[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: I have a few ideas about this that I'll have to put in writing and share later, but let me start by proposing that for such a change we require the support of at least 2/3 of the devs that vote *and* a minimum of 1/3 of all devs. I'd use absolute majority

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-03 Thread Richard Freeman
Luca Barbato wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: I have a few ideas about this that I'll have to put in writing and share later, but let me start by proposing that for such a change we require the support of at least 2/3 of the devs that vote *and* a minimum of 1/3 of all devs. I'd use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Doug Goldstein wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ned Luddso...@gentoo.org wrote: Meetings will likely go back to one time per month and be +m with +v be handed out per request with open chat pre/post meetings. The reason for this is to keep the meetings on-track. I won't engage in endless

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ferris McCormick
There's a lot of good stuff to think about here. For what it's worth, some initial comments. On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 19:33 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. Why would you vote for somebody who did not even publish a manifesto? I don't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be really vocal in what seems like a never ending battle. That needs

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Tobias Scherbaumdertobi...@gentoo.org wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Alec Warner wrote: What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council did decide the council itself can change it's rules): - a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 10:54:05 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home. Denis.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Alec Warner wrote: What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council did decide the council itself can change