Re: [gentoo-dev] Is the autotools mess solvable?

2006-01-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 1/11/06, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a compromise, we trade perfectly stated deps for a lot of easyness for devs.. It's not a perfect world, you all know. We do not have perfect depends in portage For example we are missing out all deps in system usually. And I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 3/21/06, Bret Towe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps having some proxys of a sort that accept patchs and such from trusted users that would commit fixes to portage would help. similiar to the kernel format that way users can 'commit'/help out quickly without having to go thru the long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 3/23/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think about it this way, what if we had two competing products in the tree that do the same thing, with the same file names? We would add a blocker, no? So what mechanism is there to ensure that there's no blocking issues between an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 3/23/06, Daniel Ostrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't have it both ways, either they are wholey Unofficial and do not get tracked in bugzilla at all (something which would have to be made VERY clear to our users, e.g. a you use it you get to keep the pieces policy, and the developer or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sandboxes

2006-03-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 3/24/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts on ideas on this somewhat more focussed idea? ( or at least I think it's more focused :P ) IMO motivation b) is not taken into account enough. You are missing out a general-user-overlay, where the developer adding a user to the access

Re: [gentoo-dev] questionable usefulness of virtual/pdfviewer,psviewer

2006-03-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
I think you are right, remove it. - Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Renewed security risk uhm Dev

2006-04-05 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 4/4/06, Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a personal pleasure to announce that Stefan Cornelius, one of the Operation Lead Developers of the Gentoo Security Project has passed all necessary quizzes to fiddle with the tree. Congratulations! Now, finally I can tell the security

[gentoo-dev] Re: xorg-server 1.0.99/1.1 ABI break

2006-04-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Donnie Berkholz wrote: The drivers cannot be upgraded until a newer server is installed. So technically, this would allow things to work by forcing people to unmerge all their drivers before upgrading, then remerge the new versions. That's not a very desirable solution either, but do you think

[gentoo-dev] Re: Maintainer wanted for app-text/pstotext

2006-05-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Do we really need this package? There is ghostscript: /usr/bin/ps2ascii as well as: /usr/bin/ps2pdf + poppler: /usr/bin/pdftotext Does that replace the functionality? - Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, there are at least two problems with how portage currently handles locales: - Firstly some packages fail to build with obscure LC_* settings The continuous stream of et_EE bugs is annoying: http://tinyurl.com/jsqzb - and secondly I get my gcc output in german when I have a german locale

[gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Marc Hildebrand wrote: Otoh LC_ALL=C could help if you intend to use a .utf-8 locale as root, though. So if it does help solving bugs and causes no trouble, why not. ok, we have prepared a patch now, so everyone can have a look at it. http://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/tmp/portage_lc_all.patch

[gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Harald van Dijk wrote: [..] encourages broken packages. et_EE breakage should be fixed, and slowly but surely is[..] That is your main problem here and I have discussed this in IRC with you and it is true in my opinion that it does not improve gentoo or make the distribution any better to close

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Marius Mauch wrote: Why does this have to be fast tracked all of a sudden? Because someone took care of it eventually and it will fix all the estonian bugs at once + allow other-LC-people like me to file bugs without having to run emerge again with LC_ALL=C. And I think it should go in as soon

[gentoo-dev] Re: New darcs.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
There is also a darcs.eclass in the zugaina overlay (available through layman) if you need some more inspiration. I think this is cool and a darcs eclass should definitely live in the tree. Please add it, so that we can start using it :) - Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-30 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Alec Warner wrote: So we created this awesome alias to put ebuilds that need a maintainer. Good idea at the time, decent idea still. The problem? We have nearly 2000 open bugs assigned to maintainer-wanted[1]. I would like to discuss policy on these. Do we keep them, do we get a group of

[gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems: -apm - only very old notebooks use apm -foomaticdb - foomaticdb is only used for development foomatic xml files. SInce most of our users do not develop printer drivers

[gentoo-dev] Re: Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: -foomaticdb - foomaticdb is only used for development foomatic xml files. SInce most of our users do not develop printer drivers I suggest making ppds a default use flag instead. Should we have ppds

[gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups - discussion status

2006-06-06 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, so the thread is getting a bit long, I will just summarize the status -apm -foomaticdb -imlib -motif -xmms Those are more or less without objections -fortran - I am dropping this request, seems fortran is meant to be default -oss - apparently people are fighting this one. Flameeyes also

[gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-07 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, I have founded a new Gentoo Project for the Gentoo User Overlay. The intention is to give contributors a single place to put their ebuilds - a place where they can be downloaded, updated and be moved to portage more easily than through bugzilla. It is also a good place for users who would

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Jon Portnoy wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct change in games team policy without any prior notice to the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
foser wrote: I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap asian poetry attempt) doesn't change that by adding it to an

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stefan Schweizer wrote: ..commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the bugzilla every time. it is actually encouraged to update bugzilla when changes are made in the overlay. Here are some more things I found in the current thread: chris It also doesn't answer the questions

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Carsten Lohrke wrote: You should at least make it visible in bold letters on the overlay.g.o front page, what the conditions of each overlay are and which [EMAIL PROTECTED] address bugs have to be assigned to. Please, do not assume our users being stupid. They know that they are using an

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Starting a new thread here for a new angle... As Stuart mentioned, bugs for any ebuild on o.g.o would go through Gentoo bugzilla. Yeah, as there is usually a bug report for maintainer-wanted and maintainer-needed bugs it wont hurt anyone. It seems like genstef and

[gentoo-dev] Re: Sunrise Project -- Sunrise FAQ

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Markus Ullmann wrote: Maybe that way we avoid any misunderstandings, nearly doubled posts and repeating ourselves over and over again. The problem is that some questions and answers easily get lost in a mailing list. To solve this shortcoming, I am starting to make a FAQ page in the trac wiki:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Chris Gianelloni wrote: Everyone that you happen to include as allowed to actually commit, you mean. As opposed to everyone that can sign themselves up for bugzilla? It is designed to be more open and more easily fixable. Sure. More open then a self-registering system. Gotcha. We

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: Fine. I highly agree on that, now my question is, why this needs to be officially supported? See Why does this have to be on official gentoo hardware? http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Sunrise Project -- Sunrise FAQ

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
James Potts wrote: I do have a question: If you're allowing just anybody who asks to have commit access to the repo, what guarantees can you give me that they won't commit something deliberately malicious or which will break the entire overlay to the overlay? I have added this to the FAQ:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Sunrise Project -- Sunrise FAQ

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Wernfried Haas wrote: - Ebuild development questions should for example be discussed in #gentoo-dev-help and I have seen threads about it on forums.gentoo.org and even helped there. There is no reason why questions about ebuild writing for the Sunrise overlay should not be treated equally.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Sunrise Project -- Sunrise FAQ

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Anders Hellgren wrote: What the faq entry didn't say, and what amne asked for in his previous e-mail was that questions related to ebuilds not distributed as part of the official tree should be posted to the Unsupported Software forum [1]. Yes We have neither reason nor desire to treat

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-10 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Markus Ullmann wrote: 2) Not one large tree but subdirs, one per herd to help herds better keeping track of which parts are alive in the overlay, each herd's ebuilds are grouped in a subdir, e.g. there will be a netmon/ dir with net-analyzer/specialapp below it. A better solution is

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-10 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:37:15 +0200 Markus Ullmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Peter wrote: Um, there are numerous new not-in-portage-tree ebuilds submitted to bz which have been assigned to teams. However, they may still languish. They were assigned by the wranglers, and not improperly. Yet, for many reasons, the bugs wait. So, will there be a mechanism for a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Dan Meltzer wrote: On 6/10/06, Markus Ullmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Not one large tree but subdirs, one per herd to help herds better keeping track of which parts are alive in the overlay, each herd's ebuilds are grouped in a subdir, e.g. there will be a netmon/ dir with

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Thanks, I have worked in your ideas and made the +CC and bug-updates clear in the HOWTO. Kind regards, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 06:53:51PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: | However, as has been pointed out several times in this thread already, | back when the devloper community agreed to the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Daniel Ostrow wrote: 3) a yes from herds required, keeping a timeout to avoid bugspam after a comment has been placed on a maintainer-wanted bug in bugzie, there's a grace time of two weeks for herds to either leave a comment on whether they're fine with take over or not. When this time is

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 15:19 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: You've broken this one before, so I just want to point it out to you again. The bug was of course discussed in IRC with the games team and the lead in advance. I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-15 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 09 June 2006 15:01, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: Everyone that you happen to include as allowed to actually commit, you mean. As opposed to everyone that can sign themselves up for bugzilla? It is designed to be more open and more

[gentoo-dev] Sunrise: way forward, semi-official, review

2006-06-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
comments and suggestions. Kind regards, Stefan Schweizer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: embedded overlay on overlays.gentoo.org

2006-06-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:04 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, solar has requested an account on overlays.gentoo.org for the embedded overlay for you. Your password: DX7wnSe40Y Kind regards, Stefan Was the list the intended recipient of this? no, of course

[gentoo-dev] Re: embedded overlay on overlays.gentoo.org

2006-06-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Ned Ludd wrote: On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:04 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, solar has requested an account on overlays.gentoo.org for the embedded overlay for you. Your password: DX7wnSe40Y think you can change my pw and lets do this offlist? lol, you have not read accurately

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, with kde4 approaching and the new Qt-4 being in the tree we suddenly see the same problems that gtk had with the gtk2 flag again. I am currently using the flags that way: [ebuild R ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.3 USE=cairo gtk qt qt4 0 kB so qt = qt3. Now that scheme will sure break

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-21 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Caleb Tennis wrote: I would personally like to stay with just the qt use flag. The use flag will be for support of whichever version of Qt is supported (v3 or v4) for the particular emerge. In the cases where more than one version is supported, it should be for Qt4 only. The Qt3 version

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-21 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Caleb Tennis wrote: On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:40, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, with kde4 approaching and the new Qt-4 being in the tree we suddenly see the same problems that gtk had with the gtk2 flag again. I think there's a lot of good thoughts surrounding how to handle

[gentoo-dev] documentation update: emake install instead of make install

2006-06-22 Thread Stefan Schweizer
to update the documentation to reflect this change. I have attached a patch to do this for skel.ebuild and sent a patch to plasmaroo for the devmanual. Is there any other documentation that needs updating? - Stefan Schweizer --- /usr/portage/skel.ebuild2006-06-20 20:05:18.0 +0200

[gentoo-dev] Re: [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-25 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luca Barbato wrote: Edward Catmur wrote: On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 13:05 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: (from critics) - What is wrong with the model (each point 2 lines at least, 4 at most) - What you'd do as alternative as the criticized point ( 2 lines again) Let me reformat a bit Critic 1

[gentoo-dev] Re: [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-06-29 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mike Frysinger wrote: after looking at some acl stuff i'm 99% sure this can be done ... so can we get this setup ? in fact, gentoo-wiki.com has a section on doing apache2/svn/dav/acls -mike anonymous checkout is already disabled for some time now: svn co

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-01 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, Can we have another Sunrise discussion please? I would love to have some feedback about Sunrise, about our progress and where we are still lacking. Thanks, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [experiment] Sunrise try 2

2006-07-01 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luca Barbato wrote: Add support for QA checkers clientside and serverside (there are precommit hooks you can use for that) That way we will avoid those smart problems as described in irc long ago. Yeah this is now supported, the script has been greatly improved by shillelagh, thanks go to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-02 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Chris Gianelloni wrote: What exactly is there to discuss about this? Evaluating our progress with hashing out the details etc. It is not an official project anymore, so the council really has no bearing on it. I'm guessing you would like for it to become an official project. correct. If I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 15:41, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:04:55PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: the entire point of these threads is to address developer concerns to that sunrise can be folded back into Gentoo Really? According to who?

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mike Frysinger wrote: - only Gentoo devs may be nominated with that limitation in mind I want to propose some developers that are doing a lot of work to improve gentoo: AllanonJL for his gnome work nichoj for the outstanding java-2 move rl03 for his devdication to webapps antarus for his

[gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag: FOO2ZJS_DEVICES

2006-07-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, As proposed in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139987 I would like to add a flag to the foo2zjs printer driver ebuild to select if everything is downloaded or only parts. This makes sense to be done in a special variable. I want to use FOO2ZJS_DEVICES because that seems to be common,

[gentoo-dev] Re: xpdf status

2006-07-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote: On Wednesday 12 July 2006 16:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really would like to see back the upstream version, what do you think? The reason for this was security I believe. xpdf code is embedded in lots of other packages (see http://glsa.gentoo.org for some

[gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, This came up in Bug 138792 [dobin etc. should automatically die on failure] It needs more discussion on the mailing lists. Some excerpts from the bug: The proposal from Paul Bredbury: Hi, I propose that the following ebuild commands themselves *die* on failure, because the vast majority of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-12 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Aron Griffis wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jul 12 2006, 01:37:44PM EDT] This came up in Bug 138792 [dobin etc. should automatically die on failure] Since do* would become functions in this case, you'll have to fix the few ebuilds that use them on the RHS of xargs. grep -r

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo dev]suggestion to distutils eclass

2006-07-16 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Zhang Le wrote: Some packages don't provide standard setup.py. Take a look at the attachment. This is a new ebuld. So my suggestion is to add a new variable to distutils.eclass, e.g. SETUP.PY, if it's set, then use it, otherwise let it defaults to setup.py. what about making a simple

[gentoo-dev] Re: pybugz - python command line interface to bugzilla

2006-07-16 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Alastair Tse wrote: I know there's gentoo-bugger, which is great, but it's in perl and I couldn't figure out how to modify the output to suit my needs. yeah gentoo-bugger was interactive, this one is better :) I really like it, thank you. Here's the README attached if you're interested in how

[gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-18 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, the herd of voip packages is constantly growing and according to herdstat -p voip we already have 60 packages in the voip herd. Those are currently in the categories net-misc, net-im, net-libs, dev-libs and media-libs. Most of them would fit perfectly into a new net-voip category. Those are

[gentoo-dev] Re: making the firefox USE flag a global one

2006-07-18 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Simon Stelling wrote: I just noticed that the USE flag 'firefox' is a local one. I think it should be global, though: Good plan. I think it should also be a default use flag on supported architectures in desktop profiles. Can we make it default at the same time? Regards, Stefan --

[gentoo-dev] Re: New category: net-voip

2006-07-18 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Ned Ludd wrote: Creation of a new categories is fine. pkg moves are bad. See the countless other posting on this subject of why pkg moves are bad. yeah new packages is my primary concern. Any objections, problems with the plan, comments? Sure I'll step up and say I object to the part of

[gentoo-dev] Removal: net-im/gnomemeeting

2006-07-18 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, net-im/gnomemeeting is obsoleted by net-im/ekiga and if no objections come up I will remove the old gnomemeeting in 30 days. I package.masked the package for now. see bug 136615 [1] for the removal request. alpha and pcc64 are asked to add their keywords to ekiga. Also the ppc64 keyword is

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for a global xinetd USE flag

2006-07-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Matthew Kennedy wrote: The following ebuilds installed xinetd configuration on my machine even though I don't have xinetd installed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ equery belongs /etc/xinetd.d [ Searching for file(s) /etc/xinetd.d in *... ] dev-util/subversion-1.3.2-r1 (/etc/xinetd.d)

[gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
To my fellow Gentoo developers and users, Sunrise is about contributing ebuilds and getting feedback and review while doing so. The main resource this currently happens for is the Gentoo User Overlay of Sunrise and second come ebuilds that get into portage afterwards In last weeks council

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Eso since when did we have the discussion where you actually addressed all of the numerous concerns brought forth right before this project was initially suspended? Do you have any concrete concerns that have not been dealt with yet? I would like to hear about

[gentoo-dev] webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi we currently have both webdav and nowebdav ueflags, this is confusing: # grep webdav /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc dev-util/git:webdav - Adds support for push'ing to HTTP repositories via DAV dev-util/subversion:nowebdav - Disables WebDAV support via neon library

[gentoo-dev] Re: proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: 3 - Users ask on this mailing list if there exist any developer interested to include X, or Y ebuild into the tree. (Probably we could create a template for this?) The user should send the ebuild changes together with the mail. Make it look like on LKML including

[gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Paul de Vrieze wrote: I'd like to explain why subversion has a nowebdav useflag. Basically one of the features of subversion is its ability to work over the http protocol. Many subversion installations use the apache module to serve subversion (even our own overlay project does). To disable

[gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Danny van Dyk wrote: 5 packages, and only one has nowebdav, and you want to make it a default USE flag? I strongly disagree here. Make it a plain useflag and notify users of subversion that the behaviour changed. Much better than informing users of the other 4 packages that the behaviour

[gentoo-dev] Re: new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mark Stier wrote: See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141806 Provides caching and release tag support for SVN. sorry - I do not see the need for a new eclass here. Can you please instead modify the subversion eclass and add support for what you want to do? Best regards, Stefan --

[gentoo-dev] repoman: check for deprecated eclasses

2006-09-01 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, Repoman needs to check for deprecated eclasses, see http://bugs.gentoo.org/141677 As a result of the discussion in the bug, we would like to add $PORTDIR/qa-data/eclass.deprecated to allow to deprecate eclasses properly and make repoman fail. This will allow us to avoid problems with new

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Then you should not have committed it - as a dev it is your responsibility to test any ebuilds your commit. There's nothing stopping you doing the normal checks on the ebuild, even if you can't read Hebrew. For example you should verify whether the '-j1' is really

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: Ok, let me see if I can get this straight.. You're saying that maintainer-needed requires less communication overhead compared to ebuilds with maintainers assigned? And that maintainer-needed is therefore better than ebuilds having maintainers. agreed. I prefer to fix

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, as requested by multiple devrel members I have written a GLEP to standardize bugzilla access for contributors. It has already been discussed on the devrel mailing list before but I am looking for a wider opinion now. This is also a submission for the new council when it meets. Best regards,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Elfyn McBratney wrote: thus that developer can request write access for them. It's worked like that for at least two years... I did that and devrel asked me to write a GLEP. If you can show me another way to do it, I would like to hear about it! I have two contributors with ebuild quiz here.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Josh Saddler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: [. . .] Define contributors -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one *become* a contributor to get these rights? This is potentially a big problem, the way I see it. As the word

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Alec Warner wrote: C. No real standard on any other fora. I don't need a GLEP to add someone to my project overlay, or grant them voice or ops in my project's IRC channel. I don't need a GLEP to get them subscribed to my mailing list and I don't need a GLEP to add them to (most) project

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Josh Saddler wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: Josh Saddler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Schweizer wrote: [. . .] Define contributors -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one *become* a contributor to get these rights? This is potentially a big

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 04 September 2006 02:45, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Josh Saddler wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: [. . .] Define contributors -- is this a special status? If it is, how does one *become* a contributor to get these rights? This is potentially a big

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Josh Saddler wrote: Because as much as possible, we need to see something concrete, not maybe an arch tester. We need to have a better definition of what when needed is and who these some people are -- think about it. Do we want a system that works like devship, but only halfway -- like you

[gentoo-dev] Re: I'm concerned about a bug (#121142, imagemagick)

2006-09-06 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Roy Marples wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 15:18, Sven Köhler wrote: There's no comment by the maintainer for a while. I wrote the patches that are needed to fix the problem. They work fine as far as i can tell. Don't feel too bad - I frequently post patches to bugs reported on the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Luca Barbato wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of maintenance is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Bryan Østergaard wrote: [..] Adding a bit of structure to it seemed like a good thing and I'd argue that the small bit of structure have helped keep the discussion on track. I talked with kloeri in private about this and a GLEP that allows giving out bugzilla access permissions by

[gentoo-dev] Sunrise trusted committers with bugzilla access

2006-09-13 Thread Stefan Schweizer
To my fellow Gentoo developers, in the Sunrise project we have some users who are ambitious and cotribute more than a few ebuilds. Those regulars have the possibility to take the ebuild quiz and acquire the title Sunrise trusted committer. Those sunrise committers can use extended bugzilla

[gentoo-dev] Re: Sunrise trusted committers with bugzilla access

2006-09-15 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Bryan Østergaard wrote: As there's been very little, if any, interest from anybody besides Stefan and Recruiters / Developer Relations I'm going to deny the contributor access idea. Recruiters and Developer Relations feels that this is a bad idea, especially seeing how hard it has been to

[gentoo-dev] list masked for removal

2008-01-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

2005-04-19 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 4/19/05, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any indication on the stability of the snapshots. I'm eager to try out all the new sugar, but do want to keep a somewhat stable system. works for 5 hours without problems on my system now :) regards, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND in fritzcapi, fcdsl

2005-04-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, USE_EXPAND is now available to be set in the profiles. I would like to use it to allow only downloading the needed drivers in SRC_URI when FRITZCAPI_CARDS or FCDSL_CARDS is set. Any comments or objections? See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84873 for the proposed ebuild. Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 5/17/05, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 16 May 2005 08:01 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:45:05 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Monday 16 May 2005 07:08 pm,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Am Montag 13 Juni 2005 20:15 schrieb Daniel Drake: Maurice van der Pot wrote: Do you have a date or thread subject or something like that? I can't find it in the archives. I would like to see some reasons why one or the other is better. I can't remember and I can't see it in the archives.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen)

2005-06-14 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Am Dienstag 14 Juni 2005 22:11 schrieb Tom Martin: [..] Please welcome Stefan on board. Regards, Tom Welcome Stefan, now you are finally able to add your work to the tree yourself, congrats! Regards, Stefan pgpOyCXAPhZbW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Notice: Changing mozilla useflag to browserplugin for all Java runtimes

2005-07-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Am Montag 11 Juli 2005 15:13 schrieb Karl Trygve Kalleberg: Hi gang, over the course of the next few days, we will finally be replacing the 'mozilla' useflag in all the Java runtimes with a new USE flag, called 'browserplugin'. Are you expecting the other browser-plugin-ebuilds to follow

[gentoo-dev] Conversion to linux-mod.eclass - deprecation of kernel-mod.eclass

2005-08-27 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, the kernel team has announced this already some time ago, but there are still some ebuilds in the tree using kernel-mod.eclass in there latest version: sci-misc/comedi/comedi-0.7.68.ebuild: herd: no-herd dev: caleb media-video/mplayer/mplayer-1.0_pre7.ebuild: herd: video

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Player, Stage, Gazebo eBuilds

2005-08-31 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 8/31/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:36:03 + Forrest Voight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is it possible for me to mantain the packages? We don't (or at least shouldn't...) give out CVS to people just for a few ebuilds. If you contribute a lot of high

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-13 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the correct prcedure of doing so? Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will ask the costumer for user and passwort setup when he first

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 10/14/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Schweizer posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200: [..] Anyone knows of something like a sysprep script for linux that will ask the costumer for user and passwort setup when he first switches

Re: [gentoo-dev] browserplugin vs. nsplugin

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 10/17/05, Aron Griffis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point I think it would still be worthwhile to repair these ebuilds to respect USE=nsplugin and drop the browserplugin from use.local.desc. Comments? Thank you for proposing it. Will solve the current confusion. Please go ahead and do

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted buglist needs attention

2005-11-03 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 11/3/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can also give you a list of people who throw hissy fits if you dare suggest that their code may be anything less than perfect... It's a pretty useful starting point for filtering out the worst of the dross... Do you have a list of people

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_{pre,post}inst misusage

2005-12-23 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Well, you should know that those are because of portage bugs or some portage peculiarity, read the corresponding bugs for example for cups to find out more. Regards, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

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