Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new eclass - pkgconfig.eclass

2012-11-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le mercredi 28 novembre 2012 à 22:49 +0100, Justin a écrit : Solution: Create them by hand. The solution is to tell *upstream* how to build and ship .pc files with their build system. If we start shipping .pc files no one else has, projects that use such libraries will have only 2 choices: -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion (Meinungsbild) on some feature

2013-01-21 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi Andreas, Le dimanche 20 janvier 2013 à 16:20 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel a écrit : So, a thread like Should we enable useflag Z by default would then include Please discuss here, vote on ... with a link to the count page (updated via cron every 1h). On login to ..., a message similar to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-18 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le dimanche 17 février 2013 à 22:47 -0600, Ryan Hill a écrit : Even after you do that it's hard to figure out what firmware files you actually need. I know I need iwl6000 firmware for Intel Ultimate-N 6300 wifi, but linux-firmware contains: iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode iwlwifi-6000g2a-5.ucode

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le vendredi 26 juillet 2013 à 21:19 -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. a écrit : The real question is, how realistic can we make a process of testing and moving to stable? We have arch teams, we have users... when several users say it's OK I think it is OK. As compared to a script pushing it to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-24 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le mardi 20 août 2013 à 12:26 +0200, Michał Górny a écrit : 3. FEATURES=ipc-sandbox Requires: CONFIG_NAMESPACES, CONFIG_IPC_NS Applies to: src_* This one separates the ebuild's *nix IPC stuff from host. This includes semaphores, shared memory etc. Similarly to network-sandbox, this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should that file be a License ?

2009-02-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 27/02/2009 06:32, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : bump. Can anyone help out here? Is it a license or a doc? I would say it is in fact a license, but since all it seems to do is to confirm that whatever GnuGk does under the GPLv2 is allowed, I wouldn't necessarily put it in the license dir. But do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
My 2¢ : Keep the EAPI inside the ebuild itself. On the first line, on the fifth line, as an argument with the shebang, as a comment, as a variable, as a function call, ... I really don't care what it looks like, as long as it's inside the ebuild. Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using -frecord-gcc-switches

2009-03-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/03/2009 07:33, Donnie Berkholz a écrit : Thoughts? Could we do something useful with this? What about the various objects that make up the final lib/binary? How is this handled? Looks like a promising idea though Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git eclass update

2009-03-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Tomáš Chvátal a écrit : Hi, I am currently messing with git.eclass and i would like to see some other sets of eyes on it. I am throwing in full new eclass [1] and its diff [2]. I will be really happy for comments and even more for diffs :D Oh and by the way, the diff looks nice to me. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git eclass update

2009-03-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Tomáš Chvátal a écrit : Hi, I am currently messing with git.eclass and i would like to see some other sets of eyes on it. I am throwing in full new eclass [1] and its diff [2]. I will be really happy for comments and even more for diffs :D Does/Can it fix bug #247187 ? Or is it something

Re: [gentoo-dev] x-modular.eclass: A modified approach to EAPI support

2009-03-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/03/2009 21:57, Donnie Berkholz a écrit : Any thoughts? Looks pretty good to me. I don't have much else to say :) Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 07/03/2009 09:10, Caleb Cushing a écrit : If you had really been prepared you already had 2 or more janitors. While I really appreciate you comparing us to janitors, ... the answer is not to fire people, but not to be as reliant on single points of failure. if you make it more than 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages needing manitainer

2009-03-08 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 08/03/2009 21:38, Tomáš Chvátal a écrit : net-misc/mDNSResponder How about dropping this one in favor of avahi? Or am I missing something obvious? Cheers :) Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review - 2

2009-03-09 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 09/03/2009 02:50, Donnie Berkholz a écrit : On 14:09 Tue 03 Mar , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:13:34 Peter Volkov wrote: Could you just use dosed here? dosed needs to die. Why? Because it's utterly pointless and exists only for legacy reasons. Few packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo is and will remain Free Software

2009-03-12 Thread Rémi Cardona
, including fonts. With the latest patches in =x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r3, X can work _without_ any fonts at all. Old apps and toolkits (xterm, motif, tk, Xaw, ...) will look ugly as hell but they should work. In a nutshell, don't use the xorg-x11 meta. Cheers -- Rémi Cardona LRI, INRIA remi.card

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo is and will remain Free Software

2009-03-12 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 12/03/2009 17:21, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) a écrit : Do you mean: 1) don't use the xorg-x11 meta if you don't want not-completely-free fonts or 2) don't ever use the xorg-x11 meta ? A little bit of both. :) Unlike the Gnome or KDE meta, most of the stuff in the xorg-x11 meta is useless

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 16/03/2009 23:59, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit : * RDEPEND=DEPEND is still in. Again, was a decision reached? Imho it would be about time to kill implicit build time dependency assignment. +1, let's rip it out. Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make the policykit USE flag global

2009-03-19 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 19/03/2009 15:23, Robert Piasek a écrit : Feel the trend? gnome-base/gnome-panel will follow soon. Lets make this global. Unless we decide that PolicyKit is the future and make it compulsory). If no one complains, I will make the changes in a couple days. That seems reasonable. ACK from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make the policykit USE flag global

2009-03-19 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 19/03/2009 19:12, Doug Goldstein a écrit : The problem would be a simple fix if PolicyKit supported groups and we could just say give all access to those in the wheel group as a reasonable default. But alas, it does not. Arguably we can probably patch that in and just be done with it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-22 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 22/03/2009 19:22, Nirbheek Chauhan a écrit : The ${PV} in the patch name is a quick indication of the age of a patch, the gnome herd especially *encourages* this behavior. What I used to do back when I was still bumping packages in the Gnome Herd, I would version the patch, but I would use

[gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-30 Thread Rémi Cardona
of dupes. Thanks to everyone who helped test this release, it saved me a lot of headaches. Cheers Rémi -- Rémi Cardona LRI, INRIA remi.card...@lri.fr r...@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-30 Thread Rémi Cardona
of dupes. Thanks to everyone who helped test this release, it saved me a lot of headaches. Cheers Rémi -- Rémi Cardona LRI, INRIA remi.card...@lri.fr r...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.5.3 is going stable

2009-03-31 Thread Rémi Cardona
Simon C. Ion a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rémi Cardona wrote: The Upgrade Guide is located at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml The upgrade guide indicates that one should use a .fdi file for the linuxwacom driver. IIRC

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item review: X.org server upgrade

2009-04-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 04/04/2009 00:01, Christian Faulhammer a écrit : please see attached news item for review. The wording is fine. Signed-off-by: Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/04/2009 16:47, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we don't want it exposed to the users. Just of

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ulrich Mueller a écrit : More translations are welcome. en: The www-plugins category contains plugins for Web browsers. de: Die Kategorie www-plugins enthält Plugins für Webbrowser. fr: Cette catégorie contient des plugins pour navigateurs Web. Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Gilles Dartiguelongue a écrit : Le lundi 06 avril 2009 à 08:32 +0200, Rémi Cardona a écrit : Ulrich Mueller a écrit : More translations are welcome. en: The www-plugins category contains plugins for Web browsers. de: Die Kategorie www-plugins enthält Plugins für Webbrowser. fr: Cette

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2009-04-08 Thread Rémi Cardona
Mike Frysinger a écrit : This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). I'd like for the Council to discuss a migration plan from old

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-3 draft: slot operator support

2009-04-09 Thread Rémi Cardona
Mart Raudsepp a écrit : Hello, This thread is for any discussion about the slot operator support item in EAPI-3 draft. Could anyone actually give a good reason for slot operators? What packages would have a _clear_ benefit from using them? I'm asking for an actual list of packages, not

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2009-04-09 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 09/04/2009 20:38, Donnie Berkholz a écrit : I don't particularly wish for this to happen Real Soon, but drafting a plan sounds like a good first step. OK, I'm looking forward to reading your draft. =) 1) migrate 2) party I don't really see what else should be in between steps 1 and 2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] On git and pushing official gentoo branches

2009-04-26 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/04/2009 23:55, Gilles Dartiguelongue a écrit : Hello list, As many of you might already know, gnome switched to git about 2 weeks ago so I'd like to take a pick at what people do concerning upstream using git. How do you present patches you maintain for gentoo to upstream ? Own maintained

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Petteri Räty a écrit : Currently we really don't need to fail that many people as those who end up at that point in the process almost always have good enough skills as they have contributed via overlays for quite a while. Ditto on that. Most recruits I've been actively watching these past few

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: a bunch of X stuff no one should be using since 1994

2009-05-08 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (09 May 2009) # Low-Bandwidth X and the X Proxy Management stuff has been declared # dead since last century. All of those will be gone in 30 days x11-apps/lbxproxy x11-apps/proxymngr x11-apps/xfindproxy x11-apps/xfwp x11-apps/xrx x11-proto/xproxymanagementprotocol

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: a bunch of X stuff no one should be using since 1994

2009-05-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 09/05/2009 13:05, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 � wrote: # R�mi Cardonar...@gentoo.org (09 May 2009) # XPrint is dead, long live XPrint For kings I understand this comment, but can you explain how it applies to XPrint? The replacement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries

2009-05-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/05/2009 08:49, Christian Faulhammer a écrit : Hi, any project lead/member can post an answer to this mail for a status report: X11 Herd Status Update Short term or recently done : - 1.5.3-r5 went stable (I'm sure y'all noticed) - there will be another 1.5 stable server within a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries

2009-05-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 10/05/2009 23:43, Gokdeniz Karadag a écrit : It seems like you have forgotten the link. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267769 Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] about gold bugs

2009-05-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/05/2009 23:20, Ryan Hill a écrit : Could I ask that people stop closing bugs against the gold linker with such classy witticisms as patches welcome. Honestly, a little heads up before gold hit portage would have been nice too. I already had 2 bugs with gold-related issues even before

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/05/2009 22:43, Sérgio Almeida a écrit : Hello, There isn't yet. The code is still pretty ugly and I'm still refactoring to the new architecture before I can make it public (or even officially git it). I will post it on this mailing list as soon as experimentations are possible. Please

[gentoo-dev] Enough about GLEP5{4,5}

2009-06-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Seriously, let's stop. This endless debate has gone on for waaay too long and it is just plain spam now. I'm just too tired of reading those endless discussions that are going _nowhere_. Let's just all agree we've failed to reach a consensus and let's spend time on something else.

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ned Ludd a écrit : [snip, lots of insightful stuff I either agree with or don't really understand] So lets have some damn fun again !...@#$ _That_ I whole heartedly agree with. Please, all of you in the new council, try to keep this in mind :) Thanks Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify cdda and cdaudio USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 05/07/2009 03:12, Sebastian Pipping a écrit : Lars Wendler wrote: So what do you think? Should we convert the bug into a tracker and open bugs for any package using the USE-flag that should be converted into the other one? +1 from me, sounds reasonable. Ditto, sounds good. And now for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated aim is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop poisoning the atmosphere. Then _please_ for the love of God just _ignore_ him. Thank you

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: 14 X input drivers

2009-07-13 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (13 Jul 2009) # broken and unmaintained by upstream, masked for removal in 30 days # see bug #277521 for more info x11-drivers/xf86-input-calcomp x11-drivers/xf86-input-digitaledge x11-drivers/xf86-input-dmc x11-drivers/xf86-input-dynapro x11-drivers/xf86-input

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: 14 X input drivers

2009-07-13 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 13/07/2009 16:56, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) a écrit : Why were they marked unsupported by upstream? Is there a replacement, are they no longer needed, some other reason? Some are now supported by the kernel. For the rest, nobody owns the hardware anymore. (ur98 is for a head-tracker... does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: 14 X input drivers

2009-07-14 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 13/07/2009 19:22, Robert Buchholz a écrit : We're using the x11-drivers/xf86-input-microtouch for a cash register. It works fine, but I think the machine is still on Xorg Server 1.3. I don't have the capacity to maintain this driver myself, but it seems bug #276615 has a patch, so I wonder

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-18 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 18/08/2009 03:30, Steven J Long a écrit : [snip] Steven, This thread was dead for more than 4 days. Yet you pick it up and you try to pick a fight with Ciaran. I for one am tired of your behavior on this list and I will not hesitate to contact UserRel to get you out of this list if you

[gentoo-dev] Unmasking of libxcb 1.4 and related libs in !2008.0 profiles

2009-08-18 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi all, Just a quick heads up that I have just unmasked x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 and its companion libraries in all profiles _except_ 2008.0. As some of you have already found out, since 1.2, libxcb stopped shipping a very specific library: libxcb-xlib.so. This library was only ever meant to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking of libxcb 1.4 and related libs in !2008.0 profiles

2009-08-19 Thread Rémi Cardona
Paul de Vrieze a écrit : As a service to users, you might want to create an empty library: touch foo.c gcc -shared foo.c -o libxcb-x11.so.0.0.0 That's all Like Samuli said, it's a hack and doing that would be wrong. I will not trade short-term peace of mind for a long term hell for whoever

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag mp4

2009-08-21 Thread Rémi Cardona
Samuli Suominen a écrit : description: Support for MP4 container format [+ C ] mp4 (media-sound/amarok): Build the TagLib plugin for writing tags in Mp4 container files (m4a). Please note that by enabling this USE flag, the resulting package will not be redistributable, as it links to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 LiveDVD release enhancements

2009-08-23 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 23/08/2009 11:02, Chip Parker a écrit : On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Alexey Shvetsovale...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all! Also i think it wil be good idea to include parted into liveDVD since its only tool that support gpt partition tables =) +1 On this one. Since parted comes with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-08-31 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 01/09/2009 00:12, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : Hi, As you should know, GLEP 23 [1] introduced USE flags conditions in LICENSE variable and || operator in addition of licenses groups and ACCEPT_LICENSE variable. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0023.html /me still thinks LICENSE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/09/2009 23:10, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : Duncan wrote: Sebastian Pipping posted on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:49 +0200 as excerpted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ or so, instead? That would be transparent and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/09/2009 23:27, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : But the content of the license is the same. That only means you can use a newer one. I mean we do not need a new license file for that. It's up to upstream to write somewhere if it's GPL-2 or GPL-2+, am I right ? Yes, that's for upstream to figure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 04/09/2009 20:52, David Leverton a écrit : Is that really a problem? To me, it's not. :) I admit to not being around for the original design decisions, but I would assume that the purpose of having LICENSE in ebuilds is to tell users what licence the package is under (whether or not it's

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-plugins/gnash

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (04 Sep 2009) # Masked for removal in 60 days, old and unmaintained in Gentoo # Uses removed VIDEO_CARDS flag (see bug #282981) www-plugins/gnash Cheers, Rémi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: www-plugins/gnash

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 04/09/2009 22:41, Andrew John Hughes a écrit : So there'll be no Free Flash support in Gentoo any more? I hope someone will pick this up, this is a high priority FSF project after all. There's media-libs/swfdec that's still offically maintained by the Gnome herd. As far as gnash is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: www-plugins/gnash

2009-09-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 05/09/2009 11:25, Duncan a écrit : [...] This is off-topic for gentoo-dev. Please continue this discussion in private. Thanks Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/09/2009 02:34, Thomas Anderson a écrit : Ciaran's really not making homework up for gentoo. Why, remi stated himself that we have homework to do(and we sometimes don't do that homework) I did, but I also stated upstream might have some homework to do themselves. Here's a list of things

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI and system packages

2009-09-20 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 20/09/2009 02:31, Ryan Hill a écrit : If not, when can we drop support for old EAPIs? Your opinions please. Let's drop it now. We've waited long enough. Portage with EAPI=2 has been stable for more than a year. Rémi

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: opengl-manpages, xorg-docs, xorg-sgml-doctools

2009-09-22 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (19 Sep 2009) # Outdated and useless X doc packages # Masked for removal in 30 days app-doc/opengl-manpages app-doc/xorg-sgml-doctools app-doc/xorg-docs Before anyone asks, opengl-manpages is a snapshot for Dec '00. The online documentation at opengl.org is much

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-python/pyxf86config and dev-python/rhpxl

2009-09-24 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (24 Sep 2009) # Both require xorg-server's libxf86config library which is busted # and they both have no maintainer. See bug #222683 # Masked for removal in 30 days dev-python/pyxf86config dev-python/rhpxl Cheers, Rémi

[gentoo-dev] Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-01 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi guys, Could anyone write up a one-liner news item for the xorg-server 1.6 stabilization with there 2 upgrade guides : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml I tried figuring out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Thanks for the wording, I've somewhat made it a bit stronger. @Dev, please ACK or NAK or whatever. Thanks Title: Migration to X.org Server 1.6 and libxcb 1.4 Author: Remi Cardona r...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2009-10-02 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 02/10/2009 09:43, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Fri, 02 Oct 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: We're pleased to announce the stabilization of xorg-server-1.6. Users are strongly encouraged to read the following two guides before upgrading: GLEP 42 says that you should wrap lines at 72 columns

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 02/10/2009 10:22, Petteri Räty a écrit : Thus, at least 72 hours before a proposed news item is committed, it must be posted to the gentoo-dev mailing list and Cc:ed to p...@gentoo.org (exceptions may be made in exceptional circumstances). Any complaints — for example regarding wording,

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GNOME 2.26 upgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
this change Reviewed-by: Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org Cheers

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?

2009-10-16 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi Daniel, Le 17/10/2009 01:29, Daniel Bradshaw a écrit : So as I say, it occurs to me that most people probably follow some variation of this selective upgrade method. It might be handy to have some kind of metadata in the ebuilds that can be used to indicate a package that is demanding. Then

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-26 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit : If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list. IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with. I've always considered Gentoo to be an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-26 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/10/2009 22:58, Richard Freeman a écrit : Gentoo is about choice. No it isn't. Gentoo is about empowering users, giving them the ability and tools to _change_ the distro to _their_ needs. Gentoo does _not_ cater to all the possible needs. This is somewhat off-topic, but it irks me

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA is unimportant?

2009-11-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 09/11/2009 17:30, Patrick Lauer a écrit : Ok, here's the real problem; Unmaintained stuff is unmaintained Patrick, Just piping in to say that dropping a package from portage isn't the end of the world, we have a very good process for it and it has proven to be very effective. Dead

Re: [gentoo-dev] global USE flag description change: css

2009-11-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/11/2009 00:16, Doug Goldstein a écrit : The css USE flag currently says: Enables ripping of encrypted DVDs But that really doesn't describe the usage correctly. It enables the ability to READ encrypted DVDs. I'm going to make the change if no one objects. +1, makes perfect sense. Rémi

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: xf86-video-imstt and xf86-video-vermilion

2009-11-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (15 Nov 2009) # Broken since xorg-server 1.5 stabilization # see bugs #248529 and #248531 # Masked for removal in 7 days x11-drivers/xf86-video-imstt x11-drivers/xf86-video-vermilion 'nuff said :) Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecated eclasses

2009-11-30 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 30/11/2009 05:26, Jonathan Callen a écrit : gst-plugins.eclass ACK on this one, Gilles and I have been meaning to remove it a long time ago. Thanks for cleaning it all up :) Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

2009-12-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/12/2009 02:22, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been running with it for months and never noticed a problem.. I've been running it for more than a year on half a dozen boxes, without any issues as well. +1 for making it the default.

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc stabilization todo

2009-12-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 04/12/2009 11:41, Mike Frysinger a écrit : On Wednesday 02 December 2009 20:22:07 Jeremy Olexa wrote: Can parallel init script startup be made the default yet? I've been running with it for months and never noticed a problem.. not for stable. no point in proactively shooting our

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge -avDNut world

2009-12-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 10/12/2009 17:22, Samuli Suominen a écrit : In perfect world ~amd64 shouldn't be much different from amd64, so here's a list generated from up-to-date system (stable chroot) from today. If you maintain some of these packages, and it could go stable, please open a stablereq for it. :-) If

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-apps/{ttmkfdir,xfs,xfsinfo}

2009-12-14 Thread Rémi Cardona
# Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org (13 Dec 2009) # ttmkfdir had multiple QA issues and bugs (bugs #209616, #235354 and #262945) # xfs is completely useless, even on thin clients # and xfsinfo is useless if xfs goes x11-apps/ttmkfdir x11-apps/xfs x11-apps/xfsinfo Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/12/2009 08:09, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: On the other hand this may be something for treecleaners? A package that has not been bumped for 7 years? With at least three releases since, and a bumprequest open for at least one year? A link to a

[gentoo-dev] X license cleaning spree

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Dear all, I've started working on one of my to-do items that is usually very low-priority : cleaning up X-related licenses in portage. This is one of the last remains of the Xorg split from a few years ago. X being a big hairy mess, those who managed the transition a few years ago decided

Re: [gentoo-dev] X license cleaning spree

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/12/2009 10:35, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: And here's a list of packages that use one or more of these licenses. Please let me know if/when you've fixed them. app-editors/emacs app-editors/emacs-cvs x11-libs/openmotif x11-libs/openmotif-compat

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-16 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/12/2009 16:19, Peter Volkov a écrit : we will force all metadata.xml files have strict order of tags: first herd/ then other tags. Currently there are about 200 ebuilds with different order http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279206#c4 . Others and I actually make use of the order in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 28/12/2009 06:36, Vincent Launchbury a écrit : Hi, I recently emailed the Gentoo PR team, voicing my concerns about the amount of non-free software within Gentoo. I got an interesting response from Sebastian Pipping, who said that while Gentoo is all about choice, including the choice to

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 28/12/2009 10:10, lx...@gentoo.org a écrit : List of Gentoo bugs: 298616 298618 298620 298621 298623 298624 298626 298627 298629 298631 298633 298634 298636 298638 298640 298642 298644 298645 298646 298648 298649 298653 298654 298656 298657 298658 298659 RESOLVED -

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 28/12/2009 22:04, Fabio Erculiani a écrit : On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:51 PM, David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: On Monday 28 December 2009 20:50:17 Fabio Erculiani wrote: What all this has to do with the fact that they are just build dependencies? Just wondering. They're not

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 28/12/2009 23:53, Fabio Erculiani a écrit : Interesting, eventually somebody gave me a detailed and technical explanation without [bla bla snip]. Thanks Rémi. Yes, I agree with you that the best (and the one I would go for, too) solution is adding support to a new *DEPEND, perhaps one that

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 29/12/2009 14:43, Henry Gebhardt a écrit : 4) add a USE-flag, say devel, that, when enabled, allows compiling programs against the package. x11-libs/libXtst would have an RDEPEND like this: RDEPEND=devel? x11-libs/inputproto This doesn't solve anything. It will just annoy users as they

[gentoo-dev] Re: LibGL.la removal news item for =eselect-opengl-1.1.1-r2 going stable

2010-01-18 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 17/01/2010 12:26, Tomáš Chvátal a écrit : Howdy guys, please review the attached file and suggest updates to in. I was asked for this thing going stable due to its being dependency of new nvidia-drivers. Also this thing is probably blocker for the bug on eselect-opengl i just opened:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Calling unknown commands in an ebuild

2010-02-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 08/02/2010 03:24, Mike Frysinger a écrit : if we wanted to specifically target semi-common errors (and i think 'epatch' w/out eutils.eclass falls into this category), then a repoman check would be good. it might also be useful to add a default epatch() to the initial env that would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New eclass for x11 packages

2010-03-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 01/03/2010 11:38, Samuli Suominen a écrit : I'd prefer EAUTORECONF (as it's already used in xfconf.eclass for the same purpose, and has no reason to differ) or even SNAPSHOT, but XORG_ prefix seems redudant We decided to put the prefix to make things clearer for ebuild writers and to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-05 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/04/2010 11:50, Petteri Räty a écrit : I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a different resolution should be used. So what do you think about disabling later? I would like to avoid things

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 11/04/2010 15:16, Markos Chandras a écrit : How about the participation to the discussions which took place every day on our mailing lists or in IRC? I, for one, am actually glad that the council (as such) isn't involved in every troll fest we have on -dev, and I hope we keep it that way.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requiring two sets of eyes for all eclass commits

2010-04-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 24/04/2010 19:40, Petteri Räty a écrit : What do you think about not allowing commits to eclasses without mentioning an another developer who has reviewed and approved the diff in the commit message? There's enough people on gentoo-dev for urgent stuff too. More bureaucracy and policies

Re: [gentoo-dev] ccache causing problems

2010-04-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 29/04/2010 09:06, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. a écrit : What actions would you suggest? Don't use ccache. We (speaking as a former gnome herd member) have had countless unexplained bugs due to ccache. Now, the gnome procedure for build failures is to ask users to first disable distcc and ccache before

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does anyone use the VERIFIED status in bugzilla?

2010-05-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 14/05/2010 14:45, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto a écrit : Please share your thoughts on this so we can decide how to act on this case. X11 team doesn't use it. While some of our users do come back and close bugs as VERIFIED every now and then, it just doesn't mean anything in the team's

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass eautomake update

2010-05-25 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 25/05/2010 00:17, Mike Frysinger a écrit : so prove me wrong and post some useful feedback on the change. i'm simply being realistic. Even if you think no one will ever comment on your patches, I've seen enough projects where posting patches and doing reviews generated interest and got

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass eautomake update

2010-05-25 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 25/05/2010 09:23, Mike Frysinger a écrit : Even if you think no one will ever comment on your patches, I've seen enough projects where posting patches and doing reviews generated interest and got people to contribute. i'm just asking for proof that it's useful here And I'm asking you to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/06/2010 02:08, Sebastian Pipping a écrit : can you explain how that happens? Standard dependency resolution for packages with slots, there's nothing specific about python. Cheers, Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/traits: traits-3.4.0.ebuild

2010-06-10 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 10/06/2010 22:45, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis a écrit : 2010-06-10 22:20:44 Nirbheek Chauhan napisał(a): On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010-06-10 21:27:40 Jeremy Olexa napisał(a): I see no reason to *not* add a

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/06/2010 21:39, Enrico Weigelt a écrit : #2 One point i don't agree is the dont add -Werror rule. actually, i'm thinking of making -Wall and -Werror mandatory. if some package doenst build fine, it's simply broken. period. You're obviously new here... Just take a stroll through bugzilla

[gentoo-dev] turn the local xattr useflags into a global one ?

2007-09-23 Thread Rémi Cardona
$ euse -i xattr global use flags (searching: xattr) no matching entries found local use flags (searching: xattr) [-] xattr (app-arch/libarchive): if you want extended

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