Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 20:27, Stephen Bennett wrote:
They're rather minimal, and still an order of magnitude larger than what
I'm proposing here.
Right, the point is not the change in itself but the way people are going to
experimenting with it.
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 22:13, Jan Kundrát wrote:
See /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/dev/README :)
You think the phrase RTFM would have ever been forged if people actually
read that stuff?
This is pretty much true for trying out any new
Peter wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:42:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Hi,
I have founded a new Gentoo Project for the Gentoo User Overlay.
The intention is to give contributors a single place to put their ebuilds -
a place where they can be downloaded, updated and be moved to portage
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 08/06/06, foser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they
are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure
their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap
asian poetry
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 08/06/06, Jon Portnoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or
subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be
done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and
supporting a
Peter wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:51:25 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
First, let me say that I'm approaching this from a user's perspective. I
have no insight or knowledge as to the history of the overlay project or
any of the people involved. I _do_ know that since late 2004 when I first
Stuart Herbert wrote:
On 6/8/06, Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will you also review the code each and every ebuild pull down over the
internet?
The policy for overlays.gentoo.org hosting [1] is hopefully clear: as
the project leads, they're ultimately responsible (and
Everything maintained by the Gentoo project, instead than for the Gentoo
project.
Stuart Herbert wrote:
Hi,
One of the issues that the o.g.o project has brought to a head is the
definition of what is official and what is not official when it
comes to Gentoo. The term is already being thrown
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
There are already loads of semi-official overlays. Besides the stuff
actually hosted by gentoo (random example
http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/bzr/overlay/) there are official
groups
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, i agree, writting and maintaining ebuilds is a hard and
*time-consuming* task.
So if an user can't even take the time to fix a digest, why we should
support him
officially?.
The point
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Since when was overlays.gentoo.org supposed to even be a service to our
users? As I understand it, the goal was to ease development, not to
provide an easy method for half-working ebuilds to make it to our user's
machines.
Our users are
Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
Fine. I highly agree on that, now my question is,
why this needs to be officially supported?
See
Why does this have to be on official gentoo hardware?
http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq
The FAQ is offline
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 22:05 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote:
On 6/9/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gentoo's standard operating procedure is to build packages as they were
intended and packaged from upstream.
+1
This means if the client
George Shapovalov wrote:
субота, 10. червень 2006 04:28, Christel Dahlskjaer Ви написали:
I would like to ask that the Council discuss the current state and
future of the GWN at their next meeting.
Hah? What has concil to do with this? Is it going to mandate GWN be better
and it
Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 16:14 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
How exactly is it easier to manage a large number of ebuilds versus a
small number?
It is easier to manage one large overlay than managing 35 small overlays.
Communication overhead, duplication of effort,
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Continuing in the series of issues raised during the previous package
manager discussions, I'd like to continue by mentioning the tree
format. At present, it isn't defined beyond what the current portage
supports, which is frankly a fairly silly way to do things.
Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:04:39 -0400
Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the idea. This would be some kind of portage-tree standard?
This would be, in essence, a formal definition of the layout of the
tree, and the format of and assumptions
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Lance Albertson wrote:
All-
Just thought I'd update you on some of issue's we've been having with
bugzilla.g.o lately. Yes, its been slow in the last few months, but
today has been even slower than normal. The primary reason being another
large
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Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:09:29 +0200
Lars Weiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
app-cdr/xcdroast: A nice rustical application, which reminds
me to my first CD-burnings on Linux... But there was no
upstream update within 2,5
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Hello everyone,
Here, with this email, i propose (after a brief discussion on irc with
gensteaf)an alternative or at least a new model to address a few issues
with our maintainers needs and the inclusion of new packages into the
tree. Probably an
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
3 - Users ask on this mailing list if there exist any developer
interested to include X, or Y ebuild into the tree. (Probably we could
create a template for this?)
The user should send
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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
The gentoo devs currently do much of the upstream's work.
Fixing bugs or even adding new stuff which does not directly have to
do w/ gentoo should be done exlusively by the upstream.
Not true at all.
We (as developers)
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Robert Cernansky wrote:
Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the major
advantage of Gentoo is easy maintenace (not mindless, but easy if you
know what you are doing) thanks to portage system. Another is
availability of
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Robert Cernansky wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:46 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Cernansky wrote:
If I have some application that is not included in portage why
I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it
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Bruno wrote:
Through proxy-dev I may contribute ebuild for a few packages and maintain
them
over the time period I have use for them. E.g. drivers as long as I have
given hardware (in use).
That is great!
What would be useful is to have
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Ryan Hill wrote:
So far the only difference between this and doing a query on b.g.o for
maintainer-wanted is that it's on mailing list.
Which (as a side note), increase the flow of communication between
developers and users, giving an alternative
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Lance Albertson wrote:
Peter Gordon wrote:
Matthew Marlowe wrote:
If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian
Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining
mindshare rather quickly, and
sHadoW MaN wrote:
Hi
I am never has programmed on Linux but I looked on the net about
hardware interrupts library
I wanted to make a program as Fdisk using C++ ( I have kdevelop installed)
Is there a web site who has all general I/O headers
Any idea please
This list is for specific gentoo
Lance Albertson wrote:
I thought of that while I was walking to a meeting..heh Basically,
Appoint two people to co-lead, or appoint one Lead and one Vice Lead.
That way there's some kind of accountability on the bare minimum level
and good coverage (hopefully).
I was also thinking about
Marius Mauch wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:53:32 -0400
Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance Albertson wrote:
I thought of that while I was walking to a meeting..heh Basically,
Appoint two people to co-lead, or appoint one Lead and one Vice
Lead. That way there's some kind
Marius Mauch wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:15:18 -0400
Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marius Mauch wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:53:32 -0400
Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance Albertson wrote:
I thought of that while I was walking to a meeting..heh
Alec Warner wrote:
Paul de Vrieze wrote:
On Thursday 24 August 2006 20:46, Alec Warner wrote:
Robert Cernansky wrote:
What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like
xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write
plugins for lot of things. This is why
Richard Fish wrote:
On 9/2/06, Wiktor Wandachowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suppose that there is a way that Gentoo can follow, only that its
leaders,
developers and users need to see it clearly. Is there a publicly visible
page that contains current goals for new releases? Where all
Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote:
Simon Stelling wrote:
Edgar Hucek wrote:
I know my tools but not necessarly the normal user who wanna use gentoo
and is ending frustrated.
If the users are too lazy to read the documentation, why should we care
about them?
Because we risk that Gentoo may receive
John Mylchreest wrote:
Hi Guys,
I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and
not least Javier Villavicencio.
Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects
Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming
from Argentina he has
Alistair Bush wrote:
I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the
projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily
outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org
So lets me start with a couple of obvious ones.
René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
Am 28.03.2010 10:30, schrieb Luis Francisco Araujo:
himerge
Hey :P - you are a gentoo dev :P
I think probably most of the app-portage category falls in here (as
portage is the only gentoo-specific thing one can develop stuff for):
eix, etc-proposals
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Hey all,
I've been wanting a GUI for eselect lately, so tonight I hacked up the
start of one called eselect_zenity [1]. It only works for the most
trivial modules so far -- it has to parse eselect output, so special
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Hello,
A brief summary about the Gentoo GUIs project:
1 - Markus (jokey) recently released a new version of Maintainer-Helper.
It already has the basic operations running and some people are working
in a Gtk+ port.
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Felipe Contreras wrote:
| On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On 2/20/08, Felipe Contreras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|b) Error are difficult to handle since bash doesn't have exceptions
|
| I disagree here:
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Petteri Räty wrote:
| Hailing from the Venezuela, more precisely Caracas, we have Ricardo
| ricmm Mendoza. When he's not fighting in the jungles, he likes to play
| around with those expensive paper weights that some people call mips
| computers.
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Well, a package that probably most of you didn't even know it existed
anyway.
I am currently masking (just for protocol) this package and will be
removing it from portage within 30 days.
This is a binary and annoying package introducing many bugs,
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:54:48 +0200
| Mateusz A. Mierzwin'ski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| And I strongly suggest to leave old mechanism of portage, because we
| saw couple times what _GREAT_ automatic makes with distro - eg.
|
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Ulrich Mueller wrote:
| On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
|
| | One other thing is that it is sometimes difficult to figure out to
| | whom a bug should be assigned, because metadata.xml for many packages
| | simply isn't clear
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Tiziano Müller wrote:
| Marius Mauch wrote:
|
| Moving the discussion to -dev per leios request.
|
| On Wed, 21 May 2008 23:42:19 +0200
| Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| As this topic jus came up in #-dev, and most people there seemed to
|
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Samuli Suominen wrote:
| # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (05 Jun 2008)
| # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners.
| # Replaced by USE libffi in sys-devel/gcc. Bug 163724.
| dev-libs/libffi
| dev-lang/squeak
| x11-libs/gtk-server
|
|
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David Leverton wrote:
| On Thursday 05 June 2008 19:21:24 Albert Zeyer wrote:
| Are you sure that Squeak really depends on libffi?
|
| I just compiled it (squeak-3.9.7) fine without having libffi on my
| system and with disabled libffi USE-flag.
|
|
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Jeroen Roovers wrote:
| -
| 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request?
|
|
It's generally fine with me; though I would handle it differently
depending upon the situation.
For example, sometimes these version bumps
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Zac Medico wrote:
| Hi everyone,
|
| It might good to add support for a new RESTRICT=live value in
| ebuilds. By specifying this value, an ebuild would be able to
| indicate that it uses src_unpack() to download sources from some
| type of live
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René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
| Zac Medico schrieb:
| Well, RESTRICT has long since evolved into a rather generic set of
| boolean flags and it's quite useful as such. I don't see any need
| for artificial limitations on what types of flags go there.
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Robin H. Johnson wrote:
| Hi folks,
|
| Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves
| replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of
| channels.
|
| Getting the bot out there
| -
|
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
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Robin H. Johnson wrote:
| Hi folks,
|
| Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves
| replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of
| channels.
|
Please join #gentoo-bo
Hello there,
This email is to ask for suggestions about bug #163724 , I am myself one
of the maintainer of several packages depending upon such a library, and
the current situation isn't helping too much to decide how to handle
such a packages.
As we all know, the independent libffi project
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:20 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote:
With the increase in developer and project overlays, I see the
possibility for reducing work needed to maintain many packages. As
Natanael Copa, it would be nice for him to be able to maintain packages
without having
Luca Barbato wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
It's offering incentives to get as many commits as possible. The
easiest way to get as many commits as possible is to go on a mass
keywording or stabling spree. It'd be very easy for someone to do a
Manson -- do you really think no-one would? Even if
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m h wrote:
Other than a text editor?
I'd like to have a tool that can add USE flags on a per package or
global level. (I'm doing this in some build scripts and would prefer
just to have a tool, rather than sed or some other shell hackery).
I
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Test .. ignore
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Luis F. Araujo araujo at gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux
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Hello World!
I want to ask for suggestions and opinions for the best way to handle
this bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158434
I am usually very hesitant to add new use flags to the tree (unless they
are *really* necessary or imply a great advantage.) ; though i am not
sure
Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 05 February 2007, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
I am usually very hesitant to add new use flags to the tree (unless they
are *really* necessary or imply a great advantage.) ; though i am not
sure here if anybody else would consider this a good recommendation
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a number of projects I'll never get
to, but I'd really like them to happen anyway. I suggest we create some
sort of page that aggregates all of these personal projects together,
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Bryan Østergaard wrote:
It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
retiring from
Gentoo.
I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
pretend that I've made some important contributions to
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Kumba wrote:
So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the
flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the
IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and
others (i.e.,
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cilly wrote:
On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
Known to be buggy versions.
Of course, there are bugs in every version. Sometimes a user must be
able to choose which bug is more problematic, i.e. the bug in the newer
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George Shapovalov wrote:
Sunday, 17. June 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) Ви написали:
I've encountered a few cases where the build process requires building and
installing something and then using that to build something else. Is there
a standard
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Mart Raudsepp wrote:
Hey,
On E, 2007-06-18 at 11:34 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Also, remember that stabilization is *supposed* to be about the
stabilization of the *ebuild* and not the *package* itself.
This sentence made me personally
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Denis Dupeyron wrote:
Please everybody welcome our new developer Santiago M. Mola, aka
coldwind. He is joining us from Alicante, Spain and is studying
Computer Science in Valencia. His main interests are hanging out with
friends at obscure pubs,
Steve Long wrote:
Petteri Räty wrote:
It's a joint pleasure for me and diox to introduce to you Pierre-Yves
py Rofes. Instead of the snake people he will be joining our security
team. Py originates from Paris, France, and has just finished his
studies in computer science. He'll be hired
Kumba wrote:
Ryan Hill wrote:
Torsten Veller wrote:
| for the quick low down:
| - nominations are from July 1 through July 31
| - anyone can nominate
| - only Gentoo devs may be nominated
| | so get with the nominating people !
I noticed Kumba isn't nominated, so I'll throw him into
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
More and more, I am finding developers who are afraid to touch packages
for even minor things if they're not the maintainer. This is a sad
state of affairs and not the reason we have maintainers. We have
maintainers to
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Christian Faulhammer wrote:
Hi,
Maybe some of you have already seen app-portage/maintainer-helper from
Jokey. It is written for Qt, but I was just happy to replace the last
Qt app with something agnostic/GTK+ based on my system. Unluckily I
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Hello,
A group of our developers and i have felt the need of working around a
new goal inside Gentoo: Graphical User Interfaces (GUI).
Though Gentoo has been considered a very command line interface oriented
system; we believe there is always room
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Marius Mauch wrote:
You should rename 'himerge' to YAPG (yet another portage GUI). Is there
a particular reason why you couldn't reuse one of the already
established ones (kuroo, porthole, portato, ...)?
Marius
himerge is not really new ;
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 04:53 Mon 03 Sep , Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
Our main idea is to develop and collect all the necessary applications
to offer GUI's (keeping Gentoo flexibility) for most of our system
tasks, offering an alternative
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Benjamin Gramlich wrote:
From what I can tell the goal is to make GUIs to programs like equery,
rc-update, eclean, etc., right? Is there a formal design process here,
or could we all just take a stab at it?
Ciao,
bg
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