Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
On 11/16/2019 3:14 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:08 AM Michael 'veremitz' Everitt > wrote: >> >> On 16/11/19 16:59, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jaco Kroon wrote: Hi, On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware >> installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode >> packages.) > Should last-rite all of them, IMO. > I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and therefore I agree. I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an issue, read: embedded type systems). The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. >>> USE=savedconfig allows you to choose exactly which files to install :) >>> >> I've never found a good way (yet...) to figure out how to write a fresh new >> 'savedconfig' if you haven't ever previously emerged the package in >> question. Does anyone have a good method for this, that doesn't require >> unpacking the whole nine yards (Megs, Gigs...) first? > > You could look at the upstream git repo and make a list based on that. > > Or, since you have to download the tarball anyway, ebuild ... unpack > it and inspect. > > Or, use the live ebuild to avoid downloading the same data multiple > times per tarball. > > Or, if you want maximal bandwidth savings don't bother with any of > this and install the files you want manually since the files aren't > going to change. > This last point is not true wrt iwlwifi. Its filename(s) change with every other kernel release. They accept new versions and ban old ones within the driver. Brian
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:08 AM Michael 'veremitz' Everitt wrote: > > On 16/11/19 16:59, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jaco Kroon wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: > >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware > installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode > packages.) > >>> Should last-rite all of them, IMO. > >>> > >> I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and > >> therefore I agree. > >> > >> I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware > >> for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an > >> issue, read: embedded type systems). > >> > >> The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of > >> install. > > USE=savedconfig allows you to choose exactly which files to install :) > > > I've never found a good way (yet...) to figure out how to write a fresh new > 'savedconfig' if you haven't ever previously emerged the package in > question. Does anyone have a good method for this, that doesn't require > unpacking the whole nine yards (Megs, Gigs...) first? You could look at the upstream git repo and make a list based on that. Or, since you have to download the tarball anyway, ebuild ... unpack it and inspect. Or, use the live ebuild to avoid downloading the same data multiple times per tarball. Or, if you want maximal bandwidth savings don't bother with any of this and install the files you want manually since the files aren't going to change.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
Hi, On 2019/11/16 19:08, Michael 'veremitz' Everitt wrote: > On 16/11/19 16:59, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jaco Kroon wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware > installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode > packages.) Should last-rite all of them, IMO. >>> I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and >>> therefore I agree. >>> >>> I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware >>> for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an >>> issue, read: embedded type systems). >>> >>> The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. >> USE=savedconfig allows you to choose exactly which files to install :) >> > I've never found a good way (yet...) to figure out how to write a fresh new > 'savedconfig' if you haven't ever previously emerged the package in > question. Does anyone have a good method for this, that doesn't require > unpacking the whole nine yards (Megs, Gigs...) first? > I Agree. And for that matter, knowing which files to actually install, and what to filter out. With the split packages I know I want firmware for something specific. With the big package it really is much harder. That said: generally I just merge the big package by default, unless I have a specific reason to not do so (which is seldom). Bandwidth is much less of an issue now than it was a decade ago, but still, if you only need a few MB of firmware, why download the whole lot first? Kind Regards, Jaco
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
On 16/11/19 16:59, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jaco Kroon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode packages.) >>> Should last-rite all of them, IMO. >>> >> I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and >> therefore I agree. >> >> I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware >> for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an >> issue, read: embedded type systems). >> >> The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. > USE=savedconfig allows you to choose exactly which files to install :) > I've never found a good way (yet...) to figure out how to write a fresh new 'savedconfig' if you haven't ever previously emerged the package in question. Does anyone have a good method for this, that doesn't require unpacking the whole nine yards (Megs, Gigs...) first? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:06 AM Jaco Kroon wrote: > > Hi, > > On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware > >> installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode > >> packages.) > > Should last-rite all of them, IMO. > > > I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and > therefore I agree. > > I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware > for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an > issue, read: embedded type systems). > > The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. USE=savedconfig allows you to choose exactly which files to install :)
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
[2019-11-16 11:05:54+0200] Jaco Kroon: > On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware > >> installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode > >> packages.) > > Should last-rite all of them, IMO. > > > I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and > therefore I agree. > > I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware > for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an > issue, read: embedded type systems). > > The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. Well there is savedconfig on linux-firmware for a reason.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
Hi, On 2019/11/15 21:35, Matt Turner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware >> installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode >> packages.) > Should last-rite all of them, IMO. > I both agree and disagree with this. It's the simpler solution and therefore I agree. I disagree because in some cases I really only want specific firmware for specific sets of hardware (especially where space constraints are an issue, read: embedded type systems). The current linux-firmware package is getting quite big in terms of install. Kind Regards, Jaco
Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:20 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware > installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode > packages.) Should last-rite all of them, IMO.
[gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-firmware/iwl1000-ucode
This installs firmware for the Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1000 device. I no longer have any hardware to test it. The package is somewhat redundant, because sys-kernel/linux-firmware installs the same files. (Same for all other sys-firmware/iwl*-ucode packages.) Ulrich signature.asc Description: PGP signature