Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:13:26 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the benefit? There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed. snip [1] Come to think of it, in the recent metadata.xml / no-herd debate, wasn't having an empty herd tag ever suggested? herd / I've been championing that for what feels like 3 years now. The problem is it breaks backwards compat with all tools out there..
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
On 13:11 Wed 13 Aug , Doug Goldstein wrote: Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Would be allowed. This syntax is not actually disallowed or allowed by the current GLEP, but mentioning it would allow a metadata.xml contain all the USE flags that appear in IUSE, even the global ones. By using the above syntax, it would simply state that there is no additional descriptions or details but to just use the use.desc description. Further more, it would allow us in the future to make that mandatory and repoman would only have to check metadata.xml for your USE flag. It seems like this doesn't have much benefit and is a bit confusing to me. You now need to know which flags in metadata.xml are global so you don't allow descriptions for them. You also need to verify the globals between the two places they'll be specified (metadata.xml and use.desc for the description) so you don't have things claiming they're global but aren't. The benefit here doesn't end up saving anything at all once you have a consistency check anyway. Halcy0n also mentioned that this gets really annoying when USE flags inherited from eclasses change. You'd need to edit every metadata.xml of all inheriting packages. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpOM2C0Wc6rW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Doug Goldstein wrote: What is the benefit? Regards, There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed. Agreed, it has no benefit at all plus would lead to some kind of useless duplication of information. Stating flag name='png' / in metadata.xml for global use flags makes basically no difference to IUSE=png, except that we already have the latter one. Tobias signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:13:26 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the benefit? There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed. I personally think that this would facilitate a lot of duplication that would ultimately amount to bitrot. Of course having, say, repoman suggest cleanups would be one solution to the problem of bitrot, but then I still fail to see the advantage over having both an IUSE per ebuild as well as maintaining gentoo-x86/profiles/use.desc. In my opinion the GLEP needs clarification on this matter. It should forbid the use of these empty flag tags, and the DTD should reflect that[1]. Kind regards, JeR [1] Come to think of it, in the recent metadata.xml / no-herd debate, wasn't having an empty herd tag ever suggested? herd /
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Josh Saddler wrote: XML doesn't put a space between the attribute and the closing slash -- XHTML does. Common mistake. Also, use for attributes, rather than '. Nope, both is perfectly legal in XML (and illegal per the GDP coding style, which certainly doesn't apply to metadata.xml) :p. Cheers, -jkt
[gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Howdy all, Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Would be allowed. This syntax is not actually disallowed or allowed by the current GLEP, but mentioning it would allow a metadata.xml contain all the USE flags that appear in IUSE, even the global ones. By using the above syntax, it would simply state that there is no additional descriptions or details but to just use the use.desc description. Further more, it would allow us in the future to make that mandatory and repoman would only have to check metadata.xml for your USE flag. Comments, Suggestions, Input are all welcome. -- Doug Goldstein Gentoo Developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Would be allowed. This syntax is not actually disallowed or allowed by the current GLEP, but mentioning it would allow a metadata.xml contain all the USE flags that appear in IUSE, even the global ones. By using the above syntax, it would simply state that there is no additional descriptions or details but to just use the use.desc description. Further more, it would allow us in the future to make that mandatory and repoman would only have to check metadata.xml for your USE flag. Comments, Suggestions, Input are all welcome. What is the benefit? Regards, -- Santiago M. Mola Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Doug Goldstein wrote: Howdy all, Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Comments, Suggestions, Input are all welcome. If you're going for proper XML, then it should look like this: flag name=png/ XML doesn't put a space between the attribute and the closing slash -- XHTML does. Common mistake. Also, use for attributes, rather than '. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]
Santiago M. Mola wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Would be allowed. This syntax is not actually disallowed or allowed by the current GLEP, but mentioning it would allow a metadata.xml contain all the USE flags that appear in IUSE, even the global ones. By using the above syntax, it would simply state that there is no additional descriptions or details but to just use the use.desc description. Further more, it would allow us in the future to make that mandatory and repoman would only have to check metadata.xml for your USE flag. Comments, Suggestions, Input are all welcome. What is the benefit? Regards, There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed.
