[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-16 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:05:19 -0500 as excerpted:

 there was a regression in 0.8.1, so 0.8.2 is now the stable candidate.
 
 I propose thatsince the differences between 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 are very
 small, we should keep the news item date and stabilization date from my
 original announcement.
 
 - news item release on 5/1 - stabilization on 5/8.

How are docs doing?  Is there a sample handbook update yet?  I've not seen 
much action on that bug, but that doesn't mean it's not happening behind 
the scenes.  Still, lack of news from that front has me worried.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman




[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:49:36 -0500 as excerpted:

 Openrc is not just a gentoo init system; I know that at least Alpine
 Linux [1] also uses it.
 
 William
 
 [1] http://www.alpinelinux.org

Thanks for the specific mention.  I've seen non-gentoo users mentioned a 
couple times in bugs, etc, but had no clue who that might be.  Now there's 
at least some idea.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman




[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers posted on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:43:27 +0200 as excerpted:

 1) It's a couple of years old now. :)
 2) Having used it all that time on some systems, I don't see that many
superficial changes, or for that matter, deviations from the old init
system. I would rather think baselayout-2/openrc simply extends and
improves on baselayout-1.

Having used and watched the new version evolve, I agree, to a point.  Yes 
it's an extension of the old.  But like that old tale of the frog in the 
boiling water, I think more has changed than we may realize at first.

Or another way to put it:  If it's so close to the old version, there 
should be little protest in going back.  But I know at least personally, 
I've *NO* interest in doing that!

For one thing, /real/ parallel boot makes quite a difference!  For 
another, I remember baselayout-1's lack of real dependency based ordering 
in early-boot, with the arbitrary ordered list of early-start services as 
a substitute since it couldn't manage dependencies at that level.

But that said, it's a definite extension of the ideas found in 
baselayout-1, indeed.  Stable Gentooers should find much they already know 
in the new system.  It's certainly not the change that switching to 
systemd, for example, would be.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman




[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-12 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:08:32 +0200 as excerpted:

 On 04/12/11 16:56, William Hubbs wrote:
 
 at long last, we have an openrc stable candidate.
 
 Thanks to all who kept chiseling away at this issue

From a user who has been following developments since the baselayout 1.13 
era, with the bugs filed and ultimately fixed to prove it...

It really feels good to be this close, as for awhile I wondered if there'd 
forever be that gap between ~arch and stable.  It really did take a number 
of people a monumental amount of effort to bridge that gap, and we owe 
them a lot of gratitude for it, the more so as we see all that effort 
paying off. =:^)

Thanks!

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman