Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-17 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 11:56, Andrew Savchenko wrote: frankly it looks like to me that we are just selling our freedom, slowly, bit by bit. Sadly, I think most Gentoo devs are way past the point of caring. But, for what it's worth, I agree with you

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-16 Thread Francesco Riosa
Il 16/04/2015 12:41, Peter Stuge ha scritto: Rich Freeman wrote: If people want pure-FOSS tools, they need to make it happen. Selfless work lives on moral support among a few other things. listen: Git is the child of bitkeeper closing it's freeware program it gave the kernel community a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-16 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: Jenkins, Buildbot and others are existing libre options in this ecosystem, but aren't keeping pace with development. Politics that somehow matter usually require compromise. The (rhetorical) question is, what is most important? .. The only choices we actually have

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Why should we not be able to benefit from really good closed-source CI tools that are offered for free to the open-source community? Because it may not be in line with Gentoo politics. Jenkins, Buildbot and others are existing libre options in this ecosystem, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: Why should we not be able to benefit from really good closed-source CI tools that are offered for free to the open-source community? Because it may not be in line with Gentoo politics. Jenkins,

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello, On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:13:02 + Robin H. Johnson wrote: Bircoph: mgorny has worked with infra to get something that is suitable. _ANY_ CI is an improvement over no CI. Yes and no, this depends on implications of such improvement. If travis will become essential for Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: Argument about saving Gentoo Foundation financial resources by using hardware for CI for free is heard and taken. This is a serious one and I can't argue here. But frankly it looks like to me that we are just selling

[gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo Social Contract meanings of dependant notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Bircoph: mgorny has worked with infra to get something that is suitable. _ANY_ CI is an improvement over no CI. Our constraints are: - Should interoperate via a NON-GitHub-specific Webhook trigger - Yes, per my prior email to lists, we can send a notification to anything that can take