Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:48 +0200 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Hildebrand wrote: Otoh LC_ALL=C could help if you intend to use a .utf-8 locale as root, though. So if it does help solving bugs and causes no

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: debug-build can always be expanded to turn on generic debugging for other build systems and languages. Really? Perhaps you can explain the implementation details a little more, because it's not obvious to me. From my

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 16:10, Zac Medico wrote: Grant Goodyear wrote: Zac Medico wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 01:30:38PM CDT] Mike Frysinger wrote: this is a *huge* con ... developers are lazy, *i'm* lazy ... i certainly do

Re: [gentoo-dev] herds.xml

2006-06-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: Well, all that's required is modification to rsync gen script; I'll do it, assuming that a location has been agreed upon. $PORTDIR/metadata/herds.xml is the place? Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Did portage 2.1 change default use flags?

2006-06-14 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: Interested in figuring out what use flags were turned off? Check out /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults and other use.defaults files that correspond to your profile. It's probably easier to let portage do the work and run

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct - no USE flags at all. Are you sure about the SRC_URI being different? I

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: Zac Medico schrieb: If a version of SRC_URI that has all the conditionals evaluated is needed in the ebuild environment, then I think we should use a new variable name. Otherwise, it's ambiguous. Doesn't $AA already satisfy

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN: why make.globals?

2006-07-06 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Is there any particular reason USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN needs to be in make.globals, as opposed to in base/make.defaults alongside USE_EXPAND? Seems to me it'd make more sense were the two kept together... Given the support that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-10 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fish wrote: On 7/10/06, Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: per pkg cflags are here already it would fall under the per pkg env variables. Please forgive my stupidity, but the only place I could see to set a env var per package was

Re: [gentoo-dev] 'mad' vs 'mp3' USE flags

2006-07-14 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Per-package use.mask is not here for another year and in the mean time I needed a working solution, this is it. It think we can have it sooner than another year. There are lots of fixes in 2.1.1_pre and I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heim wrote: I'm currently preparing one of my embedded system for a test-run and noticed that a *binary* package of media-libs/libpng pulls in the autofoo-stuff. I went looking for the reason, looked into the eutils, multilib and

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 15:32, Zac Medico wrote: The actual fault is in libpng-1.2.12-r1.ebuild where RDEPEND= should be explicitly set. the actual fault is portage instead of half-assing all this DEPEND/RDEPEND

Re: [gentoo-dev] implicit RDEPEND

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 17:29, Zac Medico wrote: I'm not satisfied with the current implicit RDEPEND behavior either. I propose that we make repoman force explicit definition of RDEPEND. and i'm on the opposite side

Re: [gentoo-dev] Setting USE_EXPAND defaults in profiles (in some cases)

2006-08-06 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: agaffney suggested this in the first place, and every time I think about it, it seems like a better idea. If we set VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES in the arch profiles, we get the arch-specific defaults we need without the

[gentoo-dev] use.force as a complement to use.mask in profiles

2006-08-07 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I've written a patch [1] that implements support for use.force and package.use.force as originally described by Sven Wegener [2] over a year ago. Basically, this feature is the exact opposite of use.mask and package.use.mask. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force as a complement to use.mask in profiles

2006-08-07 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: I read the portage-dev discussion, and I'm still not seeing how this is superior to make.defaults. The difference with use.force is that it prevents flags, that are deemed extremely important, from being accidentally

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force as a complement to use.mask in profiles

2006-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 08:33:51AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 00:22:50 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 07:23:31AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Mon, 7 Aug

[gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-08 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: Any chance of per-package USE defaults support? That's much more useful to me. Attached to bug 61732 there's a patch that implements this via a new IUSE_DEFAULTS ebuild variable. If people like that particular

[gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Currently, portage only allows single inheritance in profiles, but it's easy to enable multiple inheritance. In order to do this, we only need to unconstrain the number of parents allowed in the parent file (only 1 is currently

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:24:49 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Currently, portage only allows single inheritance in profiles, but | it's easy to enable multiple inheritance. In order to do this, we | only need

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-13 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: Said single inheritance protection was added 06/05/06 (rev 3544), stabled for x86 roughly 06/22/06. Hasn't even yet made it to a release media- meaning folk installing from the most current release media still can get bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles

2006-08-13 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: Zac Medico wrote: I'm not sure what the probability of people hurting themselves like this is. Perhaps it's a negligible corner case and a note in the upgrade guide will be enough to keep the vast majority of users

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Goodyear wrote: 42 (critical news) -- Change owner to zmedico? Yes, I'll adopt it. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE/FW3/ejvha5XGaMRAvILAKCUtgAfK4MJzvcmDMnXKHDLiP+7qgCeNU/a b1umAqjbf5AGkJRmOmhjT+Y=

[gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-10 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Portage currently has two hard-coded lists of variables that control the behavior of env-update. I'd like to make these variables configurable so that package maintainers have direct control over them. The variables break down into two

Re: [gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Zac Medico wrote: We can store them in /etc/env.d/ itself. The env-update tool could be hare coded to consider COLON_SEPARATED and SPACE_SEPARATED as being implicitly within the SPACE_SEPARATED class. The tool would make

Re: [gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:44:23 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Portage currently has two hard-coded lists of variables that control | the behavior of env-update. I realise GLEP 24 is considered not going very

Re: [gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-11 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 03:44, Zac Medico wrote: What is the best way to propagate information about these two variable types? For example, we can have a list of variable names stored in a new variable called

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:19:40 +0200 Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Protected Locations | === | | Protected locations are determined by the ``CONFIG_PROTECT`` | environment variable, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:19:40 +0200 Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Protected Locations | === | | Protected locations are determined by the ``CONFIG_PROTECT`` | environment variable, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:44:22 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 3) Prevents /etc/foo from matching /etc/foobaz or /etc/foobaz/bar. Is this really desired behaviour? In my opinion, it is a desirable change. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-13 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 10 September 2006 21:44, Zac Medico wrote: For example, we can have a list of variable names stored in a new variable called COLON_SEPARATED that will reside in either the profiles or /etc/env.d/ itself. /etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-irc/xchat

2012-11-25 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/25/2012 12:27 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: I also planned to release a news through the portage news system as soon as I lastrite xchat so people know how to move over to hexchat. As I never did this before I'd like to have some help concerning this matter. Is there some documentation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-11-30 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/28/2012 09:50 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:05:55 -0500 Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: We could slightly simplify the handbook installation procedure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Zac Medico
Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:28:30 -0800 Subject: [PATCH] Add mirrorselect --list-only option --- mirrorselect/main.py | 9 - 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/mirrorselect/main.py b/mirrorselect/main.py

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2012-12-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/09/2012 09:15 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: No, once they are downloaded, they don't change ever after the quarterly rollover which starts a new updates file. Nor do they take up significant storage space. They probably take up a higher percentage of your fs's inodes than % diskspace. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require users to migrate to those profiles after getting an EAPI 5 capable package manager (how?). Possibly mask the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-11 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/12/2012 01:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:25 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: viv...@gmail.com posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:37:49 +0100 as excerpted: Some numbers: Packages installed: 1756 Packages in world:626 Packages in system: 42 Required packages:1756 Number to remove: 0 Heh... try my depclean summary

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 12:26 AM, Duncan wrote: Zac Medico posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:24 -0800 as excerpted: On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: [1] I long ago filed a bug suggesting a new world-sets line for depclean, but I expect it'll be resolved/fixed about the time sets support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 01:33 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: No /var/gentoo. No /var/repositories. /var/db/gentoo, /var/db/repositories, /var/cache/portage ... as long as Zac is fine with one whatever, but let's not invent any new top-level. Yeah, /var/db or /var/cache sounds good to me. I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-19 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 11:58 PM, Duncan wrote: Zac Medico posted on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:58:42 -0800 as excerpted: It's important to clarify that, because /etc/portage/sets (aka GLEP 21 User Sets) has already been supported in stable portage since 2.1.11.9 [1]. I didn't know that. Last I knew

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-19 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/19/2012 02:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:56:44 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: Just mv /usr/portage /var/portage ? FFS no. Among other things, as many said before, we should really take distfiles out of the tree itself, and packages the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/20/2012 06:12 AM, Graham Murray wrote: Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org writes: On 12/19/2012 02:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: If we are going to move distfiles out of the tree into, what are the odds of getting /some/path/portage/local to move somewhere else too? What program uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/20/2012 03:36 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:19:52 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/19/2012 02:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:56:44 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: Just mv /usr/portage /var/portage ? FFS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/20/2012 12:09 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/18/2012 11:58 PM, Duncan wrote: I didn't know that. Last I knew, stable portage had special-case acceptance of @system and @world to prepare the way, but I hadn't seen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping licenses around

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/20/2012 10:19 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 20/12/12 01:12 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: What about /usr/portage/licenses, for example? Some of the licenses are required to be present on the system if the corresponding software is installed. So users cannot legally remove them. ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/20/2012 12:35 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El jue, 20-12-2012 a las 12:23 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 12/20/2012 12:09 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/18/2012 11:58 PM, Duncan wrote: I didn't know that. Last I knew

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-20 Thread Zac Medico
AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/18/2012 11:58 PM, Duncan wrote: I didn't know that. Last I knew, stable portage had special-case acceptance of @system and @world to prepare the way, but I hadn't seen that full /etc/portage/sets/* and /var/lib/portage/world_sets support

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2012-12-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/23/2012 08:35 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 08:58 -0500, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 12:20 +, Markos Chandras wrote: But like I said, elog messages are already saved in /var/log/portage/elog/$cat/$pf so people can read these. Isn't this the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/27/2012 05:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: EAPI 5 provides use.stable.mask files to solve this but those files require profiles to be EAPI 5. Therefore, in order to be able to use it we would have to actually break the update path for older portage versions completely. So, adding new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2013-01-08

2012-12-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/27/2012 03:40 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012, 14:37:37 schrieb Michał Górny: a) adding new profiles which will require EAPI=5 and requiring all users to migrate to them after upgrading portage. Using new use.stable.mask files in those profiles. OK

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 09:14 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: Hi, stage3 now includes non-ASCII paths, via app-misc/ca-certificates -- e.g.: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/TÜBİTAK_UEKAE_Kök_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sağlayıcısı_-_Sürüm_3.crt Working with those (e.g., backup) probably requires a UTF-8 locale.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 05:21 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: pkg_postinst() { Some improvements I am not sure how to implement just now: - What would be the proper way to elog contents of /usr/share/doc/${PF}/CONFIGURATION.bz2 and, then, allow the following to be shorter: if ! has_version

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 07:22 AM, Leho Kraav wrote: Hi all Just bumped into something I haven't encountered before. Running amd64. Already had sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 (stable) installed. Then installed gnome-base/gdm-3.4.1-r3 binpkg, binhost had newer pambase, which is why this didn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-01 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/01/2013 05:39 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 01-01-2013 a las 14:32 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: pkg_postinst() { @@ -48,6 +56,8 @@ elog fi +echo ${CONFIGURATION_INSTRUCTIONS} | fmt | while read -s ELINE; do elog ${ELINE}; done + #

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-02 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/02/2013 03:48 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 01-01-2013 a las 16:01 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/01/2013 05:39 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mar, 01-01-2013 a las 14:32 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: pkg_postinst() { @@ -48,6 +56,8 @@ elog fi + echo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2013-01-02 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/02/2013 02:46 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 08:59 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: gentoo-x86/profiles/updates $ LANG=C ls -1 --sort=time [long list omitted] old entries are done in different context (comparing to 2012): -

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2013-01-02 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/02/2013 08:49 AM, Leho Kraav wrote: Ok my conclusion is then that gdm-3.4.1.ebuild should be patched for [systemd?-], considering it seems otherwise fully compatible with current stable pambase. Opinions? Since gdm is using EAPI 4, sys-auth/pambase[consolekit?,systemd(-)?] seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-03 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/03/2013 02:09 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: In any case, we probably shouldn't spend a whole lot of effort on this given the somewhat-impending git migration, which neatly solves this problem. Maybe there's some low-hanging fruit in the commit ordering, though? I was thinking it might be

Re: [gentoo-dev] collision-protect - protect-owned ?

2013-01-03 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/02/2013 10:13 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:25 -0500, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 01/03/2013 12:06 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:49:02 -0800 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: It came up again with

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello After seeing: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440214 Looking to a lot of its blockers shows that we

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/06/2013 05:36 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Jan 6, 2013 8:32 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org mailto:zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org mailto:dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-07 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2013 11:46 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: Hi, Quoting Pacho Ramos (2013-01-07 10:34:52) - Eclass was originally oriented to cover those kind of messages that could be shown by elog first time the package is merged and, later, rely on

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/07/2013 05:35 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/06/2013 05:36 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Jan 6, 2013 8:32 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org mailto:zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-08 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/08/2013 11:24 PM, Douglas Freed wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: The CVS keyword expansion causes the ebuild digest to mutate during the commit. If we repoman could predict correctly emulate the CVS keywords expansion on the client side

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-08 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/08/2013 11:36 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/08/2013 11:24 PM, Douglas Freed wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: The CVS keyword expansion causes the ebuild digest to mutate during the commit. If we repoman could predict correctly emulate the CVS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/08/2013 11:49 PM, Duncan wrote: Zac Medico posted on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:36:59 -0800 as excerpted: Thought: Do the CVS keyword expansion in repoman, and then feed the expanded file to CVS for commit. This gives you a fixed file, which you can then generate your manifest against

Re: [gentoo-dev] About *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff at top of some eclasses but not others

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:40 AM, justin wrote: My question, did anybody else might have observed similar things? Is there a flaw in this *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff? There could well be, but even in the absence of the *ECLASS_ONCE_* stuff, the problem that you're describing could be attributed to eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 01:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 09-01-2013 00:31:04 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: Of course that assumes that the keywords are suitably distinct such that they won't ordinarily be found in the pre-expanded lines. Whether that's actually the case or not I've no idea... Well

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Should portage tree CVS impose a commit moratorium during snapshot creation?

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 12:31 AM, Zac Medico wrote: I guess we could use the cvs -ko option [1] on all files. That's apparently what prevents $Header expansion for $PORTDIR/skel.ebuild. Actually, we should use -kb rather than -ko, since -kb disables transformations entirely [1]. The -ko mode is identical

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there are multiple versions/slots that have different README.gentoo content? Maybe the eclass should accommodate that somehow? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to end-of-life tree-clean old profiles/updates/ files

2013-01-11 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/11/2013 01:10 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 17:05 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: This command seems to do the trick: $ ls -1 /usr/portage/profiles/updates/ | grep -Ev '(08|09|10|11|12|13)$' 1Q-2004 1Q-2005 1Q-2006 1Q-2007 2Q-2004 2Q-2005 2Q-2006 2Q-2007 3Q-2004 3Q

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/12/2013 01:46 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This changes the name of eclass to readme.gentoo.eclass and gets information from ${FILESDIR}/README.gentoo What if there are multiple versions

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-12 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/12/2013 02:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 12-01-2013 a las 02:01 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/12/2013 01:46 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 09-01-2013 a las 12:04 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/09/2013 11:53 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/13/2013 04:18 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: What about this approach? You should use ${SLOT%/*}, in order to exclude the sub-slot, because you don't care about the sub-slot and the slash would cause problems. -- Thanks, Zac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/13/2013 09:43 AM, hasufell wrote: On 01/13/2013 03:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, Right now an attempt to commit an ebuild with no HOMEPAGE results in: HOMEPAGE.missing 1 app-admin/eselect-sh/eselect-sh-0.4.ebuild Note: use --include-dev (-d) to check

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/13/2013 04:59 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 13-01-2013 a las 04:54 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/13/2013 04:18 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: What about this approach? You should use ${SLOT%/*}, in order to exclude the sub-slot, because you don't care about the sub-slot and the slash

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 01:33 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: I've seen this pop up a lot recently: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order to * ensure that files installed via these symlinks remain accessible. This * indicates that the mentioned symlink(s) may be obsolete

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 06:46 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: This particular symlink was put there by openrc though, wasn't it? Yeah, openrc uses the migrate_to_run function from /etc/init.d/bootmisc. So I'd expect that on the whole this should be left for openrc to deal with or otherwise left to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/01/13 09:57 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 06:46 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: This particular symlink was put there by openrc though, wasn't it? Yeah, openrc uses the migrate_to_run function from /etc/init.d/bootmisc. So I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused. Putting my earlier note aside, if the symlink will be auto-cleaned after no packages use it, what's the point/need for the original message from portage then?? Is it just QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 08:26 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/01/13 10:53 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused. Putting my earlier note aside, if the symlink will be auto-cleaned after no packages use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 09:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 14/01/2013 18:14, Zac Medico wrote: It might be a lot simpler to just go and patch all the ebuilds that installed stuff in /var/run with a one-liner like this at the end of src_install: It's a good idea to do so to avoid the check coming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable sys-devel/gcc USE flag changes

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/16/2013 04:00 PM, Michael Weber wrote: On 01/16/2013 06:33 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Yes, sorry for the confusion. I use more than one package manager, and when doing an update or upgrade I'm basically flipping a coin. hehe, as long as we don't --dist-upgrade ;-) the g was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable sys-devel/gcc USE flag changes

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/16/2013 09:32 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/16/2013 12:24 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 16/01/13 11:47 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/16/2013 11:36 AM, Michael Weber wrote: emerge --upgrade with a predefined EMERGE_UPGRADE_OPTS in make.conf (where EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS lives).

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/17/2013 07:17 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 01:29 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/13/2013 04:59 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 13-01-2013 a las 04:54 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/13/2013 04:18 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: What about this approach? You should use

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/17/2013 08:00 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Another try ;) Looks good to me. -- Thanks, Zac

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/17/2013 08:47 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:47:18 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: REPLACING_VERSIONS always refers to packages with identical SLOT to the current package No it doesn't. If you have foo-1:a and foo-2:b installed, and then you install foo

Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...

2013-01-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/17/2013 12:32 AM, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: On 1/16/2013 11:32, Alexis Ballier wrote: Other option: kill the server subprofiles, keep profiles/target/server and let people finally set /etc/make.profile as a dir and play with multiple inheritance. We don't need dozens of subprofiles with

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-21 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/21/2013 07:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: My suspicion is that portage's environment save/restore process will overwrite any setting I attempt to make on the destination host. If necessary, you can use /etc/portage/bashrc to override CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL for binary packages. Something like this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-21 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/21/2013 08:10 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 01/21/2013 10:56 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/21/2013 07:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: My suspicion is that portage's environment save/restore process will overwrite any setting I attempt to make on the destination host. If necessary, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/22/2013 01:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 22 January 2013 03:56, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/21/2013 07:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: My suspicion is that portage's environment save/restore process will overwrite any setting I attempt to make on the destination host

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/21/2013 10:22 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: 22.01.2013 08:23, Mike Gilbert wrote: I guess this change is ok, given that I can opt-out fairly easily. Zac's workaround for binary packages makes me feel better too. I am curious, can not this check be added to eclass? Or eclass does not know

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree

2013-01-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/24/2013 07:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: In general, I would recommend for any library maintainers, to either file bugs against the rdeps of a package or directly update the rdeps (with permission, of course) when implementing sub-slots. Of course, I believe the rdeps of a library can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree

2013-01-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/23/2013 12:42 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: It might be pretty usefull to actually see where the deps needed to be updated so we can take use of this feature where possible (also its a hint for lib maintainers to update their libs and see real impact). Another useful hint, for those that have

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/27/2013 03:26 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 00:26 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Just to keep everyone updated, ... FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request

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