Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
After all, we need to have further discussion on every single aspect so the previous meeting didn't decide anything at all The log is here [1] if anyone is interested in. [1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/files/meeting-1-log.txt On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Torsten Veller wrote: > * Tobias Scherbaum : > > Accidentally I noticed an initial project meeting which was announced > > via planet.g.o - but I wasn't able to attend that meeting, as i > > noticed it just a day or two before. > > The meeting was also announced on the wiki alias. Five days before the > meeting you should have got a mail. I think this is sufficient. > > -- > Regards Torsten > >
[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
* Tobias Scherbaum : > Accidentally I noticed an initial project meeting which was announced > via planet.g.o - but I wasn't able to attend that meeting, as i > noticed it just a day or two before. The meeting was also announced on the wiki alias. Five days before the meeting you should have got a mail. I think this is sufficient. -- Regards Torsten
[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
René 'Necoro' Neumann posted on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:26:18 +0200 as excerpted: > Both points also apply to the audio captcha, as you have to a) > understand the word and b) from this infer the correct writing. Which > becomes even more difficult as English is a language, where the > spelling/pronounciation-relation is quite loose (plus you have > British/American spelling varieties). Good point. Captchas are a bit like radiation or chemo treatments that try to kill the cancer (spam) without killing the human, aren't they? If the anti-cancer/ anti-spam treatment's to be worthwhile at all, it seems one must accept that it be potent enough that it will kill some of the good guys in the process. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.04.2010 20:11, schrieb Duncan: > William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:18:41 -0500 as excerpted: > >> - a phrase captcha (complete the phrase) > > The thing I've always read about these is that they tend to discriminate > against those for whom the language isn't their native language. [...] > Spelling captchas... > tend to run into problems with folks that can't spell. That's apparently > a big enough problem a lot of sites try and reject spelling captchas. Both points also apply to the audio captcha, as you have to a) understand the word and b) from this infer the correct writing. Which becomes even more difficult as English is a language, where the spelling/pronounciation-relation is quite loose (plus you have British/American spelling varieties). - - René -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvAwsoACgkQ4UOg/zhYFuDM+wCbB+vkP+PnoTU8jnJv89Q2MdGk 46gAn1bsovc1aPbwWzP9A2g+iSGIf65r =SoEU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:18:41 -0500 as excerpted: > - a phrase captcha (complete the phrase) The thing I've always read about these is that they tend to discriminate against those for whom the language isn't their native language. Math problems are generally agreed to be reasonably universal, however, tho that can change if wording is chosen to try to defeat a machine solution (running into the language problem again). Spelling captchas... tend to run into problems with folks that can't spell. That's apparently a big enough problem a lot of sites try and reject spelling captchas. Perhaps a mix such that users can try again with a different category, however... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
[gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
Ben de Groot posted on Mon, 05 Apr 2010 02:25:11 +0200 as excerpted: > On 5 April 2010 02:02, Alistair Bush wrote: >> I'm not overly concerned about what wiki we use. But may I suggest we >> approach gentoo-wiki to see whether they would like to be involved. > > If anybody wants to approach them, that is fine by me. I'm probably not > the right person for that job, due to my critical remarks. We have > approached the gentoo-wiki.com owner in past and he then declined to > cooperate. There's also the very real license issue. As others have mentioned, that no-commercial-use bit isn't particularly appropriate for a Gentoo-official wiki. So even if the gentoo-wiki.com owner was ideally cooperative, while the value of his experience and contacts shouldn't be underestimated, the direct content contribution would have to be limited to pointers from each site to the other, and enthusiastic moral support. But there's no use making an enemy of what can be a friend, either. So please do make a deliberate and continued effort to keep the communication lines open, to the degree possible from this side, anyway. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
