Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-12 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/12/2010 12:56 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I remember very clearly as you and I were both council members at the time. My point is that this discussion does not need to even happen and the council shouldn't even remotely be involved here. I assumed the best way to change policy would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-12 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/12/2010 12:56 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I remember very clearly as you and I were both council members at the time. My point is that this discussion does not need to even happen and the council shouldn't even

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to going to the council, I'd more likely just remove MythTV from the tree and maintain it in an overlay. I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to going to the council, I'd more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say oh we have to stop development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor. The council's purpose is to help decide between different technical solutions and encourage people to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 07:47:24PM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say oh we have to stop development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor. The council's purpose is to help

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-07-2010 21:56, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. Jorge, I remember very clearly as you and I were

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:34:37 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:30:42AM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: The standing policy is still not to remove any public functionality from eclasses. If we decide to start removing functionality the council should set

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-10 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:34:37 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 09:30:42AM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: The standing policy is still not to remove any public functionality from