Re: Re : Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Constraint-Based Dependency Solver for Portage: a prototype

2018-01-08 Thread Alexander Berntsen
On 08/01/18 03:06, Michael Lienhardt wrote:
> Many thanks for the advices. I started few discussions on the forum
> and will go to FOSDEM. I'll see where it will go.
Consider mentioning this in #gentoo-fosdem on irc.freenode.net, which is
where the Gentoo devs & users who are going to FOSDEM generally gather.
Maybe you can meet up with everyone. There's usually a few Gentoo
dinners (one actual "Gentoo dinner" that everyone sign sup to, and just
informal dinners throughout the weekend as well), and an OpenPGP
key-signing event, for instance.

Good luck, and enjoy FOSDEM.
-- 
Alexander
berna...@gentoo.org
https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander



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Re: Re : Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Constraint-Based Dependency Solver for Portage: a prototype

2018-01-07 Thread Michael Lienhardt

Dear Alexander,

Many thanks for the advices.
I started few discussions on the forum and will go to FOSDEM.
I'll see where it will go.

Best,
Michael

Il 16/12/2017 14:39, Alexander Berntsen ha scritto:

On 13/12/17 02:52, michael.lienha...@laposte.net wrote:

But maybe there are things we can do to help start a dialog, like:
  - reaching in other mailing lists

I don't think a post to gentoo-dev would be remiss in this case.


  - posting on a Gentoo forum

Always useful, I'm told, though I don't venture there. But that way
you're far more likely to engage *users*.


  - participating in a workshop/conference/other where we could directly meet 
and discuss with the community

FOSDEM and Linux Days are probably the best choices.


  - or simply starting an informal discussion by email where instead of having 
to look into the Github repository, you could directly ask me

If someone has the time, that'll probably naturally happen through the
MLs. Christmas time tends to be peak bikeshedding hours at Gentoo, so
maybe cross-post to -dev closer to the holidays?





Re : Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Constraint-Based Dependency Solver for Portage: a prototype

2017-12-12 Thread michael . lienhardt
Dear Alexander,

Many thanks for your reply and your encouragements.
The point that you raised is very interesting and was partially done in Debian 
(they defined a wrapper around apt-get instead of refactoring it): 
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man8/apt-cudf-get.8.html
Part of their work was formalized in coq and implemented in OCaml.
In our case, we don't have any mechanized formalization of our model (maybe in 
the future).

I too (and my colleagues) hope that someone on the team could have some time to 
look into our project.
But maybe there are things we can do to help start a dialog, like:
 - reaching in other mailing lists
 - posting on a Gentoo forum
 - participating in a workshop/conference/other where we could directly meet 
and discuss with the community
 - or simply starting an informal discussion by email where instead of having 
to look into the Github repository, you could directly ask me

Does anyone have suggestions on that topic?

Again, many thanks.
I really hope that with everyone's feedback, suggestions, and help, we could 
make something useful from this prototype.


Michael Lienhardt

PS: I forgot in my previous mail to talk about the other persons involved in 
this project:
 - Jacopo Mauro, Post-doc in UiO (Norway), developer of the solver backend
 - Simone Donetti, Engineer in Unito (Italy), he helped me perform some tests
 - Ferruccio Damiani (Unito), Einar Broch Johnsen and Ingrid Chieh Yu (UiO), 
our supervisors