Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/16/2019 14:19, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 07:17:09PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, William Hubbs wrote: >> >>> Back in the day, the s in /sbin and /usr/sbin meant static, not super >>> user. All binaries in those directories were statically

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, William Hubbs wrote: > Please read the links I posted before --specifically the comments > from Rob. You mean this? http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html It only says that "in 1974 [...] everything was statically linked", but not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 07:17:09PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, William Hubbs wrote: > > > Back in the day, the s in /sbin and /usr/sbin meant static, not super > > user. All binaries in those directories were statically linked. > > Where have you found that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, William Hubbs wrote: > Back in the day, the s in /sbin and /usr/sbin meant static, not super > user. All binaries in those directories were statically linked. Where have you found that statement? The "s" stands for "system", not for "static". See for example [1].

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Jaco, On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:18:38AM +0200, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Hi, *snip* > For what it's worth.  All of my systems are installed with a fixed-size > 512MB / with everything else (including /usr) on separate LVs. > > Whilst sbin vs bin is just a matter of what's available, to me it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:08:14PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 10/15/2019 13:34, David Seifert wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert > >> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert > >>> wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 12:03 +0200, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Hi, > > -- large trim -- > > > For what it's worth. All of my systems are installed with a fixed- > > > size > > > 512MB / with everything else (including /usr) on separate LVs. > > > > > > Whilst sbin vs bin is just a matter of what's

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, -- large trim -- >> For what it's worth. All of my systems are installed with a fixed- >> size >> 512MB / with everything else (including /usr) on separate LVs. >> >> Whilst sbin vs bin is just a matter of what's available, to me it >> makes >> sense to keep these split. To me it's always

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread David Seifert
On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 11:18 +0200, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Hi, > > On 2019/10/15 19:34, David Seifert wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert > > > > > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-16 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, On 2019/10/15 19:34, David Seifert wrote: > On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert >>> wrote: On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/15/2019 13:34, David Seifert wrote: > On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert >>> wrote: On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, Oct

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread David Seifert
On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert > > wrote: > > > On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert > > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert wrote: > > On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert > > wrote: > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread David Seifert
On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert > wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:43 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert wrote: > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-12 Thread David Seifert
On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote: > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > > > * Some distros have not just merged /

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-12 Thread Dennis Schridde
On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they > > > > > > have also merged /usr/bin and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-12 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they > > have also merged /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. By giving > > users the choice of merging */bin and */sbin, > > Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote: > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they > have also merged /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. By giving > users the choice of merging */bin and */sbin, > Gentoo follows suit. > What about the scenario when /bin has been merged