Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] relying on vdb only

2008-02-12 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 12:58:51PM +0100, Selckin wrote:
> On Monday 11 February 2008 12:50:39 Brian Harring wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:48:01AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> 
> > > Well, the idea that devs will have to revbump packages just for RDEPEND
> > > version restrictions so that portage picks it freaks me :)
> >
> > Relying on the vdb is far saner then relying on the tree; so no, it's
> > not particularly dangerous, the inverse (relying on the tree to have
> > the same deps for vdb) is far worse imo.
> >
> > Solution to this is to reuse the existing update infrastructure, and
> > add a new command into it that resets the depends/rdepends- haven't
> > looked to see if older portage versions would behave well if they
> > encounter an unknown command in profiles/updates/* however.
>
> This should really be [possible|done] without introducing yet another ugly 
> and 
> very difficult to maintain update/* hack?

Err... hack?  Justify that statement please.

Few things you might as well address also-
1) update/* runs once per sync; alternatives (building a mapping, or 
forcing 2x metadata lookup via hitting up the tree for new metadata) 
can't really compete from a amoritized cost standpoint
2) it's simple to maintain; exact atom (rev included), metadata key, 
metadata value.  Can't realistically rewrite eapi-1 IUSE via it 
(default iuse can change the pkgs USE configuration), same for other 
build values (CHOST), but it's powerful, and simple.
3) basic infrastructure is already there, so why not reuse it?

~brian


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[gentoo-portage-dev] querying whether pkg is installed with version X or upwards ("atom" syntax)

2008-02-12 Thread Amit Dor-Shifer
emerge features syntax for installing a package according to certain
bounds. This is referred to in the manpage as "atom" specification.

I'm wondering whether equery has the same feature for querying. E.G: I'd
like to be able to ask:

equery l '>=app-misc/my-pkg-1.1'

I'd expect the listing to be empty when my-pkg is not installed, or is
installed by of version less than 1.1.

Thanks,

Amit
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