Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wednesday 01 June 2005 09:59 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:20 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious last chance ! and it's done -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 22:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 01 June 2005 09:59 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:20 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious last chance ! and it's done NOooo1!!! ;-) Thanks for working on that upgrade! -- Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 21:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:20 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious last chance ! can someone forward the original e-mail here to gentoo-user ? The comments back from gentoo-user have been that it works fine. One was a glowing endorsement of all the changes. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 11:03 -0500, Daniel Goller wrote: |you mean so i will not have to use 'gentoo nolvm2' on the next livecd on |my system? | | | That had nothing to do with the init scripts, so these changes would no | affect that in any way. All of the no* commands affect things that are | specific to the livecd. | then i'll have to make sure to test as many of the next livecd release candidates to see if it still requires me to specify that or not It won't. We're turning off all of the volume management in the initrd by default. This means all of them (dmraid, evms, lvm2) will be available, but not enabled. You will be required to do* if you want them on, since they caused problems for some people, much as how doscsi is not enabled by default. I'm also working on making a nice little document of all the do* no* commands available on the releases, so troubleshooting should be a bit easier for us all. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 12:08 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 11:12 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:50 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to
take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or
nodetect are passed to the release media.
speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt
need to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code
(lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to
... maybe we can do this in the ebuild ?
What ebuild? baselayout?
yes, when USE=livecd
Where would the livecd set RC_VOLUME_ORDER?
it would reset $S/etc/conf.d/rc
Why should it?
instead of having to do [[ -z ${CDBOOT} ]] all the time ... the lvm/emvs/raid
have been removed from baselayout and placed into sep addon modules ... but
only modules listed in RC_VOLUME_ORDER will be automagically sourced by
baselayout at boot
so instead of checking $CDBOOT in all the modules, we could just have the
livecd say 'dont check volume addon modules'
Where would the livecd say this?
Also, what if we *want* the livecd to check the volume addon modules?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 22:15 -0500, Daniel Goller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: | On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: | |I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to |take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or |nodetect are passed to the release media. | | | speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt need | to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code (lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... | the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to ... maybe we can do this in the | ebuild ? | -mike you mean so i will not have to use 'gentoo nolvm2' on the next livecd on my system? That had nothing to do with the init scripts, so these changes would no affect that in any way. All of the no* commands affect things that are specific to the livecd. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Friday 27 May 2005 09:40 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Where would the livecd say this? all the code i referenced was from inside baselayout ... and the livecd wouldnt do it, when you emerge baselayout with USE=livecd, the config file would be setup Also, what if we *want* the livecd to check the volume addon modules? Not My Problem ? the volume code has *always* been disabled in baselayout for livecds, nothing is changing ... plus, the startup code is for people who have configured crap already ... you dont exactly have config files on a livecd for your volumes :p -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:13 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 27 May 2005 09:40 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Where would the livecd say this? all the code i referenced was from inside baselayout ... and the livecd wouldnt do it, when you emerge baselayout with USE=livecd, the config file would be setup OK... except we don't remerge baselayout anymore... it could be done, of course... Also, what if we *want* the livecd to check the volume addon modules? Not My Problem ? the volume code has *always* been disabled in baselayout for livecds, nothing is changing ... plus, the startup code is for people who have configured crap already ... you dont exactly have config files on a livecd for your volumes :p Makes sense to me... I guess this doesn't have anything to do with the volume scanning done on the livecd... I really don't understand what any of the lvm/evms junk does anyway... and I'm sure you understand it much better than I do, so I'll take your word for it... and if something breaks, I know where to send the bugs... *grin* -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: | On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 22:15 -0500, Daniel Goller wrote: | |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |Mike Frysinger wrote: || On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: || ||I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to ||take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or ||nodetect are passed to the release media. || || || speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we |shouldnt need || to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code |(lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... || the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to ... maybe we can do this |in the || ebuild ? || -mike |you mean so i will not have to use 'gentoo nolvm2' on the next livecd on |my system? | | | That had nothing to do with the init scripts, so these changes would no | affect that in any way. All of the no* commands affect things that are | specific to the livecd. | then i'll have to make sure to test as many of the next livecd release candidates to see if it still requires me to specify that or not -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCmJZSUpKYMelfdYERAidpAJ4iy8x1IFFijFBSWnVAz0g7r90lmQCfch5C 8Xbt4qqCbmMBs2UOKefq3+o= =6mRj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious I just tested with a LVM system and it worked like it should be. I have one problem. When i boot my laptop with no network card connected, the boot process hangs until the dhcp client(dhcpcd) times out. This was not the case with the older version of baselayout. And this is not nice! :-) Lars -- need Groupware == http://www.egroupware.org hosted eGroupWare == http://www.officespot.de eGroupWare Training == http://www.outdoor-training.de/egroupware Open Business Club == https://www.openbc.com/hp/Lars_Kneschke/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:10:18AM +, Lars Kneschke wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious I just tested with a LVM system and it worked like it should be. I have one problem. When i boot my laptop with no network card connected, the boot process hangs until the dhcp client(dhcpcd) times out. This was not the case with the older version of baselayout. Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using software suspend. Regards, Peter Cech -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
lo, On Thursday 26 May 2005 08:35, Peter Cech wrote: [snip] Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using software suspend. software suspend works perfectly with this. The problem is more likely to be that your card is not supported by either ethtool or mii-tool, though that in itself is unlikely as almost every NIC I am aware is supported by one or the other. -- Benjamin Smee (strerror) 497F 5E98 1FA0 C313 EA0B 08C7 004A 66ED 448B E78C pgpdBGmmpOpD3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
works perfectly here. good work. I like the new network setup. when do you thing it changes from ~x86 to x86. On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice any regressions ? the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your system comes up :) common gotchas: - many config options have moved from /etc/rc.conf into /etc/conf.d/ files - /etc/hostname and /etc/*domainname have been moved into /etc/conf.d/ files - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/ somethings to note ... regressions with lvm/lvm2/evms will not be considered ... they have had all their code forked into the respective packages and thus are no longer part of baselayout ... bugs with those packages should be taken up with their respective maintainers -mike -- cheers, reen -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice any regressions ? the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your system comes up :) Does it support wireless devices that don't support essid scanning yet? I'm currently having to use baselayout-1.10.4 (which was removed from portage ages ago) as my BCM4306 802.11b/g chip (used via ndiswrapper) doesn't support essid scanning. - -- No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to keep awake all day. -- Nietzsche Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFClZ0YC3poscuANHARAsZpAJ4s94Qufzd11OK6K0r+pj/QRwh7GACfaHrq PYC9Wm914fB1y/ZeALFAnIM= =UJcg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 05:55 -0400, Aaron Walker wrote: Does it support wireless devices that don't support essid scanning yet? I'm currently having to use baselayout-1.10.4 (which was removed from portage ages ago) as my BCM4306 802.11b/g chip (used via ndiswrapper) doesn't support essid scanning. It should do. Basically if your card does not support scanning then you have a few choices 1) Hard code the ESSID - this only works when you only use one AP 2) Hard code a list of ESSID's - this works fine as long as you only use the AP's in the list. However, it's slow as it attempts to connect to each in the specified order. 3) Use the ESSID ANY - this forces the driver to associate with an AP that it chooses - you have no control over which one it selects. If not, pester me in IRC so I can fix it. -- Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:49 pm, Jonas Geiregat wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 26 May 2005 07:45 am, Jonas Geiregat wrote: I get a message * /sbin/rc cannot start until runlevel boot has completed this is an a ppc platform... search bugzilla, this has come up ... i think it's because of some init script you have in the boot runlevel when it should be in the default runlevel ... -mike I've searched bugzilla nothing found about this ... hail to bugzilla search harder :P if that fails, look at Bug 91534 if that fails, remove net.eth* from boot runlevel -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/ Since DHCP is assumed by default if there is no configuration, how does one disable DHCP easily *without* specifying an IP address? I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or nodetect are passed to the release media. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/ OK... nevermind... I just figured out that I need to: echo 'config_eth0=( null )' /etc/conf.d/net to disable DHCP. Uberlord: excellent docs... =] -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or nodetect are passed to the release media. speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt need to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code (lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to ... maybe we can do this in the ebuild ? -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 10:50 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 26 May 2005 10:04 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I'm asking because I will need to modify the livecd-tools scripts to take into account a way to disable DHCP when either nodhcp or nodetect are passed to the release media. speaking of livecd updates, someone pointed out on a bug that we shouldnt need to check CDBOOT anymore in the volume addon code (lvm/lvm2/evms/raid/etc) ... the livecd should set RC_VOLUME_ORDER to ... maybe we can do this in the ebuild ? What ebuild? baselayout? Where would the livecd set RC_VOLUME_ORDER? Why should it? Sorry if I'm not up on this stuff, but this is the first I've heard of any of this. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
Peter Cech [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Try to uncomment preup() function for /etc/conf.d/net. Link detection was not very reliable in my case, but it might be just because I'm using software suspend. That is working like a charm! It's booting now as fast as before. Thanks! Lars -- need Groupware == http://www.egroupware.org hosted eGroupWare == http://www.officespot.de eGroupWare Training == http://www.outdoor-training.de/egroupware Open Business Club == https://www.openbc.com/hp/Lars_Kneschke/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: | yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get | new baselayout stable asap', we're serious | | so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice any | regressions ? the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your | system comes up :) | | common gotchas: | - many config options have moved from /etc/rc.conf into /etc/conf.d/ files | - /etc/hostname and /etc/*domainname have been moved into /etc/conf.d/ files | - the net scripts have been completely rewritten thanks to UberLord ... old | config styles should work fine, but it's best if you update | your /etc/conf.d/net syntax ... just review /etc/conf.d/net.example or this | URL: http://dev.gentoo.org/~uberlord/net-book/ | | somethings to note ... | regressions with lvm/lvm2/evms will not be considered ... they have had all | their code forked into the respective packages and thus are no longer part of | baselayout ... bugs with those packages should be taken up with their | respective maintainers | -mike booted for me on ~x86 no raid/lvm/lvm2/evms to help you there hope this helps -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFClQ7TUpKYMelfdYERAk15AJ0fiaIuY8cGjezr0br0p3NRC6fAIgCghtBt 8nGxZXiQT1/nMrFq0uy/QRY= =eznV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers
Paul Varner wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice any regressions ? the 'best' tests are simply rebooting and seeing if your system comes up :) Works fine here on a fairly basic ~x86 desktop. Regards, Paul Hi, Using mostly stable system with some (baselayout incl.) testing packages. Migration went OK, except for a warning about missing /etc/init.d/serial. See commented entries for serial in my /etc/inittab file, will check. Otherwise it all works. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
