Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Doug Goldstein wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? Especially after a long time of kerberos not having a maintainer (thanks mueli for joining the Gentoo club and maintaining it now). Our current maintainer is working his butt off to get it up to speed but it's not there yet. I don't see what features or benefits it adds to the average user. If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. I've removed this USE flag from the desktop profile and created bug #245530 for handling evolution-data-server. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245530 -- Doug Goldstein
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. Agreed (independent of the current breakage). Marius
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). Sounds like a candidate for USE defaults, EAPI-1. Seems like a silly design choice to add it globally, IMHO.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Dawid Węgliński wrote: On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain. heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba doesn't have a kerberos USE flag. So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto?
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:41:26 Doug Goldstein wrote: Dawid Węgliński wrote: On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by default? AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag). So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there. samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain. heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba doesn't have a kerberos USE flag. So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto? I'd be +1 to drop kerberos useflag, and probably make use of eapi1 in nfs-utils and such, where kerberos would be more apropriate.
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
* Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ greets, mueli p.S.: thx for the suggestion cardoe! -- Michael Hammer|[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Graz, AT Gentoo Developer (Kerberos) | http://www.michael-hammer.at pgpw6S6QpvuEF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Michael Hammer wrote: * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. -Joe
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Michael Hammer wrote: * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. Regards, -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
Mart Raudsepp wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Michael Hammer wrote: * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an IUSE default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds. -- Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux DeveloperCatalyst/Genkernel + Release Engineering Lead
Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:22 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Mart Raudsepp wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Michael Hammer wrote: * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]: If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap. ++ I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely approve of nuking it. I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an IUSE default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds. From GNOME teams perspective I don't believe that is a good idea. Users wanting exchange support aren't hardly the majority of evolution users. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part