hat's being looked at as well, but that
doesn't change the fact that an improved default color.map, as here, is
useful too. =:^)
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agement may malfunction."
Omitting "that" after "It seems" to shorten further, the longer /proc
case would result in:
It seems /proc is not mounted. Process management may malfunction.
Nicely under the target 70 chars. =:^)
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ge easier for a quick lookup, and only tend
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binpkg-${PF} to emphasize the binpkg part and
group any emergency-installed packages together in an alphabetical
listing. But whichever's easiest for portage to work with, which
probably makes the -binpkg suffix version a better choice, requiring less
modification to existing code.
Is there any interest at all in binpkgs, perhaps when improved, from the
other PMs? Or are they effectively dead now or not interested in binpkgs
even if the format were to be improved, or simply too hard to work with?
Because "it'd be nice" (aka MAY level) to have this formally standardized
to PMS... if there's any interest from the other PMs.
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Zac Medico posted on Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:07:21 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 12/07/2017 12:37 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Zac Medico posted on Fri, 31 May 2013 22:49:02 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>>> On 05/31/2013 10:36 PM, Duncan wrote:
>>>> As in subjec
Zac Medico posted on Fri, 31 May 2013 22:49:02 -0700 as excerpted:
> On 05/31/2013 10:36 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> As in subject, is portage bin/usr-bin merge safe?
>>
>> It appears most of my clashing files are /usr/bin/* -> /bin/* symlinks.
>> (That's just bin, I'
being automatically written, allowing the user direct
control over what's actually written and how. =:^)
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, doing it manually means I remember the details I did /not/
put down much more readily, once prompted by the ones I did. Even if an
automated version could do it it'd need to write paragraphs in ordered to
allow me to make sense of it a year or whatever later, compared to my
single line wh
ld 9.0 in my konsole windows,
yields:
$ echo $COLUMNS x $LINES
179 x 78
And that's six of those on the 65" 4K, PLUS the full-screen 1080p youtube
or whatever window on the 48". =:^)
This is the first time I can honestly say I have enough screen space that
most of the time I'm not activ
means, confusing tho it may be, it /does/ result
in most people not needing to care, so in the end, even tho I agree it's
definitely more complex than I'd wish, I'll have to lean Zac's way on
this one.
Which effectively surprises even me. I started this post expecting I was
going to agree with
ation
features for a rather significant number of packages, and to be better
informed and active in terms of what specific packages I do have on the
system.)
I'll be looking forward to seeing this in a release. =:^)
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people who haven't, aren't as likely to blunder into it due to
the stereotypical "rm -rf .*" type advice.
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reasons...) after the option is no longer allowed (whether it directly
triggers an error or simply isn't processed at all, thus likely
triggering an indirect error due to incorrect parsing of other options
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the option somewhere in old code will still be
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they're moved to the appropriate sets file. If not, I simply delete the
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see usage notes) as well. (Meanwhile, I seriously can't picture /anyone/
using "propreantepenultimate" except as a joke!)
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Joakim Tjernlund posted on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 06:48:06 + as excerpted:
> On Thu, 2015-10-22 at 02:29 +0000, Duncan wrote:
>> Joakim Tjernlund posted on Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:08:02 + as
>> excerpted:
>>
>> > I need to more than one gentoo repo in my comp
ow needs a literal trailing
's' as well."
Again, thanks. Seeing similar trailing-s usage should be way less
confusing now. =:^)
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epos all any more, here, and
git of course has its git-ignore feature/files, which I use now. But I
used rsync's exclude as suggested above, for years. Worked fine. =:^)
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pdates. =:^)
(And now I understand the interaction between not running --deep,
and --oneshot, as well. =:^)
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package in an entirely separate repo does
make sense, altho some devs do apparently prefer to keep multiple
packages in the same repo (see udev with systemd, to mention one rather
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knew,
without @world pinning them in, portage's depgraph didn't include them
and that was that, --deep or not.
So the connection between --deep and --oneshot is new to me, and I'd love
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e date string thing worked it was only by accident, as it was
always exploiting a bug...)
But as a workaround, has anyone suggested the obvious... 2015.0922 ?
I find 2015.0922 visually easier to parse than 20150922, in any case, and
in fact routinely do break it down into four-digit substrings her
half way thru the story and
missed something critical, which has me wondering if I'm missing
something on the first one too, since it seemed so simple, thus the
remark above to that effect), but it's possible a dev will understand
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FWIW, agreed with the point. I don't do IRC so seeing the acks, etc, on-
list, would make it easier for me to follow too. =:^)
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Mike Frysinger posted on Tue, 02 Jun 2015 10:47:59 -0400 as excerpted:
On 12 Mar 2015 13:52, Duncan wrote:
Tho as proposed, that all-options section may /optionally/ be moved
into its own manpage, with an explicit note to that effect in the main
manpage.
i think splitting the content
Brian Dolbec posted on Fri, 03 Apr 2015 06:31:27 -0700 as excerpted:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:52:39 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Brian Dolbec posted on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:59:06 -0700 as excerpted:
enalyze is little known to users.
I'd never heard of enalyze before
there is verified there for a reason now, too.)
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embedded, which you didn't mention.)
But of course, gentoo/portage lets you do it your way too, as
demonstrated by the hacks you posted. =:^)
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Kent Fredric posted on Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:23:59 +1300 as excerpted:
On 12 March 2015 at 15:19, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Comments?
A less radical change would be some sort of tagging notation on each
feature to indicate their usage.
That way, it doesn't impede the current
Alexander Berntsen posted on Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:25:31 +0100 as excerpted:
On 12/03/15 03:19, Duncan wrote:
Comments?
Sure. Patches welcome.
LOL. I was expecting that[1]. =:^)
While I don't know the (presumably) roff markup I've seen in the manpage
patches, it'd definitely be useful
less since it'll avoid
the build-time writes to permanent storage) as doing the in-place build
directly. Plus, creating a tmpfs mount if necessary, and setting
PORTAGE_TMPDIR, is easy, and you'll dramatically speed-up normal builds
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they expose.
In theory, the actions category could be split up as well, perhaps simply
into common and other, but I'm less sure about this idea and consider it
less urgent in any case.
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, the manpage reads like it's rather outdated, having been only
barebones-updated for recent additions such that there's now missing and
outdated bits. Which I guess is exactly the case...
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Brian Dolbec posted on Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:11:56 -0800 as excerpted:
As recommended by Duncan on the gentoo-portage-dev list.
Clarify the all command.
Add OPTIONS to all commands, so a user can determine which modules
may run when the 'all' command is used.
Remove repetitive '(* command
Duncan posted on Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:40:35 + as excerpted:
Reading this gave me a distinct sense of deja vu reading this. ... =:^P
Crossed in the mail. Already corrected in the new series. =:^)
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always just worked. Now that it's
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the packages that reference it are known to
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an automated cleaner that can keep
just the last N package versions around while deleting the others, that
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(a hazard for those who have been
around long enough to have tools seriously evolve after the original
learning period), and hadn't thought at all about hardlinks (or btrfs
reflinks, since I'm using it for that partition). I expect I'll find
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unprivileged mode. If you do happen to use it, then
you will probably appreciate this patch.
I misinterpreted then, thinking unprivileged mode was simply running as a
normal user.
Thanks. (And good to see you back... with more help now. =:^)
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What about homepage? An index for it too?
(I found myself so frequently esearching for homepage that I hacked up a
script that greps package names and homepages from the esearch results.)
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Zac Medico posted on Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:05:35 -0700 as excerpted:
On 10/14/2014 02:53 AM, Duncan wrote:
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 14 Oct 2014 00:40:21 -0700 as excerpted:
I suggest that we add support for a
package description index file format.
What about homepage? An index
available.
Thank you! =:^)
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about that. If people think the confusion over
--autounmask changing meaning isn't as big a deal as saving those few
extra characters necessary for the longer -write variant, fine with me.
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the patch is or may be preliminary,
and they're not yet ready for integration-tree inclusion or final review,
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a sufficiently drastic change from current behavior that
I'd expect a good changelog entry mentioning it, and preferably a news
item, as it has the potential to screw up people's configs if they aren't
paying attention when the default changes.
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Alexander Berntsen posted on Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:03:36 +0100 as excerpted:
On 21/11/13 12:19, Duncan wrote:
I'm with zmedico in comment #11, and *STRONGLY* oppose this change as
you're proposing. Current autounmask is **NOT** useless.
How is it not? Consider comment 6[0] and 10[1].
I read
with the output, I can simply let it
go ahead.
[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481578#c10
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are a profile thing and I'm already running a heavily
modified profile, no @system for instance, I could probably simply modify
that... Actually, that's probably a better solution in any case, since
it's just undoing mainline settings the same way mainline does them in
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open
for over two months and is directly related to the make.conf move, so it's
a big one, simple fix proposed, but no actual fixes in-tree yet, plus
seeing all those others related to portage and gentoolkit, thus the
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embedded in my update script as well, to update its database, and have a
few front-ends for it (ehome being the most used), which return just the
specified data.
So switching to eix if esearch is treecleaned wouldn't be entirely
painless, but it shouldn't be overly painful, either.
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Zac Medico posted on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:36:28 -0800 as excerpted:
There's no replacement for it yet, so yes, for now that seems like the
best option if you need such fine-grained control.
Thanks. Done. =:^)
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Arthur D. posted on Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:30:16 +0300 as excerpted:
To Duncan:
FWIW, 12 days isn't so bad.
I didn't say 12 days is bad or something similar. I opened public bug
report after having no reply in 12 days. Did I something wrong?
I misunderstood you, then. It read to me as if you
of a
couple weeks or more. That's simply a fact of life one deals with.
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, who hopefully know to report its
use when it applies. If you check bugs I've filed, for instance, say for
parallel make aka MAKEOPTS, you'll note that I often mention that I
verified that MAKEOPTS=-j1 works by setting it in the appropriate env
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excerpted below, on Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:12:27 -0700:
Duncan wrote:
Does /etc/portage/env work for the python part of portage yet, or just
the ebuild.sh layer?
It only works for ebuild.sh since it's implemented via
$PORTDIR
if you want a second user opinion, or
just some peer help, before bothering a dev.
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Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org posted
4a22682a.1050...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May 2009
13:21:14 +0200:
Duncan wrote:
For leaf packages [-1] serves as a sort of test install.
Experimental installs and their deps typically sit in the
--depclean list for anything
, but
this would be less convenient than if portage shipped with the trialware
group functionality, no matter how it was implemented.
IOW, manual creation isn't as convenient as having it a normal part of
portage would be.
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can't imagine ever using
it or for that matter @installed in any form here as it just doesn't fit
my admin style (as should be self-evident from the above), but since
that's effectively what we're talking about...
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Pacho Ramos pa...@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es posted
1239914420.18698.0.ca...@localhost, excerpted below, on Thu, 16 Apr 2009
22:40:20 +0200:
Thanks, finally seems that, in my case, reiserfs with nolog,noatime
works really fast and with a smaller size (thanks to tail) :-D
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ask in the user list and forums and you'll surely get all sorts of info!
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of 5 complete, 1 runningLoad avg: 4.81, 3.95,
2.11*** %n in writable segment detected ***
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Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net posted pan.2009.03.14.16.53...@cox.net,
excerpted below, on Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:53:52 +:
What's the below %n in writable segment detected bit all about?
Here's some more strange output, from the last line above but here shown
as it was when portage finished
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René 'Necoro' Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:31:55 +0200:
Duncan schrieb:
Also, a little monitoring utility that could be run in another terminal
and just list and update all the currently merging packages, and any
that had failed
, but it's possible
I need to lower it. More experimentation is necessary! =8^)
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confused the first time at just one job an
install took a bit, as that's apparently not counted as running, so it
appeared nothing was going on for a bit. Maybe an installing count as
well would be useful... and prevent that confusion.
Thanks, guys. It's already fun playing with! =8^)
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Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:56:20 -0500:
Duncan wrote:
--jobs=10 --keep-going --load-average=15
For a dual-dual-core setup, a load average of 4.0 is fully loaded.
Anything higher than that and you're just causing jobs
in cooperation with the EAPI
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everywhere, so it's easily worth mentioning in the handbook as one of the
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followed on gentoo-dev.
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an old one, and as I
said, appears harmless other than the misleading display. Therefore,
better to let sleeping dogs sleep, for 2.1 anyway.
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. That's what I'm hoping, anyway.
Is that a true summation or does portage 2.1 now retain build-time eclasses
in the binpkg, rather than using those in the tree, when merging the
binpkg?
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the warning and not filing the bugs! =8^)
Or... is it still not yet a bug to file about? In that case, the brief
explanation would still be very much appreciated. =8^)
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not say if i have
emerged confcache and, if i have emerged it, which version it is. I think
this should also be listed in emerge --info.
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