Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: El mar, 25-09-2012 a las 10:21 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:13 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: It is not hard by itself to inherit an eclass. There is just the limitation, that occurs with an eclass, e.g.: -the one from mgorny

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
a package-manager level implementation has? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
of portage git repo, ebuild in the multilib-portage overlay with very basic setup instructions in the doc dir of the overlay and the #gentoo-multilib-overlay channel in freenode for questions). -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Gilles Dartiguelongue schrieb: Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 00:01 +0100, Thomas Sachau a écrit : Michał Górny schrieb: Hello, There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. The current attempts are mostly using

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] x86 multilib flags, ver. 2

2013-01-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
or to preserve them for an non-default abi? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
, so you only have to update those entries yourself, when your key changes. ;-) -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] prune_libtool_files: make pkg-config optional, add a sed fallback.

2013-02-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
} ]]; then local pc local tf=${T}/prune-lt-files.pc - local pkgconf=$(tc-getPKG_CONFIG) + local pkgconf=$(tc-getPKG_CONFIG)1 Typo? -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/freetype: freetype-2.4.11-r1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
packages. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/freetype: freetype-2.4.11-r1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
in freetype) multilib-portage has no issues with abi-specific headers, since those are installed into a seperate abi-specific location inside /usr/include with a wrapper in the original location to not break depending packages. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
the global flags from multilib-portage as well. What are your thoughts? Once the eclass has per-ABI header and binaries support, i would see multilib-portage as fallback option for packages/arches, which dont yet have multilib support via eclass. So i am ok with the USE flag names. -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Once the eclass has per-ABI header I think this is needed. and binaries support, but here, could you enlighten me on its use cases ? I can't imagine why having multi binaries support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Once the eclass has per-ABI header I think this is needed. and binaries support, but here

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:27:50 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-07 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: dev-db/mysql abiwrapper dev-lang/perl abiwrapper dev-lang/python abiwrapper dev-lang/ruby abiwrapper dev-libs/gobject-introspection abiwrapper dev-libs/libIDL abiwrapper dev-scheme/guile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Davide Pesavento schrieb: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: dev-db/mysql abiwrapper dev-lang/perl abiwrapper dev-lang/python abiwrapper dev-lang/ruby

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:59:35 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I dont have a list of binaries, i either noticed myself some abi-specific behaviour or got user reports for abi-specific behaviour. As an example i remember, dev-libs/libIDL has a config binary

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] multilib-build: use MULTILIB_ABI for eclass-specific ABI value

2013-04-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
-compiling. You know, that multilib-portage does use MULTILIB_ABI as USE-expanded variable? Using exactly the same in the eclass will call for collision issues. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
to become so and should have never been there. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb: Thomas Sachau schrieb: Uhm, automagic stabilization without maintainer ok? This sounds like a bad idea. Doing a batch CC-ing after maintainer gave his ok or anything similar, which starts, when someone actually aproved the stable going is all ok

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Markos Chandras schrieb: On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb: Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs (there is a package name and maintainer name regex in the script). You don't need to hunt them down - if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb: On 5/21/13 6:38 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: And if a maintainer is not responding within 30 days, you can ping him or, without a response, try to get a different maintainer. Just assuming that a stable request is ok without a maintainer response is really not a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Rick Zero_Chaos Farina schrieb: On 05/21/2013 09:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb: Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs (there is a package name and maintainer name regex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michael Palimaka schrieb: On 22/05/2013 20:07, viv...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/13 11:43, Michael Palimaka wrote: On 22/05/2013 19:22, viv...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/21/13 23:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 15:38:44 schrieb Thomas Sachau: And if a maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] netsurf.eclass proposal

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
of the consumers. If you want to add such wrapper, you can look into the multilib-portage overlay for such a wrapper, which has now been working and tested for some years. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
for none-default ABIs. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done for some packages. This will break e.g. for users

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As the topic says

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
multilib_is_native_abi() can still be used, when really just one build is needed for everyone Happy bikesh(r)edding -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --- /usr/portage/eclass/multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-08 20:57:54.0 +0200 +++ multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-25 15:28:10.0 +0200 @@ -373,7

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ulrich Mueller schrieb: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI) Would this variable be set by the user, in profiles

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-08-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: Dnia 2013-08-25, o godz. 21:34:09 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Ulrich Mueller schrieb: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function checking for the current ABI (always true with variable

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-09-01 Thread Thomas Sachau
the situation, it may instead result in a lot of churn, since people loose interest on their way to dev or shortly after. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
solution for multilib-portage, since i dont have to internally overwrite an eclass function, but that is just a side effect, since this issue never blocked multilib-portage. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: On 25/08/13 10:15 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib eclass support for building binaries for none-default ABI

2013-09-17 Thread Thomas Sachau
Thomas Sachau schrieb: Ulrich Mueller schrieb: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote: workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI) Would this variable be set

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
, but not in this thread. I want this thread to stay focused on the news item. Here is the updated newsitem based on feedback I have received so far. William What about busybox[sep-usr]? Is that still supported or is everyone with separate /usr forced to use an initramfs? -- Thomas Sachau

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-libs/fec

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
# Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org (2 Mar 2009) # Mask for removal, was merged into dev-java/fec net-libs/fec will be removed in ~30 days -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
and RDEPEND -remove the || die from econf -comment out the complete src_compile Since it seems like people change it at will and those are minor changes, i will do them in a few days, if noone has a good reason against them. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Petteri Räty schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: I would like to know, if there is some policy about editing skel.* files or who owns/maintains them. Additionally, i suggest some changes to skel.ebuild: Posts diffs to gentoo-dev and if there are no objections -- commit. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Willikins

2009-03-30 Thread Thomas Sachau
Stefan Knoblich schrieb: Hi, we'd like to have Willikins join #gentoo.de, so here's my official request :) Thanks in advance. (This is a -nomail subscription, you'll have to CC me.) Stefan (stkn @ #gentoo.de) ok from me for this request. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer

[gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
? Which additional arguments are there for those options? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-04-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Robert Buchholz schrieb: On Monday 30 March 2009, Thomas Sachau wrote: Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. I'd like to suggest

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different ideas: 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Tiziano Müller schrieb: Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know

Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
for ebuild maintainence, there are good starting points (probably other projects also have training grounds like the java or kde herds), the bigger problem may be the communication between potential new developers and the current developer base and our options to become a new developer. -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
George Prowse schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with ebuilds, there is already an option: Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the documentation from the topic. The Sunrise Overlay (with the #gentoo-sunrise

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
) contributors until they got recruited as ebuild deveopers. With this proposal, we could recruite new people to work on things they are intersted in, so it should be relatively easy to get popular packages in the main tree, while not using some (probably not existing) additional dev-time. -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
this until now. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
project. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-08-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
-multilib -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Diff between Funtoo and Gentoo as an overlay

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
-rock-bin-2.0.1 is in pure-funtoo. Sebastian I suggest that you (or the person, who added those ebuilds to funtoo) join the Sunrise project and update the ebuild in the sunrise overlay instead of adding it to another tree. ;-) -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay usage and maintainence [was: DistroWatch and Gentoo packages: status quo and future]

2009-09-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
either contain breaking stuff (playground for devs) or not checked ebuilds from users. For both sets, the above ussage with layman should be easy enough. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Moving real multilib support into main tree portage with request for council decision

2009-10-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
) from the council. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving real multilib support into main tree portage with request for council decision

2009-10-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
Zac Medico schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: Hi together, as announced in a previous mail, i created a fork of portage, which has support to create 32bit libs during compile phase for 64bit platforms (currently amd64 tested, ppc64 untested). In short, it does execute every src_* phase twice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving real multilib support into main tree portage with request for council decision

2009-10-12 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009 06:21:14 Thomas Sachau wrote: as announced in a previous mail, i created a fork of portage, which has support to create 32bit libs during compile phase for 64bit platforms (currently amd64 tested, ppc64 untested). In short, it does execute

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

2009-10-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
and you should be able to use bugzilla. Else i suggest you move to a stable arch instead. Your arguments could make sense, if it would be about the stable tree, but forcing the testing tree to be a second stable tree, just with newer package versions isnt our goal nor does it help anyone. -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

2009-10-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
this way for all users except those, who are unable or unwilling to fill a bug with needed details. And we are not able to help those users. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

2009-10-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
warning. But do you really want to annoy every user with such a message everywhere, just because some people expect TESTING tree to be similar save as stable tree? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
. So if you enable the lib32 useflag, portage will require this useflag for all dependencies too. I dont mind renaming it, if there is some other sane naming for it. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
you can crosscompile. Currently i only support amd64 since thats the only ARCH i know and have access to. If i get enough details to implement other ARCHes and some way to test it there, i might try it for those other ARCHes too. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Robin H. Johnson schrieb: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:26:37PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 18 October 2009 14:49:09 Thomas Sachau wrote: Robin H. Johnson schrieb: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 04:50:23PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: what exactly does this lib32 do ? naming USE flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
for this part is my current multilib-portage project, which allows compilation and installation of additional 32bit libs and binaries. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Monday 19 October 2009 16:59:55 Thomas Sachau wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: the majority of the time, the compiler driver (i.e. `gcc`) should be used for linking. very few packages should invoke the linker directly. that is why currently the toolchain-func.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-22 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Sunday 18 October 2009 14:46:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: another quick look at _setup_abi_env() looks like it needs work: - LD should not default to `ld` Whats your suggestion? the majority of the time, the compiler driver (i.e. `gcc`) should

[gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default

2009-10-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
complain about a missing feature and are not able to think and enable a USE flag for that feature? -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default

2009-10-24 Thread Thomas Sachau
Sebastian Pipping schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over profiles or via IUSE +flag). I'm not sure for how much of the IUSE=+foo cases this applies but I can explain one of them: In xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default

2009-10-24 Thread Thomas Sachau
Petteri Räty schrieb: Thomas Sachau wrote: In addition, i see a trend to enabled more more more USE flags (either over profiles or via IUSE +flag). Whats the reason for forcing a big load of default enabled USE flags on every user including more dependencies, more compile time, more wasted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Amount of useflags enabled by default

2009-10-24 Thread Thomas Sachau
( unless of coarse they package is already DE related e.g if a kde package has a use flag for kde's sound system, this could be enabled at a package level while a package with a kde use flag should not default enable it.). I aggree. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] qemu/kvm image with prepared multilib setup for testing

2009-10-26 Thread Thomas Sachau
in the experimental/amd64/qemu dir. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
make.conf. Are you sure about this part? Afaik IUSE defaults overrides make.conf, you will have to explicitly add an entry to package.use for every package, where it is enabled per IUSE default. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Thomas Sachau
for some months, then tell me, where it lacks quality checks or anything else. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Sachau
for them. Maybe something like use.local.desc that is autogenerated? use.local.desc is autogenerated from metadata.xml of all packages in main tree (same is also done for use.local.desc for sunrise overlay). -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2009-12-12 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 12/12/2009 11:56 AM, Thilo Bangert wrote: Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org said: On 12/11/2009 10:30 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: Am Freitag 11 Dezember 2009 schrieb Christian Faulhammer: George Shapovalov (george) geo...@gentoo.org: Modified: use.local.desc Log: added local

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
multilib features from current multilib-portage to currently hardmasked and testing portage-2.2* for wider testing, more eyes looking at it and hopefully more people helping improving it, so we can get a version, which most can accept for PMS and maybe next EAPI. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-25 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 12/25/2009 06:10 AM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a thread at gentoo-dev ML: agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item: Adding real

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-26 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 12/26/2009 11:25 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: Hi Thomas, On 25-12-2009 15:00:36 +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote: On 12/25/2009 06:10 AM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: Sorry, I forgot to send an email explaining what happened on the council alias as promised. The consensus was that the project wasn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Sachau
someone else does open that stable request bug? If the policy is to always assign it to the maintainer, he can still decide, if or when the packages is ready, else some stabilisation might be done, also the maintainer had still outstanding issues. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: Proxy-maintainer project

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
is interested in proxy maintaining something can do this via Sunrise. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
*. There are 2 ways to fix this issue: -fix the dependency string for those packages (including the lines in distutils.eclass) or (since Arfrever claims current portage behaviour is wrong) -change portage behaviour to be satisfied with a python slot and to not require other slots. -- Thomas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 03/18/2010 08:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:20:02 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: -change portage behaviour to be satisfied with a python slot and to not require other slots. But then you'll never get new slots for the majority of dependencies where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 03/18/2010 08:33 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-03-18 20:20:02 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): Currently, some packages just depend on dev-lang/python. Arfrever claims it to be right It's correct only for packages (e.g. dev-python/setuptools), which support all versions

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 03/18/2010 08:55 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-03-18 20:47:35 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): On 03/18/2010 08:33 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-03-18 20:20:02 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): Currently, some packages just depend on dev-lang/python. Arfrever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
On 03/18/2010 09:02 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/18/2010 09:43 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: So my vote goes for changing the dependency strings for affected packages. Here's some thoughts on the matter: - dev-lang/python is correct if the package works with all python versions in tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages pulling in python-3*, also they dont require it

2010-03-18 Thread Thomas Sachau
, supported or will even work there (e.g. dev-util/protobuf does pull in python-3*, also i dont see any marks, that it does support python-3*). -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Empty herd: sgml

2010-03-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
I see, that the sgml herd seems to be empty for a longer time, so i would like to ask, if someone wants to take that herd and the related ebuilds and bugs over or if we should delete that herd and assign related ebuilds/bugs to m-n. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty herd: sgml

2010-03-21 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 21.03.2010 18:06, schrieb Mike Frysinger: On Sunday 21 March 2010 08:41:15 Thomas Sachau wrote: I see, that the sgml herd seems to be empty for a longer time, so i would like to ask, if someone wants to take that herd and the related ebuilds and bugs over or if we should delete that herd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-24 Thread Thomas Sachau
are required, so he will expect the same for python-3. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

hardened-sources development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying?)

2010-04-03 Thread Thomas Sachau
suggest you join #gentoo-hardened on freenode, since that is the place, where most of the conversation is done. Additionally it might have been better to send this mail at least in CC to gentoo-hardened ML, since most interested and active people are only subscribed there. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-05-27 Thread Thomas Sachau
message via IRC). If you missed some points or others appear, i will answer and ask about those. If you do not answer at all or do not answer with arguments to my satisfaction within 14 days, i will escalate those issues to devrel. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 05.06.2010 16:43, schrieb Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis: 2010-05-27 16:33:39 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): Hi together, since i am not able to get any real argument or even discussion on IRC nor on this mailing list from Arfrever (main person behind those changes), i would like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses do pull in dev-lang/python, which is unversioned, so it will always pull in the latest version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 06.06.2010 01:38, schrieb Harald van Dijk: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:48AM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 06.06.2010 08:36, schrieb Graham Murray: Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org writes: Since python-3* is currently useless and not required for any package, the dependency should by default only pull in python-2* like this: =dev-lang/python-2* With that, the default way would not pull

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 06.06.2010 09:37, schrieb Michał Górny: On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:19:28 +0200 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: Thomas, On 06/06/10 04:01, Thomas Sachau wrote: Since python-3* is currently useless and not required for any package, the dependency should by default only pull

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Thomas Sachau
Am 06.06.2010 13:09, schrieb Matti Bickel: On 06/06/2010 12:40 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: My base proposal for this is something like this: Every package defines the language(s), where it could be installed for multiple slots, e.g.: MULTI_SLOT=python or MULTI_SLOT=python ruby Additionally

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Thomas Sachau
, which means currently an install for e.g. python:2.6 and python:3.1. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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