800 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 1/15/13 4:55 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:34:42 -0800 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm trying to make Chromium be more

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-emulation/qemu-user mask

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/01/13 05:45, Doug Goldstein wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. app-emulation/qemu provides all the functionality of app-emulation/qemu-user without all the outstanding security bugs and issues the package has. For users using a cross chroot, I encourage you to look at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Barbato
On 16/01/13 21:09, Alexis Ballier wrote: More seriously: Why ? Who decided this ? I never pushed my weight over it before since as you are involved in FFmpeg directly, I am involved in Libav directly. Thus anything I say on this topic has a clear bias. Same goes for you. Tomas is not related

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Barbato
On 16/01/13 22:31, Alexis Ballier wrote: interesting, did they report it? OTOH, they switched _after_ the 2.0.5 release which happens to be the latest one. Since vlc is probably the ffmpeg/libav interface the most popular in the world (due to their windows and mac builds), I'd like to see an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-01-17 Thread Luca Barbato
On 17/01/13 15:07, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:41:58 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So yes it works and should not pose any issues to user. I also announced it over blog to get people report more issues they find out so I can be really sure it works

[gentoo-dev] Re: About dropping ppc-kernel herd

2013-01-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 20/01/13 10:26, Pacho Ramos wrote: Looks like no package is included in it, I think we should drop that herd then Do you agree? Agreed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium system ffmpeg

2013-01-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 19/01/13 20:10, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: have a way to more simply exclude code that requires CODEC_ID_OPUS. Exclude in chrome or in libavcodec? The latter is a matter of adding --disable-decoder=opus and/or not --enable-libopus in the configure. lu

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-emulation/qemu-user mask

2013-01-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 16/01/13 20:20, Luca Barbato wrote: Again please do not mix qemu system emulation with qemu userspace wrappers. They have different needs and requirements. qemu-user-1.2.2 in portage. I'll drop the mask as said before. We can discuss on irc or here on what's the best strategy today anytime

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-02-09 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/02/13 22:46, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:41:04 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 07 of February 2013 06:52:44 Peter Stuge wrote: Tomáš Chvátal wrote: we as gentoo will provide both while preffered default will be what major distros use.

Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-11 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/02/13 03:01, Alexis Ballier wrote: Sorry, I was away this week end... Not a problem, I should be reachable anytime today. This is only because libav people do not care at all about what FFmpeg defines, while FFmpeg seems to care more about its consumers and users by trying to provide a

Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-11 Thread Luca Barbato
Your whole email is derailing a bit from discussing the code at hand and it is going deep down on the people, I'd rather not get there since it gets totally unrelated the question at hand. On 11/02/13 14:49, Alexis Ballier wrote: All of this because ~10 people cannot work together, well, really,

Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-11 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/02/13 22:33, Peter Stuge wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: May I point you that ~10 people were the majority of what was FFmpeg, thus 10 people were enough to demote democratically the so called Leader and that guy got the name from Fabrice as his personal decision? There was probably

Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/02/13 08:21, Ian Whyman wrote: Guys, Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This instance clearly not going to resole itself. It is a little bikeshed. Originally the virtual was ordered in a way, then ordered in another and now we are discussing which one is better

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 25/02/13 22:32, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Though people that use -ffast-math / -fLTO / -fuse-linker-plugin should be on their own, thus I drop -ffast-math because it breaks my browser; but that doesn't mean that those ricer

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 25/02/13 23:21, Rich Freeman wrote: My point was just that: 1. No, the fact that entire packages fail to build/operate using -ffast-math is not a valid bug. From your email the message was the opposite, maybe a not got lost? 2. If individual packages DO carefully use -ffast-math and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/01/2013 12:04 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: PLEASE DO NOT START A FLAME WAR AND READ ON FIRST. THIS IS NOT A POST AGAINST OPENRC. Amen With the release of Sabayon 13.04 [1] and thanks to the efforts I put into the systemd-love overlay [2], systemd has become much more accessible and easy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/04/2013 03:12 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I just forgot the tricky part. If future lvm versions are going to use udev more extensively (for eg: storing more critical metadata in it), the net result will be that mdev won't work anymore. This is why I wrote that lvm is working by miracle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-05 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/04/2013 03:05 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: Long story short, we should: 1) give up with cross compiler support in genkernel, which has been anyway in a broken state for ages. Nobody is using it anyway. 2) make possible to optionally use udev in the initramfs (compiling just for it is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-14 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/10/2013 09:45 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd#Unit_Files What if openrc/upstart/runit devs start harassing upstream in the same way? Strategically is great, but isn't exactly something nice to do. Probably people caring about alternatives

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