[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:20 +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what exceptions exist, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:51 -0600 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: Probably OT, sorry. Isn't it time we gained this concept of noarch for packages that only install text files or packages that don't compile anything... No, since there's no such thing as an app that's guaranteed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 27.1.2011 17:30, Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:51 -0600 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: Probably OT, sorry. Isn't it time we gained this concept of noarch for packages that only install text files or packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:48:54 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Dne 27.1.2011 17:30, Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:51 -0600 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: Probably OT, sorry. Isn't it time we gained

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread William Hubbs
Hi, The accessibility team has permission to mark some app-accessibility packages stable because they require specialized hardware: app-accessibility/brltty app-accessibility/speakup (this one will become moot when linux 2.6.37 goes stable) Just to clarify, we are talking only about the x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok bad example on the posix-sh file. But anyway even you can check what stuff the thing does and decide upon it. Anyway even tho you nitpick on something you don't need to. There is at minimal the binary files example where you just place them

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org: Just to clarify, we are talking only about the x86 architecture right? At the moment yes. On the exceptions page I linked there are some conditions under which you can stabilise yourself after permission is granted: * The prerequisites of stabilisation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:07:30 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Ok bad example on the posix-sh file. But anyway even you can check what stuff the thing does and decide upon it. Anyway even tho you nitpick on something you don't need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 05:30 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: No, since there's no such thing as an app that's guaranteed to be portable. What about app-doc/php-doc? Yeah, single use case. But I feel stupid requesting keywords for it. It's all text. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 27.1.2011 18:16, Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:07:30 +0100 Tomáa Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Ok bad example on the posix-sh file. But anyway even you can check what stuff the thing does and decide upon it. Anyway

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:59:53 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: If depgraph is to be found broken for such architecture it is shadowed (or treated as without keywords, whatever we find to like in our implementation in package manager)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 06:59 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Adding ebuilds with noarch keyword must be preceded with: All ebuilds seeking to have this feature implemented must be discussed on #gentoo-dev mailing list and proven not having portability issues. So instead of opening a bug for all arches, I post

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Duncan
Tomáš Chvátal posted on Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:59:53 +0100 as excerpted: If ebuild contains ~noarch in KEYWORDS it is not permitted to contain anything else. /If/ we're going to go this route, at least noarch plus -arch, so archs can at least opt-out. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:27:57 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Tomáš Chvátal posted on Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:59:53 +0100 as excerpted: If ebuild contains ~noarch in KEYWORDS it is not permitted to contain anything else. /If/ we're going to go this route, at least noarch plus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 27.1.2011 19:09, Matti Bickel napsal(a): On 01/27/2011 06:59 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Adding ebuilds with noarch keyword must be preceded with: All ebuilds seeking to have this feature implemented must be discussed on #gentoo-dev mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:36:59 + as excerpted: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:27:57 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Tomáš Chvátal posted on Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:59:53 +0100 as excerpted: If ebuild contains ~noarch in KEYWORDS it is not permitted to contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 07:42 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Only to gain the ~allarch. When it gains it gets tested by arch member of any team and stabled. Verstanden? :) Yep, I think I did. But what if introduce, say, a non-portable find command into a new revision that breaks on some arches. I'll carry over

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:30:12 + Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:51 -0600 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: Probably OT, sorry. Isn't it time we gained this concept of noarch for packages that only install text files or packages

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: On Monday, January 24, 2011 07:31:20 Christian Faulhammer wrote: over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org: I think it would be better if we kept a single list instead of compiling a separate list for every arch. Mike's proposal sounds like the ideal solution. If one wants we can autogenerate a list. For now I will collect it manually and move it over once

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, January 24, 2011 07:31:20 Christian Faulhammer wrote: over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what exceptions exist, I compiled a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-24 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 24/01/2011 13:31, Christian Faulhammer a écrit : Hi, over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what exceptions exist, I compiled a list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-24 Thread Markos Chandras
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 01:31:20PM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what exceptions exist, I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-24 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/24/2011 07:31 AM, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what exceptions exist, I compiled a list of