Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 05:08:29PM +0200, Natanael Copa wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 15:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:39:50 +0200 Natanael Copa
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | I'm initially only interested in maintaining packages where I'm the
> > | upstream maintainer as well. 
> > 
> > Ick. Rarely a good idea. That removes a layer of QA.
> 
> ok. whatever...
> 
> so, I have learned alot today.
> 
> * I can't become a proxy maintainer. (you guys will continue your
> "fight" if its a good or bad idea having proxy maintainers and meanwhile
> nothing will happen)
Yes you can. I'm a fan of proxy maintaining and would be happy to proxy
commits for you. Please poke me on irc.freenode.net (nick kloeri).
> 
> * It's a bad idea for me to become a dev since I only want to maintain
> stuff I know I will be able to maintain. (I cant start small and take
> more and more packages over time, when/if I feel I'm able to do more)
Devs only maintaining one or two packages rarely get the needed
experience to maintain a high QA imo. I think proxy maintaining in those
cases are a much better idea.
> 
> That leaves me with the conclution that its best to just continue to run
> my own local portage tree and submit bugreports once in a while and hope
> for the best, just like I have always been doing.
See above.

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Bryan Østergaard
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Steve Dibb

Natanael Copa wrote:

That leaves me with the conclution that its best to just continue to run
my own local portage tree and submit bugreports once in a while and hope
for the best, just like I have always been doing.
No matter what community you decide to participate in (Gentoo, local, 
church, whatever) there is always going to be a presence of power 
struggles, red tape, beuracracy, etc.  Sure there are people that are 
vocal, but that doesn't imply that they represent the majority.  There's 
still a great deal of people who quietly work on improving things in the 
background that never get noticed and don't make much noise.


If you don't like all the wang-fests, then just ignore them and get back 
to developing.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 15:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:39:50 +0200 Natanael Copa
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm initially only interested in maintaining packages where I'm the
> | upstream maintainer as well. 
> 
> Ick. Rarely a good idea. That removes a layer of QA.

ok. whatever...

so, I have learned alot today.

* I can't become a proxy maintainer. (you guys will continue your
"fight" if its a good or bad idea having proxy maintainers and meanwhile
nothing will happen)

* It's a bad idea for me to become a dev since I only want to maintain
stuff I know I will be able to maintain. (I cant start small and take
more and more packages over time, when/if I feel I'm able to do more)

That leaves me with the conclution that its best to just continue to run
my own local portage tree and submit bugreports once in a while and hope
for the best, just like I have always been doing.

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:39:50 +0200 Natanael Copa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'm initially only interested in maintaining packages where I'm the
| upstream maintainer as well. 

Ick. Rarely a good idea. That removes a layer of QA.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 00:00 +, Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer wrote:
> Tach Natanael,  0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)
> 
> Natanael Copa schrieb:
> > Can I become a Gentoo dev, even if I'm only maintainer of 1-3 packages?
> > I'm trying to be realistic.
> 
>  You can.  And you can even keep out of dev fights here on the mailing
> list.  On IRC you normally have a good working atmosphere, I always found
> a person who could do what was needed and they get testing back.

Ok. Where's the dev form?

I'm initially only interested in maintaining packages where I'm the
upstream maintainer as well. 

Do I have to do the dev quiz etc? If so, I'm not doing it today.

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