Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-11-04 Thread Doug Goldstein
Doug Goldstein wrote:
 Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
 default? Especially after a long time of kerberos not having a
 maintainer (thanks mueli for joining the Gentoo club and maintaining it
 now). Our current maintainer is working his butt off to get it up to
 speed but it's not there yet. I don't see what features or benefits it
 adds to the average user.

 If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.

   
I've removed this USE flag from the desktop profile and created bug
#245530 for handling evolution-data-server.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245530

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Doug Goldstein



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400
Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
 default?

AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).

 If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.

Agreed (independent of the current breakage).

Marius



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Doug Goldstein
Marius Mauch wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400
 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
 default?
 

 AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
 joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).
   
So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400
 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
 default?

 AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
 joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).

Sounds like a candidate for USE defaults, EAPI-1. Seems like a silly
design choice to add it globally, IMHO.



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Dawid Węgliński
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote:
 Marius Mauch wrote:
  On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400
 
  Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
  default?
 
  AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
  joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).

 So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.

samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain.



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Doug Goldstein
Dawid Węgliński wrote:
 On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote:
   
 Marius Mauch wrote:
 
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400

 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
 default?
 
 AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
 joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).
   
 So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.
 

 samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain.

   
heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba
doesn't have a kerberos USE flag.

So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto?



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Dawid Węgliński
On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:41:26 Doug Goldstein wrote:
 Dawid Węgliński wrote:
  On Friday 31 of October 2008 19:17:45 Doug Goldstein wrote:
  Marius Mauch wrote:
  On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:52:59 -0400
 
  Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone remind me again why we have the kerberos USE flag enabled by
  default?
 
  AFAIK it was added so that the default profile provides support for
  joining a Windows domain (same for the ldap flag).
 
  So let's use EAPI=1 in just the samba ebuild and do +kerberos in there.
 
  samba needs USE=ads ldap to join NT domain.

 heh. You beat me to the punch. I was just about to say that samba
 doesn't have a kerberos USE flag.

 So any objections to me nuking this USE flag pronto?

I'd be +1 to drop kerberos useflag, and probably make use of eapi1 in 
nfs-utils and such, where kerberos would be more apropriate.



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Hammer
* Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]:
 If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.

++

greets, mueli

p.S.: thx for the suggestion cardoe!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Joe Peterson
Michael Hammer wrote:
 * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]:
 If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.
 
 ++

I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely
approve of nuking it.

-Joe



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote:
 Michael Hammer wrote:
  * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]:
  If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.
  
  ++
 
 I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely
 approve of nuking it.

I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's.
They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires
evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos
They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get
things like GRP packages to work right.


Regards,
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Gentoo Developer
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Mart Raudsepp wrote:

On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote:

Michael Hammer wrote:

* Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]:

If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.

++

I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely
approve of nuking it.


I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's.
They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires
evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos
They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get
things like GRP packages to work right.


If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an IUSE 
default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds.


--
Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/
Gentoo Linux DeveloperCatalyst/Genkernel + Release Engineering Lead



Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:22 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Mart Raudsepp wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote:
  Michael Hammer wrote:
  * Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081031 15:53]:
  If no one opposes, I say we redact this USE flag asap.
  ++
  I was also wondering why kerberos was on by default - I definitely
  approve of nuking it.
  
  I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's.
  They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires
  evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos
  They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get
  things like GRP packages to work right.
 
 If that's the case, then I say whack it from global USE and change it to an 
 IUSE 
 default (or whatever is in vogue these days) for eds.

From GNOME teams perspective I don't believe that is a good idea. Users
wanting exchange support aren't hardly the majority of evolution users.

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Mart Raudsepp
Gentoo Developer
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio


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