Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item - v2
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here's v2 of the news item. I tried to address the concern with showing this news item to anyone with catalyst and not only running catalyst-. If anyone insists, I don't mind restricting the news item to , in which case I'll drop the note about this only affecting . I've committed this news item to the gentoo-news repository. Regards, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto Gentoo Developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On 29/01/14 10:36 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Matt Turner wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: +Display-If-Installed: dev-util/catalyst Display-If-Installed: =dev-util/catalyst- Matt, my plan was to show this to anyone using catalyst. I believe this news item is relevant and interesting for anyone using catalyst, but if others disagree, I can restrict it to only those using catalyst-. Regards, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto Gentoo Developer If you insist on showing it to everyone, make it clear that this only affects people on -. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:25:08 -0800 W. Trevor King wk...@tremily.us wrote: +report issues to the catalyst team, This reads “catalyst@” to me, which is fine if that's what you indend. However, you may want to suggest gentoo-catalyst@ instead, if you want a wider net of possible responders. Issues should be tracked in our bug tracker so that everyone can find them (including users subscribed to random mailing lists). https://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Hosted%20Projects Component: Catalyst Regards, jer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +After many years of stalled development I'm quite allergic to statements like this. Remember that you may not really be representing everyone when you express your own opinion - even if it is shared by many. many years of stalled development can only be true if there was no development whatsoever for many years - which I don't really think fits catalyst at all. I think the statements discards the efforts that have gone into catalyst during the last many years - however small! //Peter
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Peter Stuge wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +After many years of stalled development I'm quite allergic to statements like this. Remember that you may not really be representing everyone when you express your own opinion - even if it is shared by many. many years of stalled development can only be true if there was no development whatsoever for many years - which I don't really think fits catalyst at all. I think the statements discards the efforts that have gone into catalyst during the last many years - however small! I understand your comment and in principle agree with it. However, in this case, as I was one of those closest to the catalyst development in the mentioned period, I believe I'm entitled to use such words about myself ;) In any case, I'll present v2 in a bit to address the comments thus far. //Peter
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item - v2
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Here's v2 of the news item. I tried to address the concern with showing this news item to anyone with catalyst and not only running catalyst-. If anyone insists, I don't mind restricting the news item to , in which case I'll drop the note about this only affecting . Hi. I would like to commit the following news item in the next few days. diff --git a/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt b/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt new file mode 100644 index 000..7c5736e --- /dev/null +++ b/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +Title: Catalyst head changes +Author: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org +Content-Type: text/plain +Posted: 2014-01-31 +Revision: 1 +News-Item-Format: 1.0 +Display-If-Installed: dev-util/catalyst + +After many years of stalled development, the catalyst repository is +going to have major changes introduced to master in the next few days. +The work done in the rewrite branch[1] by Brian Dolbec, is finally +going to be merged into master through the pending branch[2]. +Anyone using catalyst to produce stages is advised to use the latest +release (currently 2.0.16). If you need to track the stable branch, +please use the catalyst 2.0. ebuild that tracks the 2.X branch. +Anyone wanting to help with catalyst development and testing is +encouraged to use the version and report issues to the catalyst +team, pending the understanding that master may be broken during the +next few months. + + [1] - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rewrite-on-master + [2] - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/pending diff --git a/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt b/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt new file mode 100644 index 000..0ea8a28 --- /dev/null +++ b/2014/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes/2014-01-31-catalyst-head-changes.en.txt @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +Title: Catalyst head changes +Author: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org +Content-Type: text/plain +Posted: 2014-01-31 +Revision: 1 +News-Item-Format: 1.0 +Display-If-Installed: dev-util/catalyst + +After a long period on life support, the catalyst repository is +going to have major changes introduced to master in the next few days. +The work done in the rewrite branch[1] by Brian Dolbec, is finally +going to be merged into master through the pending branch[2]. +Anyone using catalyst to produce stages is advised to use the latest +release (currently 2.0.16). If you need to track the stable branch, +please use the catalyst 2.0. ebuild that tracks the 2.X branch. +Anyone wanting to help with catalyst development and testing is +encouraged to use the version and report issues to the catalyst +team, pending the understanding that master may be broken during the +next few months. Please report any issues to our bugzilla[3]. You +can always find us in the #gentoo-releng irc channel of freenode. +To be clear, these changes will only affect catalyst- and the +master branch of the repository. If you're not using either, this +doesn't affect you. + + [1] - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rewrite-on-master + [2] - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/catalyst.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/pending + [3] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Hosted%20Projects +Component: Catalyst Regards, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto Gentoo Developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item - v2
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 04:21:39PM +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +If you need to track the stable branch, please use the catalyst +2.0. ebuild that tracks the 2.X branch. How about “If you want to track the stable 2.X branch, please use the catalyst 2.0. ebuild.”? Other than that minor tweak, it looks good to me. I'm agnostic on - audience restriction ;). Cheers, Trevor -- This email may be signed or encrypted with GnuPG (http://www.gnupg.org). For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item - v2
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 08:57:36 -0800 W. Trevor King wk...@tremily.us wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 04:21:39PM +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +If you need to track the stable branch, please use the catalyst +2.0. ebuild that tracks the 2.X branch. How about “If you want to track the stable 2.X branch, please use the catalyst 2.0. ebuild.”? Other than that minor tweak, it looks good to me. I'm agnostic on - audience restriction ;). Cheers, Trevor Yeah, I agree, it looks good overall. Just that one minor tweak
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 02:14:53AM -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +After many years of stalled development, the catalyst repository is +going to have major changes introduced to master in the next few days. “the next few days” sounds a little optimistic to me ;). “next few months”, which you use later, seems more accurate here too. +report issues to the catalyst team, This reads “catalyst@” to me, which is fine if that's what you indend. However, you may want to suggest gentoo-catalyst@ instead, if you want a wider net of possible responders. Cheers, Trevor -- This email may be signed or encrypted with GnuPG (http://www.gnupg.org). For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, W. Trevor King wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 02:14:53AM -0100, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: +After many years of stalled development, the catalyst repository is +going to have major changes introduced to master in the next few days. ?the next few days? sounds a little optimistic to me ;). ?next few months?, which you use later, seems more accurate here too. In the next few days, master is going to be open again for work. It doesn't mean we're going to get immediate commits or that it will break the next day. In the next few months, no one should expect master to work / build all the time. +report issues to the catalyst team, This reads ?catalyst@? to me, which is fine if that's what you indend. However, you may want to suggest gentoo-catalyst@ instead, if you want a wider net of possible responders. I didn't use an email as I didn't mean to imply that the reports should be done by email. I expect we will prefer using bugzilla or poking us in #gentoo-releng, at least for quick status inquiries / updates. Cheers, Trevor Regards, Jorge.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: +Display-If-Installed: dev-util/catalyst Display-If-Installed: =dev-util/catalyst-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Matt Turner wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: +Display-If-Installed: dev-util/catalyst Display-If-Installed: =dev-util/catalyst- Matt, my plan was to show this to anyone using catalyst. I believe this news item is relevant and interesting for anyone using catalyst, but if others disagree, I can restrict it to only those using catalyst-. Regards, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto Gentoo Developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] Catalyst news item
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: my plan was to show this to anyone using catalyst. I believe this news item is relevant and interesting for anyone using catalyst, but if others disagree, I can restrict it to only those using catalyst-. The new is that the master branch may be unstable, which is only relevant to people using the master branch. *shrug*
