Re: [gentoo-dev] System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 13/10/2008 в 14:34 -0500, Jeremy Olexa пишет:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, 
> > because they could be
> > removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system packages out 
> > completly?
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221311
> 
> Please provide reasons/justifications for the proposal of removing

Our documentation, QA team insist that we should not depend on system
packages and there are good reasons to do that. But still above bug
clearly states different. Also if we consider perl and some other
packages, they also could became target to be removed... But I'm not
going to repeat discussion we already had recently:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54035

So yes, there is ambiguity and the question is valid. But since we had
discussion recently I don't see what else we can discuss now.

-- 
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-dev] System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-13 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see packages like bison, flex, perl or sed in the system set. And i also 
> see ebuilds depending on
> them. I also heard from Peter Volkov (pva) that there where discussions about 
> removing different
> packages from the system set. So now my question is:
>
> Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, 
> because they could be
> removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system packages out 
> completly?

In my quick 30 seconds of searching I found at least one bug on this
very issue. You may find more if you look for them. ;)

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221311

Please provide reasons/justifications for the proposal of removing
packages from the system set or from the ebuilds instead of just
raising random questions (which end up with no results and hence just
"noise").

-Jeremy



[gentoo-dev] System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-12 Thread Thomas Sachau
I see packages like bison, flex, perl or sed in the system set. And i also see 
ebuilds depending on
them. I also heard from Peter Volkov (pva) that there where discussions about 
removing different
packages from the system set. So now my question is:

Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, 
because they could be
removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system packages out 
completly?

-- 
Thomas Sachau

Gentoo Linux Developer



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