On 17 December 2012 18:55, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/12/17 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org:
Please don't. For most users this is a waste of resources.
On first look it seems like waste of resources.
On second hand it makes stuff easy wrt bugreports provided by users.
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
1) --- kde-base/kate
-
Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
# sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep \.debug) ; do
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
1) --- kde-base/kate
-
Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
# sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate |
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław:
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
(snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.)
On my 32-bit machines I have...
FLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
W dniu 18.12.2012 13:03, Sven Eden pisze:
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław:
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
(snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.)
On my 32-bit machines I have...
FLAGS=-O2 -march=native
Il 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g
El lun, 17-12-2012 a las 08:55 -0500, Rich Freeman escribió:
[...]
I usually keep a debug file in /etc/portage/env.d and symlink it to
anything I'm working on.
Rich
I do the same, for example, I had end.d files for all evince related
packages to get proper backtraces as I was getting
On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
enabled in the developer profile.
Why, somebody
2012/12/17 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu:
On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:11:38 schrieb Tomáš Chvátal:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default
On 17 December 2012 18:26, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/12/17 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu:
On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to
On 17/12/2012 11:33, Sven Eden wrote:
on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
That's -ggdb that increases the size.
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On 17/12/2012 11:26, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
I silently hope they copy the default cflags to their make.conf and
then set march and add more stuff, rather than starting from scratch.
Also we can pop-up newsitem asking them to put it into cflags ;-)
They don't, they use those coming from
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:11 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default
2012/12/17 Sven Eden sven.e...@gmx.de:
Hello Tomáš,
on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
And this is the result: (Yes, I have a dedictated partition for that.)
~ $ LC_ALL=C df -h /usr/lib/debug/.
Filesystem Size
2012/12/17 Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org:
The bigger problem is not disk space but memory usage at link time. Try
building something like *-webkit-* or firefox with debugging CFLAGS on a
machine with limited memory.
That ain't problem, we acutally can patch in those packages to
2012/12/17 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org:
Please don't. For most users this is a waste of resources.
On first look it seems like waste of resources.
On second hand it makes stuff easy wrt bugreports provided by users.
And believe me when I say most upstreams are pissed by gentoo reports
because
On 17/12/2012 11:54, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
That ain't problem, we acutally can patch in those packages to strip
the debug by default and add there useflag to not strip those for
those really needing it.
No. USE=debug is for _something else_ entirely. And I'm going to kick
hard whoever tries to
Il 17/12/2012 11:42, Diego Elio Pettenò ha scritto:
On 17/12/2012 11:33, Sven Eden wrote:
on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
That's -ggdb that increases the size.
In short FEATURES=compressdebug should be stable and
On 17/12/2012 12:37, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
In short FEATURES=compressdebug should be stable and default before you
(gentoo) decide for something like this.
As mentioned somewhere else in this thread some packages are on the
unbeareable side when compiled with debug information, those
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
I silently hope they copy the default cflags to their make.conf and
then set march and add more stuff, rather than starting from scratch.
Also we can pop-up newsitem asking them to put it into cflags ;-)
You might
On 17 December 2012 10:11, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:47:24 schrieb Tomáš Chvátal:
2012/12/17 Sven Eden sven.e...@gmx.de:
Hello Tomáš,
on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS
use - march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
And this is the result: (Yes, I have a dedictated partition for
On 12/17/2012 11:11 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
users.
All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
forcing everybody out
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote:
All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
forcing everybody out there using Gentoo to have additional XGb for
debug,
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò
flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
So please stop giving this stupid suggestion, which causes enough grief
as it is without being repeated once again.
Uh, sure, insofar as it is possible to stop doing something that
you've done exactly once... :)
On 17/12/2012 15:20, Rich Freeman wrote:
Uh, sure, insofar as it is possible to stop doing something that
you've done exactly once... :)
In general, I've heard the same suggestion touted too many times
already. It's this kind of misinformation and cargo culting that often
causes `strip-flags`
On 12/17/12 2:11 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
enabled in the developer profile.
Fully seconded.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
1) --- kde-base/kate
-
Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
# sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep \.debug) ; do
xSize=$(stat -c %s $file) ; sum=$((sum+xSize)) ; done ; echo $sum
32652140
On 12/17/2012 02:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote:
All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
forcing everybody out there using
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