Re: [gentoo-dev] Ohloh Organizations - Gentoo Linux

2012-11-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't heard back from them, maybe you can ask them what's up. This has been setup (with Donnie's help): https://www.ohloh.net/orgs/gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: Hey people, what are we going to do with bugs like: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421839 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445848 I'd like to help with things. Is the process of building livecd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the

[gentoo-dev] Wordiness

2012-12-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Do you realize that you just wrote a two-and-a-half page single-spaced thousand-word email? Seriously, this is way too much. This mailing list is way too much.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2012-12-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: My point is that you consistently write long essays that I, and apparently most others, don't bother to read. I'm not sure if you're aware of this. Someone said on IRC this morning in response to this thread the tragic thing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local bindist descriptions

2012-12-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.net wrote: All packages should have local descriptions of what the bindist USE-flag specifically does. This should be a policy when writing ebuilds that include it. Agreed. media-libs/mesa Fixed. (bug 448932)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Switching order of packages in virtual/pkgconfig

2013-01-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: i'd say never. there is no benefit in switching. pkg-config is the default implementation from freedesktop.org. pkg-config is now lighter and has less dependencies than before as the switch from bundled glib1 to glib2

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-16 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: net-wireless/b43-fwcutter-017 be my guest, although I prefer the bugs personally. That's what he's doing... asking maintainers if it's okay to open stabilization bugs for their packages.

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-16 Thread Matt Turner
honestly this list is such a tinderbox that I hardly read it. I actually missed the email at first and had to go back in the thread when I saw a lot of responses. Hence, I would prefer to get bugs than random emails that I have to search through. So ignore it and he'll open bugs just the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: So you want to re-implement multilib-portage in an eclass without the additional benefits a package-manager level implementation has? I really wish you'd just make the PMS diff and get your stuff implemented. How long has it

Re: [gentoo-dev] The gx86 multilib project -- masterplan

2013-01-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 5. Solutions to specific problems - 1. x11-proto packages Those packages install headers to /usr/include and pkg-config files to /usr/lib64. This supposedly means that the headers could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Porting ZFS to additional architectures

2013-02-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear Everyone, Does anyone have root access to Linux systems on any of the following architectures that is willing to help ZFS development? Alpha HPPA IA-64 MIPS/MIPS64 PPC/PPC64 SH SPARC/SPARC64 I want to port

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog profiles.desc

2013-02-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:02:33 + (UTC) Mike Frysinger (vapier) vap...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] + 07 Jan 2013; Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org profiles.desc: + Mark s390 profiles stable. + 06 Jan 2013; Justin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH multilib-build] Tee the build logs to ABI-specific files.

2013-02-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: This makes reading them a bit easier, especially with phases run in parallel. --- gx86/eclass/multilib-build.eclass | 7 --- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.7 unmasking

2013-02-25 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:03:01 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm going to be unmasking 4.7.2 later this week. There are still 47 open bugs blocking the 4.7 tracker, so if any are yours now would be a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically find a performance bug in malloc, you start a thread on the list about replacing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they should use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: media-tv/tvtime

2013-03-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: And what if it breaks again in the future? Should we go over the same discussion again? Can't this be restated as Shouldn't we tree clean it now since it could have bugs in the future?? Tree cleaning packages over

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT/NIT] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog package.mask

2013-04-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Er, you can't be seriously suggesting we will drop repoman checks with the migration to git? I don't see how that would benefit anyone. Interesting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Steven, I think you can behave a lot better on the internet. kthx. Amazing. I came to the exact opposite conclusion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes

2013-05-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:00:29 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: CPU use flag detection

2013-05-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:59:57 +0200 yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, I was recently investigating what cpu flags do I have and how does it work. I have put what I have so far at [1]. So I thought I let you know in case

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: CPU use flag detection

2013-05-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:31:11 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: [...] ...shouldn't mmxext be moved out of use.local.desc into use.desc? all the cpu flags should be global IMHO, regardless of how many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)

2013-05-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Perhaps this was covered already, but how exactly did this one file, added by your co-maintainer, hurt you? Did it cause additional bugs? Did it break a working ebuild? Did it kill your cat? It would seem to

[gentoo-dev] Re: toolchain update was Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for candidates for Gentoo Council 2013/2014

2013-07-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: When we then move onto stage 2, it uses just the packages built during stage1 (/tmp/stage1root becomes /). This means, if seed stage has mpc.so.0.1 but portage has since included mpc.so.2 that the gcc in stage2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: toolchain update was Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for candidates for Gentoo Council 2013/2014

2013-07-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: Yes, it does need to be rebuilt if key deps are updated. The gcc produced in the stage1 is broken, so won't run to rebuild itself during the stage2 run. But we keep the old libs around via preserve_libs, and once stage1 is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: toolchain update was Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for candidates for Gentoo Council 2013/2014

2013-07-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: You are misremembering that we are using preserve_libs to save our butts when mpc is updated and gcc is still linked to the old mpc. I feel very uncomfortable as the recommendation of preserve-libs is to remerge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: toolchain update was Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for candidates for Gentoo Council 2013/2014

2013-07-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/10/2013 10:03 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 09:27:46PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: The other thing we needed to do was completely remove the use of or building of binpkgs during the

Re: [gentoo-dev] new category: games-adventure/

2013-07-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Diego, hasufell wrote: I would object... 10 games are wa too few for a new category and especially pkg moves.. 1 app-antivirus/ 3 net-zope/ 5 x11-base/ 7 gpe-utils/ 8 app-officeext/ 11

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: toolchain-r1.eclass

2013-07-25 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: Then there is a question whether toolchain packages should use EAPI 5, EAPI=5 would be useful for both the mips team (for bug 477956) and for catalyst builders (for subslot dependencies when dealing with binary

[gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-26 Thread Matt Turner
(I sent this to gentoo-releng@. Resending to gentoo-dev@ for a wider audience) Can we make autobuilds go to /experimental and then only move them to /releases when someone actually tests them? Looking at bugzilla and listening in #gentoo-releng, it's kind of embarrassing how often someone

[gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
Hi, Any objections to me adding an ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND variable so that I can take advantage of the multilib work on mips? Thanks, Matt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:28 PM, yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: I have fully encrypted systems, including /, which requires an initramfs with cryptsetup built staticaly. Doesn't it actually require them built statically, or simply that the necessary libraries are also in the initramfs? I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: go ahead -- note that some packages have broken multilib deps though Thanks! ah, and it wont work if you dont add support to multilib-build.eclass also. Of course :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-07-29, o godz. 17:21:15 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Any objections to me adding an ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND variable so that I can take advantage of the multilib work on mips? But please sent

[gentoo-dev] media-tv/xmltv bugs

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Turner
All versions of xmltv in the tree are EAPI=0. It needs a version bump (bug 288927), an updated home page (bug 325437), and to be ported to EAPI=5 and stabilized (bug 479056). Anyone use it and want to handle these bugs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-31 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:56 -0700 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: I committed it last night before your email. # Keep it sorted. Please do not add anything without prior discussion # on gentoo-dev. n32 n64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: It doesn't help to keep so aggressively pushing it. Neither does so aggressively pushing against it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit userland with 64bit toolchain (via, say, setting ABI_X86=32 in make.conf) using the eclasses is just outright not ever going to happen? Never mind not supporting it, but essentially

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd team consensus?

2013-08-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote: Le dimanche 11 août 2013 à 22:09 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit : On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general progress

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, It's time of year again to consider moving a few arches to dev-only status. I propose the following arches to lose their stable keywords - s390 - sh - ia64 - alpha - m68k - sparc I want some level between

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: The proposal is to drop stable keywords on arches that cannot keep up. Do you feel this is not the case on alpha? I'm not sure if that's my claim. I'm worried because I think it might be a disaster for alpha (and perhaps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Is there an alternative? afaik a profile can be either stable,dev or exp. I can't see how we can implement something between stable and dev. And what would that represent? It may or may not be stable? If this is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New license: Adaptec

2013-08-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: The license contains nasty clauses like this: If you are a European Consumer you must not export Software outside the country in which you download it without our prior written permission. I.e., if you install the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Minor arches (was: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-09-10)

2013-09-17 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 15 Sep 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: I didn't really get any response to this one way or another. At the last council meeting a majority of the votes were in favor of delaying taking action, so this is back on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: FEATURES=binchecks strip for plain file packages e.g. latex, perl, python

2013-09-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Justin (jlec) j...@gentoo.org wrote: what is your opinion to set FEATURES=binchecks strip for all those packages which purely install files. For example python package only installing scripts, or perl packages or latex. There might be more. It may help to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: I was not suggesting inlining the list into the dependency but only inlining the USE-flag into the (single) perl ebuild. Currently if I have a package which needs e.g. Term-ANSI-Color, but not in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag neon for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2011-12-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Samuli Suominen posted on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:03:41 +0200 as excerpted: i'll add USE=neon to use.desc and punt the local descriptions if nobody objects media-libs/libpng: support ARM NEON cpu instruction set

Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdrev mingw 64 bit

2012-01-13 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Dmitrij K kdi...@live.ru wrote: Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 10 of January 2012 03:34:06 Dmitrij K wrote: Dear developers of crossdev. Can you realize --target mingw64 (for creating windows app 64 bit) (like mingw-w64.sourceforge.net)? And can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:00:52 -0500 as excerpted: On Wednesday 18 January 2012 21:42:14 Michael Weber wrote: Um, what happend to the policy to not f*** around with stable ebuilds? take a chill pill phil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-sound/minitunes

2012-01-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: # Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org (21 Jan 2012) # Package renamed to media-sound/musique # http://flavio.tordini.org/minitunes-renamed-to-musique # Removal in 30 days media-sound/minitunes Is it normal to wipe

Re: [gentoo-dev] The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM, ross smith gaur...@gmail.com wrote: The line above is not prompting you to turn on the nettle use flag, which appears to already be on.  It's prompting you to add the gmp use flag for dev-libs/nettle. Which looks like it's on as well. In either case -- this

Re: [gentoo-dev] profiles/features/64bit-native/package.use.mask contents redundancy

2012-02-13 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: some mips profiles are scary too:    http://dev.gentoo.org/~slyfox/profiles_mips.png Weird. I'll take a look at that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:34:14 +0100 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed before but, what issues are preventing us from unmasking gcc-4.6 (and think on a near stabilization)? I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] lurking *.ebuild'less packages

2012-03-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: slep noticed and reported an odd thing: $ euse -i kate ... ls: cannot access /gentoo/portage/metadata/cache/kde-base/kdebindings-perl-*: No such file or directory ls: cannot access

[gentoo-dev] Change USE flags when compiling with FEATURES=test

2012-03-17 Thread Matt Turner
So you run set FEATURES=test to run a package's test suite during keywording. Later, you emerge -vuNDa ... and portage wants to reemerge that package with USE=-test. Can't we avoid this somehow? I presume in the vast majority of cases emerging with FEATURES/USE=test doesn't actually affect what's

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: On 03/30/12 17:15, Joshua Kinard wrote: Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0? I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ocamlopt unmask on arm

2012-04-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear All, I have just emerged ocaml-3.12.0[ocamlopt] on arm and used it to compile mldonkey[ocamlopt]. It seems to work well. it was masked on Apr 18, 2010, , | /usr/portage/profiles$ grep -n -B3 ocamlopt ./arch/arm/use.mask

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo

2012-04-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: What is the plan for platforms that are not supported by libturbo? It's not that they're not supported, just that libjpeg-turbo doesn't have optimized routines for them. It'll still run fine. (Check the keywords, you'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't followed the prev. conversation but what's wrong with a USE flag for SSE2? We already have SSE2 flags, even global.. That's not it. The flash binary uses SSE2 instructions without checking for their presence,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: wouldnt adding a sse2 useflag and putting it in REQUIRED_USE solve the problem ? afaik portage wont even try to upgrade if people have -sse2 If that works, which I think it will, that does sound like the best thing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: doing it wrong.  I don't like how Google develops Android in the dark, or that they bundle 1GB of third-party stuff in their Chromium source and distribute a favored

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/26/12 at 06:00PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:04:08 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: Arg, no.  Please just print the warning if the host doesn't do SSE2. There's no reason to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible lastrite of sys-fs/rar2fs (waiting for upstream reaction)

2012-05-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (05 May 2012) # Broken with unrar-4.2.1 wrt upstream ticket of: # http://code.google.com/p/rar2fs/issues/detail?id=10 # Either waiting for fixed release, or the package will # be

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 2. Arches were Git repos are too heavy (Kumba wanted this for MIPS) Please don't go to this trouble for the ability to commit to portage on *really* slow systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:45:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:43:10 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: It treats -r300 as being newer than -r200, and so will

Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5))

2012-06-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- packages and also because multilib is pretty important for mips. If a package has dependencies, then those dependencies are required to have at least the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Matt Turner schrieb: I suppose that's just for ease of implementation? Not having to special-case packages that don't install binaries. I dont follow. Did you think about only having additional ABI flags for certain cases

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make connman a global USE flag

2012-07-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Several packages are using it with the same sense (support connman), maybe we should move it from local to global USEs, what do you think? Off-topic question, but how is connman related to NetworkManager? Is it an alternative,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept

2012-09-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Since DEPENDENCIES hasn't been written up in a Gentoo-friendly manner, and since the Exherbo documentation doesn't seem to suffice to explain the idea here, here's some more details on the DEPENDENCIES

Re: [gentoo-dev] example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies

2012-09-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: 1) 746 hits in the tree for COMMON_DEPEND; that's 2%, and the usages I'm aware of have been for literally, what it sounds like- depends that are both DEPEND and RDEPEND. CDEPEND is pretty common as well. I could 466 files

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Readability is more important, and there I still don't buy the argument that the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Matt Turner wrote: From the other thread (example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies): [Sorry, I've missed this one in the other thread, so replying here.] 4

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 14:01, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. Thanks a lot, Michał! This looks good to me. Use case: xorg packages, ask Matt. So the idea is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 22/09/2012 18:54, Matt Turner wrote: I'd like to add multilib USE flags to Mesa and thus its dependencies. I realized that almost everything in x11-libs/ could be converted very easily, which would allow us

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 22/09/2012 20:42, Matt Turner wrote: I think this means make 32-bit binary packages' dependencies on amd64 not use the emul- packages? If so, that'd certainly be a component of getting rid of emul-linux-x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I prefer the stronger solution. This is just a quick workaround. And I'd prefer if people who aren't involved with what I'm working on don't try to block my progress. I appreciate your opinion, and truthfully I'd just rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Matt Turner schrieb: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: One problem that I remembered now: If every ebuild inheritting this eclass (either this one or similar) will add a multilib USE, people running multilib profiles will get it enabled for ALL packages inheritting it, causing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:10:21 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:59:14 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:51:27 +0200 Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install media be replaced with pbzip2. It was closed a short while later, telling me that it'd involve changing what's kept in @system, and that had to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-17 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: As I posted elsewhere, working on a project based on hate only lasts so long. I should know, that's the reason I started udev in the first place over 9 years ago. The Xfree86 people generated a lot of hate, just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Richard Yao posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:35:22 -0500 as excerpted: Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an optional dependency,

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/18/2012 11:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement. How can we define a mission statement when we are still in the process of understanding the codebase, what it does

[gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Turner
Hi, I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. What's the best method to go about doing this? Stabilize the system packages, then remove ~mips from ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the profiles? Should we target package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:00:00PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. Out of interest, what MIPS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:40:03PM +0800, David Nelson wrote: A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently do re-branding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: STMicroelectronics MIPS systems (Lemote, Gdium, etc) are becoming more common, and we should definitely do a better job supporting them. (I should mention that I've been loaned a Yeelong by Daniel Clark, of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:37:51 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Panagiotis Christopoulos pchr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11:20 Mon 15 Nov     , Christian Faulhammer wrote:  I don't want to stop you, but you are relatively new to the real keywording business.  amd64 at a point had over 30 members and could not work on the

[gentoo-dev] IUSE=minimal seems like a bad idea

2010-11-20 Thread Matt Turner
matts...@sempron /usr/portage $ egrep -l 'IUSE=.*minimal' `find -name '*.ebuild'` ^ shows lots of ebuilds with IUSE=minimal. Instead of having a minimal use flag for these packages, shouldn't we have, possibly local, use flags for whatever feature(s) the minimal flag turns off? Thanks, Matt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer notes in metadata.xml?

2010-11-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if we have space already, or if others would feel strongly about making space for, maintainer notes in packages'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move x86/amd64 CPU extensions USE flags to a new USE_EXPAND variable

2010-12-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: [snip] I agree that this could be better. To me, most of the problems with this are due to users not knowing which of these should be set for their particular CPU. Instead of having defaults set by a profile, I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 118 bugs

2010-12-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: By the way, we have a nice team of arch and herd testers - how about encouraging them to wrangle some bugs? Yeah, I just came here to say this. One certainly doesn't need to have completed the developer quizzes to

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