Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/09/2010 05:51 PM, Dror Levin wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Petteri Räty
I was asked on #gentoo-council to respond to this post so I will. It should also be noted council members usually speak as individual members instead of for the council as a whole. On 04/07/2010 06:00 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC in #gentoo-council. If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-09 Thread Dror Levin
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:05, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/07/2010 12:05 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC in #gentoo-council. If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, simply followup to this message. Ulrich Two things already discussed on this mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC in #gentoo-council. If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, simply followup to this message. VALID_USE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:02:25 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: 4) if there are questions re: use cycle breaking or other bits, feel free to ask prior please- council meeting times unfortunately right now intersect badly with my paying work so it's hard to be online to answer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/08/10 15:29, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:02:25 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: 4) if there are questions re: use cycle breaking or other bits, feel free to ask prior please- council meeting times unfortunately right now intersect badly with my paying

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:08:57 +0200 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Please detail your cycle breaking algorithm that works in such a way that it's guaranteed not to toggle flags that will break a system, but that does not require any changes to be made to ebuilds etc telling the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 11:05, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Next monthly council meeting will be at 19 April 2010, 18:00 UTC in #gentoo-council. If you have any topics you want us to discuss or even vote about, simply followup to this message. 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal == [...] Can council please decide to honor the wish from developers to implement this? The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 17:00, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Before we go any further, let me make the following PA announcement:  1 - If you want to improve a project or subproject the best (and often only) thing to do is to join it.  2 - The council isn't a super-nanny metaproject with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single individual project. And almost 100% of the time this needs to run through a GLEP,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 20:05, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single individual project.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hi Ben, On 7 April 2010 22:44, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] 1.  Project Description The elected Gentoo Council decides on global issues and policies that affect multiple projects in Gentoo. GLEP 39 also says Global issues will be decided by an elected Gentoo council. So

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Ben de Groot
On 7 April 2010 23:02, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't understand what you expect the council to do in some of these cases. Taking the website redesign or consolidation of documentation as examples, do you want them to: a) Decide that this should be done? b) Call for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/07/2010 11:00 AM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: 5. centralize developer documentation = This is an interesting idea which I believe I have seen discussed on irc at some point. Feel free to work on a GLEP to address that. To be honest, this doesn't even need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Sure, it is the best way to make big changes Why then use anything else than the best tool when you can use the best tool? I didn't say that he should work on a GLEP though, but that he should feel free to do so, which is