Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-01 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.02.2013 14:26, Rich Freeman wrote: As long as it builds on 80%+ of systems and has no serious issues (security in particular) there is no reason to remove a package. And how will you get to know about current or future security issues if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-01 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.02.2013 14:47, Rich Freeman wrote: And how will you get to know about current or future security issues if nobody (in Gentoo) cares about the package? The same way that you know about security issues in Firefox or Chromium [...] Until

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals

2013-02-01 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for quoting a lot this time but it's important for understanding the issue. On 01.02.2013 15:00, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 01/02/13 08:56 AM, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: On 01.02.2013 14:47, Rich Freeman wrote: And how will you get to know about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09.08.2013 02:26, Mike Auty wrote: I could be a KDE developer, or a Gentoo documenter, or work on mplayer. All those people are open source contributors and necessary ones, but that doesn't mean that any of them necessarily has the skills or

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, 02. March 2009 10:29:59 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Also, having separate overlays would allow one to do experimental stuff with eclasses in the experimental overlay without affecting users of the base overlay. Until we get versioned eclasses, I don't see how one can do that

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-25 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 24. June 2009 17:48:38 Doug Goldstein wrote: I wanted to take this time to encourage everyone who can vote in this year's council elections. This is your chance to affect the technical development for Gentoo for the coming year and I encourage you to take it. Cardoe said it very

Re: [gentoo-dev] The KDE overlay moves forward

2009-10-21 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello! As you might know, the Gentoo KDE project provides an overlay with KDE4 live ebuilds (kde in layman) and some of their dependencies. It's been about 1,5 years ago when I announced the availability of the re- designed KDE overlay which has since been our playground/testing ground for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
And paludis and friends, while being designed for more independent use (much like openrc), again, is it (are they) actually part of any non- Gentoo-based distribution? Yes. Paludis is Exherbo's package manager. Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Yes. Paludis is Exherbo's package manager. FWIW, I categorized that as Gentoo based... tho how much it has expanded beyond that by now isn't something I'd know without being told... It has never been Gentoo-based, Duncan. You might perceive it like that because Gentoo has often embraced our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-17 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
I'd like to nominate Thomas tanderson Anderson. --- Wulf C. Krüger philant...@exherbo.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
If #gentoo-infra bangs their moms the rest of the community deserves to know. Oh? What do you do at night with your girlfriend (or boyfriend or yourself)? The community deserves to know! You have shown to be very attached to this topic, so much so that you've just blown this completely

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Timo Gurr (tgurr)

2007-09-24 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Well, let me tell you something, Timo. You've just entered Gentoo-land, so please leave all normality at the gate. Thanks for your understanding. Well, I've been working long enough with him to know that his definitely not normal - I leave it to the reader to figure out if that's good or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-cdr/kover

2007-09-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, 21. August 2007 14:23:44 Wulf C. Krueger wrote: # Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (21 Aug 2007) # Stable version doesn't compile, unstable version is partly broken. # Application is conceptionally wrong. More details on bug 187251. # Use app-cdr/koverartist instead. # Masked

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kolab2/Gentoo project

2007-10-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Saturday, 13. October 2007 19:27:05 Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 13:11 +0200, Gunnar Wrobel wrote: The project has advanced far enough though that I feel it is a good time point to declare this a real Gentoo project. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kolab/index.xml Umm...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolving HAL vs. pciutils/usbutils

2007-10-31 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Daniel! I don't feel strongly enough to make an objection to your commit, but I think pciutils is doing the right thing, The question is not if some software is doing the right thing or not but if our packages behave like they should for our users. and despite me and Mike putting a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-11-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello! On Sunday, 09. September 2007 21:15:12 Wulf C. Krueger wrote: KDE4's build system is based on CMake and seeing that more and more KDE and non-KDE applications are using it, we have created a new cmake-utils.eclass [3] which allows for easier implementation of ebuilds for those

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: cmake.eclass

2007-11-04 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Krzysiek! On Sunday, 04. November 2007 15:09:47 Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: Wulf: check this patch to cmake-utils.eclass - it used pushd/popd, adds CMAKE_IN_SOURCE_BUILD in cmake-utils_src_compile and defines LIB_INSTALL_DIR (cmake-utils will be used by other packages besides KDE too).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-11-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Friday, 09. November 2007 10:10:42 René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote: But as I think, that the uppercase version is the common behavior here, it should not need this extra PYTHON. :) That's why the patch ;) Actually, the mixed-case is what we have encountered in most cases. Furthermore, as you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, 18. December 2007 19:20:58 Joe Peterson wrote: I also do not see why there are not other more elegant, transparent, and automatic ways to determine EAPI without sourcing. How much easier can it be? The extension scheme is simple and would do the job nicely. brainstorming, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, 18. December 2007 22:32:03 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: or .ebuild-ng. /me votes for .ebuild-TOS. ;) -- Best regards, Wulf Sorry, couldn't resist. Krueger :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Extended attributes can be turned off during compile time for each filesystem you mentioned. If you turn off features you need, things break. There's nothing new about that. If you disable ext3 support in your kernel, you can't mount an ext3 partition and you'll get an error during boot about

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
I DO understand. You don't. The complete paragraph of yours shows you don't. But you're totally ignoring my point. So once again: You're trying to *SET* a standard here. There are lots of people telling you that they're not happy with the proposal to change the ebuild filename suffix. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, 20. December 2007 21:27:03 Markus Ullmann wrote: Erm no, PMS isn't officially until council made a decision on it (and I'm not aware of one yet). Currently official EAPIs are 0 and 1. And EAPI-1 is defined where? :) -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting

2008-01-08 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, 08. January 2008 22:44:17 Chrissy Fullam wrote: 'bodies' would be needed to enforce CoC on #gentoo-dev I don't really see any need for moderation on #gentoo-dev. We've managed quite nicely without big brothers watching us so far and I think we should simply keep doing that. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status: KDE

2008-01-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
- KDE 3 KDE 4 - KDE-related stuff Are we fine? All in all, we're doing acceptably well, I'd say. In some areas, we're doing really well. I've recently mentored two new recruits, namely Ingmar Ingmar Vanhassel and Bo zlin Andresen who will hopefully soon become new members of the KDE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 09. January 2008 19:16:24 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: So what happens if a flaw is discovered in KDE 3.5.5 that allows root access? Then the one particular part of 3.5.5 that's affected gets fixed and priority keyworded. So you suggest that mips keeps doing nothing and expect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 09. January 2008 19:45:38 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Then the one particular part of 3.5.5 that's affected gets fixed and priority keyworded. So you suggest that mips keeps doing nothing and expect others to work *more* in exchange for that? Well, most users will simply ignore

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status: KDE

2008-01-11 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 09. January 2008 20:40:48 Carsten Lohrke wrote: KDE 4.0.0 will be released on January, 11th 2008, and if things keep going like they do now we might be able to put all the stuff into ~arch on the release day. We're not going to make it today. (Which is quite obvious since we

[gentoo-dev] New eclasses for KDE 4

2008-01-11 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello, fellow Gentoo devs! Attached you'll find the new eclasses for KDE 4. We'd like to commit them on Sunday, 14th, to be able to get KDE 4.0.0 into the official tree (package.masked, though). We would welcome any comments, especially if accompanied by patches ;) and, of course, your kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Ingmar Vanhassel (ingmar)

2008-01-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 16. January 2008 11:11:31 Denis Dupeyron wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce Ingmar Vanhassel (ingmar) as a new [...] Welcome, Ingmar! :-) unacceptable for a mere user so he, too, must be assimilated. ;-) Resistance *was* futile! ;-) -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for a mentor

2008-01-31 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Friday, 01. February 2008 02:58:48 Iain Buchanan wrote: actually I had philantrop offer (many thanks, will get back to you ASAP) and 2 or 3 comments on IRC (thanks also :) I got your mail and I'll catch you on IRC this weekend. :-) I was going to reply when I'd said OK to philantrop, and

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-ftp/nvemftp

2008-02-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
# Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (09 Feb 2008) # Masked for removal in 30 days. # nvemftp's last release was in 2003, we've already had # to patch it to even compile and now it doesn't even # work anymore. Upstream is dead. cf. bug 209412. net-ftp/nvemftp signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2008-02-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 13. February 2008 18:57:58 Mark Loeser wrote: This is probably a bit late to be bringing up, but could the council please discuss the state of PMS and EAPI? What we mean by that is that it seems we are using EAPI=1 in the tree, and some of us are concerned because we can't find

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2008-02-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 13. February 2008 19:34:37 Mark Loeser wrote: Okay, so I stand corrected about them approving it. Where is the approved specification though? That's something I asked the council, too, here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.council/110 I got no response from the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Seems that this arose from media-libs/libdvdcss... Can we rename this to dvdcss to make it clear that this have something to do with dvds and not with web technologies? To find out what a USE flag is for, we have descriptions. Which *actual* packages would benefit from changing the current css

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Which *actual* packages would benefit from changing the current span index=4 id=message4 name=incorrect class=incorrectcss/span USE flag to something different? Of course, I'm not talking about benefit for packages but about benefit for users (me included). Yes, of course, but unless there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, 14. February 2008 22:23:57 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: While changing an USE flag on the run is not a nice thing for users, I think that disambiguating this is a good idea. Where is the pressing need to do that? Again, which current package would use a re-defined css USE

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-video/konverter

2008-02-21 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
# Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (21 Jul 2007) # Broken by upstream. cf. bug 173972. =media-video/konverter-0.93 This has been p.masked for quite some time now for instability and lots of bugs. It's been abandoned for about two years now. It won't even compile anymore now (bug 211002

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Bo Ørsted Andresen (zlin)

2008-02-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, 28. February 2008 13:28:11 Petteri Räty wrote: control engineer. On the Gentoo side he is one of the people who enabled KDE4 coming to our main tree via contributing to their overlays. Thanks for that, zlin, and welcome again among our ranks! :-) Now I'm going to mentor the two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: One request for the next SoC: non already-devs students

2008-03-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, 02. March 2008 20:25:09 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Do we inspire them by telling them that anybody who has made this choice in the past is not to be rewarded financially for doing so? This brings up a different point of view too. From my point of view it's pretty simple: I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Keywords policy

2008-03-10 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
A. KDE team drops arch keywords for KDE 4, since KDE4 is new. Basically, yes. C. Jer misses keywords because the KDE team did not provide a distinct list of packages Because we didn't even ask for re-keywording. :-) KDE 4.0.x leaves much to be desired which is why it's p.masked (which

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Keywords policy

2008-03-10 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
C. Jer misses keywords because the KDE team did not provide a distinct list of packages Because we didn't even ask for re-keywording. :-) According to Rej you dropped the hppa keyword without informing him. That is correct. The current policy states that you should file a bug in this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 02. April 2008 22:46:16 Petteri Räty wrote: How does having the average time between commits be at most a week sound and if it goes under that, undertakers will get a notification? It sounds like you're trying to get rid of someone. -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
If we used git, proxy maintaining would be easier. Many things would be easier then. I'm all for switching to git. -- Best regards, Wulf pgpextitGtwiV.pgp Description: PGP Digital Signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, 16. April 2008 11:03:29 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I think that this thread is about making Gentoo unstable, unusable and user non-friendly. I think you really don't have the slightest clue what this thread is about. Don't feed the trolls... -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello! I think flameeyes should have sent this himself in the first place, but since he's clearly not going to do that and prefers to just force it on our users I'm mailing this... flameeyes talked about .la files in his blog recently:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-04-19 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
By the way, asking a question is not poisonous. Absolutely. Asking about it here was my suggestion. -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] DevRel policy update

2008-04-27 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
How to gain power the easy way and obsolete conflict resolution in just one commit: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml?r1=1.18r2=1.19 -- Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI change: Call ebuild functions from trusted working directory

2008-10-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, 13. October 2008 19:42:21 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Since EAPI=0 isn't actually approved yet, council wouldn't vote either. As it's a draft standard, this would be resolved amongst package-manager developers and PMS editors. So, EAPI-2 had to be approved before it could be used in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-admin/eselect needs YOUR help

2008-12-08 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, 08. December 2008 17:37:42 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Open and public debate about the right way to do things does take longer, and it's something you certainly participate in quite frequently so I'm surprised to hear you badmouth it when it comes to your own ideas. It's not about

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash

2012-03-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On 13.03.2012 07:22, Brian Harring wrote: Still is god awfuly fugly though, and reliant on digits as the first character to be readable. Consider exheres: dev-foo/foo-bar-2.3.4.eapiexheres.eb Just for the record, your example is wrong. For exheres, it would be foo-bar-2.3.4.exheres-0 0

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote: And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, if they were available. No, we wouldn't. Best regards, Wulf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept

2012-09-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Just for the record, I don't care about the merits or demerits of *DEPEND or DEPENDENCIES.) Ah, I forgot how the goals change *everything*. Because it's good to kill hundreds of people for the good reasons. You might want to take a short break to

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18.11.2012 06:00, Richard Yao wrote: but we are doing AGILE development, so long term goals have not been well defined. [...] With that said, Linux distributions are victims of people continually trying to reinvent the wheel with no formal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Quoting Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: noone ever suggested that I'd be a case for urgent council decision. That's because your revisions only change once a year. ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Best regards, Wulf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:00:08 PM Dominique Michel wrote: Another fact remain: theology is about religion when genealogy is about sciences. Theology *is* a science. Anyway, gramps is no longer part of the theology herd. Can we drop this now? Best regards, Wulf pgpvhWvMjUbRS.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 03:23:41 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Paludis configuration: * - */*] Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this users want an accompanying news item even if the application does output deprecation warnings. Currently, there are two news item in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 04:14:25 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Currently, there are two news item in the Paludis overlay. Unless earlier ones were removed, those two seem to be a fairly small sample to deduce anything from. They were. How many news items did you issue? (It's probably easier

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Saturday, May 5, 2007 07:46:47 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote: It warns noisily. It doesn't say how to fix it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WARNING] In program paludis -ip kdelibs: ... When making environment from specification '': ... When loading paludis configuration: ... When reading licenses file

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-13 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, May 13, 2007 09:57:05 AM Matti Bickel wrote: If the general feeling is that ion is unacceptable in the tree, i'll mask it pending removal. Having read the threads you referenced, I don't think there's much room for a compromise. In the conversation with you, Matti, he argues that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing expat 2.0.0

2007-05-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, May 15, 2007 05:29:44 PM Christian Faulhammer wrote: Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but the amd64 team is unresponsive on even trivial stabilisation request form the KDE team as well, lately. You will get them tomorrow...promised. :) Too many bugs, not enough devs...as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal of new use.desc for xscreensaver.

2007-05-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, May 28, 2007 10:07:48 PM Samuli Suominen wrote: After noticing recent addition today for kde-base/klaptopdaemon I counted 11 use.local.desc flags doing basically same thing. Enabling xscreensaver or it's extension. Any objections of I move this to use.desc? I'm in favour of doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal of new use.desc for xscreensaver.

2007-05-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:28:36 AM Samuli Suominen wrote: It's done but unfortunately a bit after you allready wasted your time with use.local.desc. Moved a dozen xscreensaver flags to use.desc since no objections arised, and why would it have.. triviality++ No problem. I've waited a bit to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, May 31, 2007 02:32:22 AM Marius Mauch wrote: I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) bugs that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation to come up with a solution, ... or is lacking the necessary skills. I propose a new bugzilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

2007-06-05 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello William, On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 06:25:07 AM William Hubbs wrote: app-accessibility/festival has not done a release upstream in some time. I don't really *need* festival from an accessibility point of view but I'm using it from time to time and find it quite useful. Once emacspeak

[gentoo-dev] Proctors - improve the concept or discard it?

2007-06-06 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 05:29:47 PM Grant Goodyear wrote: [Proctor system] a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as has been suggested? Personally, I think we simply don't need the proctors. I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proctors - improve the concept or discard it?

2007-06-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Chris! I'm shortening your mail greatly and respond to only a few aspects because the two of us seem to agree on a great deal of those points you made. On Thursday, June 7, 2007 01:45:43 AM Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Proctors] Well, they've been asked to write guidelines for Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Non-Dev Contributors and the Tree

2007-06-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, June 7, 2007 01:43:45 PM Michael Cummings wrote: ...or, Trees and Tree Climbers: Shaking up the tree You forgot about the tree huggers! ;-) I mostly agree with your arguments but seeing what we have in the Sunrise overlay I don't think we need another one. Today, people can get

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Non-Dev Contributors and the Tree

2007-06-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, June 7, 2007 08:34:37 PM Vlastimil Babka wrote: Well the difference is that AFAIK Sunrise is just for maintainer-wanted stuff that's not in the tree yet, but Michael talks about (rev)bumps of stuff that's already in tree. AFAIK, if the maintainer agrees, it's fine to have other

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Ali Polatel (hawking)

2007-06-20 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Wednesday, June 20, 2007 06:54:42 PM Petteri Räty wrote: It's my usual pleasure to introduce to you Ali hawking Polatel who [...] is the National Master to be more exact. Where's Deep Blue when you need it?! ;-) Welcome, Ali! Best regards, Wulf pgpElUXKlArWC.pgp Description: PGP

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-print/kink

2007-06-21 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
+ 21 Jun 2007; Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] package.mask: + Masked net-print/kink for removal wrt bug #176857. net-print/kink is as dead as it gets - no changes in its CVS for more than 3 years. Nothing depends on it and it won't compile anymore with the libinklevel versions currently

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-print/kink

2007-06-21 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Neil! On Thursday, June 21, 2007 09:11:25 PM you wrote: Errrm... this is a joke, right? It's a simple program that does a simple job. Why does it need updates? It compiles perfectly. Just emerged it without error. It's not. Please leave a comment on bug 176857 describing which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-print/kink

2007-06-22 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, June 21, 2007 08:39:39 PM Wulf C. Krueger wrote: + 21 Jun 2007; Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] package.mask: + Masked net-print/kink for removal wrt bug #176857. net-print/kink is as dead as it gets - no changes in its CVS for more than 3 years. Nothing depends

[gentoo-dev] Marcus 'cryos' Hanwell's talk about Gentoo and KDE at aKademy 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello! Marcus cryos Hanwell gave a talk on Gentoo and KDE on Sunday at aKademy 2007. Marcus presented the current state of KDE in Gentoo, our current headaches and questions as well as what we hope for or expect for the future. I rarely enjoy taped presentations but this one was entertaining

Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-08 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, 08. July 2007 20:15:31 Harald van Dijk wrote: No, you have to get permission of the copyright holders. Which, in this case, is the Foundation. Could you back that up, please? I was looking for something to confirm or deny this myself, but didn't find anything. It's in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-08 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, 08. July 2007 21:12:38 Harald van Dijk wrote: # Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation Thus, the copyright owner/holder is the Gentoo Foundation. If I write an ebuild today, why does it not say Copyright 2007? Probably because different legal systems require different formats of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-12 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, 12. July 2007 21:14:38 Seemant Kulleen wrote: It would be an interesting question, though, to prove that someone wrote a from-scratch ebuild via looking only at the documentation, and without basing any parts off of already existing ebuilds in the tree, no? How many angels can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Steve! On Monday, 16. July 2007 18:17:00 Steve Long wrote: Sure, but since you're only doing exactly what you want, when you want, why do you guys keep bleating about how much work you have, and what extravagant demands us lusers make on you? Now, now. You're a nice guy on IRC so what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations Update

2007-07-24 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Roy! I've said my piece. You'll vote for me if you agree with my technical decisions and you find yourself siding with me (even mentally) in the few discussions I take part in on -dev and #-dev. I can't say much about your technical decisions because I haven't consciously seen any, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

2007-07-29 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Sunday, 29. July 2007 18:44:23 Sven Köhler wrote: Why did you provocate this breakage? This is not a good idea, IMHO. I think so, too. cf. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166790 Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-cdr/kover

2007-08-21 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
# Wulf C. Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (21 Aug 2007) # Stable version doesn't compile, unstable version is partly broken. # Application is conceptionally wrong. More details on bug 187251. # Use app-cdr/koverartist instead. # Masked for removal in 30 days. app-cdr/kover signature.asc Description

[gentoo-dev] New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-09-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello! As you might know, a very active Gentoo user, Zephyrus, several members of the KDE herd and other interested parties [1] are currently working on the pre-releases of KDE4 in the GenKDEsvn overlays [2]. KDE4's build system is based on CMake and seeing that more and more KDE and non-KDE

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-09-09 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Thanks for all your comments! Some ideas (especially the use_with/_enable shrinking) are rather spectacular and *all* are greatly appreciated. If there's more, please let us know. Until then, we'll make those changes you suggested and will follow-up on this tomorrow with the changed eclass.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-15 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On 15.10.2011 10:42, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: in what way will exherbo deal wih this mess? Are there any plans? We don't support /usr on a separate partition. People can, of course, do that and I'll point them to dracut for creating an initramfs. Or they can do whatever works for them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.12.2013 22:07, Peter Stuge wrote: If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say Define dead? The latest upstream release is this: cron_4.1.shar 2004-Jan-23 19:20:23200.7K application/octet-stream As you can see, it will turn ten soon.

Re: [gentoo-dev] mbox -- looks sort of interesting

2014-02-11 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jason, On 11.02.2014 01:36, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: It's a sandbox that uses a combination of ptrace and seccomp bpf; neither ours nor exherbo's uses both of these together. Actually, sydbox, Exherbo's sandbox *does* use both together. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo

2014-07-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16.07.2014 18:06, Rich Freeman wrote: IANAL, but there is no such concept as abandonware in copyright law. [...] This is legally a very risky thing to do. If you're going to do it you want to take advantage of countries with friendly laws,