[gentoo-portage-dev] Hello! portage UI

2006-03-13 Thread tvali
like tray-icon for autosync and notifications, also adding packages to world and removing, could be considered; code should be build in such way that is would be possible to add them later in different ways. -- tvali(e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED];icq: 317-492-912)Ühe eesti

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Hello! portage UI

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
: * Download gentoo source of Porthole * Change that source * Build my version of it in such way that my portage tree is OK after that Are --fetchonly and --usepkgonly somehow related to that? 2006/3/14, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2006-14-03 at 00:39 +0200, tvali wrote:For KDE there are 2 projects

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
2006/3/14, Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tvali wrote: * Add package to world checking all dependencies, but not emerging * Remove package from world without unmergingUhm, why would you want that? On my computer, building takes several hours on some packages. I have used it in such way

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
resources, i will press ctrl-c, use it, then start (continue) emerge --update. 2006/3/14, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/3/14, Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tvali wrote: * Add package to world checking all dependencies, but not emerging * Remove package from world without unmergingUhm, why would

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
package.2006/3/14, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did think about some priorities too, so that it could be perfect for me. It should be possible to add package with a priority. I will give you an use case and explanation how i would use portage. emerge --justadd kdebase-meta kicker --priority 10 emerge

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
some hacks in them -- i hope that noone complains about that; normalized structures are just dull and optimized only for dumb-user-human-readability, which is imho not the biggest virtue of software code. 2006/3/14, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another place, where it would be good, is that it could

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
want to see how *everything* relates: emerge --deep --emptytree --pretend --tree dcm On 3/14/06, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another place, where it would be good, is that it could interact well with GUI and it's Apply button. Another thing, what would be imho improved

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
it and use it. What is imho more important is how to make one usable interface, which would cover both fs and sql portage db's so that development didnt go into two products. -- tvali (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; icq: 317-492-912) Ühe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin tsitaati

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
2006/3/14, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tvali wrote: Ok, i send a lot of them, but hopefully they're interesting :) I would like to build sql table-structure after getting the information and send it into this list here so that you could hek out if it has something missing or poorly

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
2006/3/14, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2006-14-03 at 16:33 +0200, tvali wrote: If I recall, (there has been lots of discussion about converting portage to use databases, just check the mail archives and forum) portage already has sqlite support, but is not yet used. Sqlite is smaller

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
for that. 2006/3/14, Johannes Fahrenkrug [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tvali wrote: I will consider what you sayd about db app design. Anyway, i usually try to keep tables more dynamic and look at task at hand, trying to make tables specially for it. When i tested normalizing, i got about 60 tables where

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
and other such things as last thing. And i didnt want to make pauses between emerges, but had, because i wasnt always there, when one emerge was finished (as they took hours). -- tvali (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; icq: 317-492-912) Ühe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Hello! portage UI

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
assuming :) 2006/3/14, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/3/14, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian wrote: On Tue, 2006-14-03 at 13:14 +0200, tvali wrote: Ok, i was, yes, speaking about kde. I will check out this Porthole :) I was actually thinking more about c ++, but nothing against

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better

2006-03-14 Thread tvali
Ok, i think i have reasonable amount of information to start something now :) As a last question -- what i do after some additions to portage? Send it where? 2006/3/14, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/3/14, solar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 15:50 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: Heh

Re: sync suggestions [was Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better]

2006-03-15 Thread tvali
PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 03:50:18PM +0200, tvali wrote: Another question now is about sync. I did read somewhere, that this is not good user behavior to sync more than once per day. I understand that as if this is a huge download even if there is nothing changed. Isnt it nice

Re: esearch integration [was Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better]

2006-03-15 Thread tvali
Yes SQL tables are better for that as it's simpler to update them :) 2006/3/15, Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:33:06PM +0200, tvali wrote: I did think about it now and it seems to me that probably it would be much faster if esearch is not just another package

Re: portage from C (was Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Hello! portage UI)

2006-03-15 Thread tvali
i dont catch everything immedietly yet :) 2006/3/16, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So I was the last one :) My example is using python interpreter -- it's maybe simpler to use in many cases, but theoretically slower. It is, anyway, not so advanced to import portage, but you can add that line

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Manifest2 reloaded

2006-03-16 Thread tvali
)with is longer. This is why crack is bad, mm'kay. /me lights the pipe and goes back to his corner. Pardon, just did a quick test and screwed the results ;) ~harring -- tvali (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; icq: 317-492-912) Ühe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin

[gentoo-portage-dev] Portage sqlite support

2006-03-16 Thread tvali
Brian told that portage already has sqlite support. Where i can find it or how i can turn it on? Is there any bugs or other reasons to not use it? I would like to support it's code as this is nr. 1 priority for me right now :) -- tvali (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; icq: 317

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-16 Thread tvali
] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net -- tvali (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; icq: 317-492-912) I like net more than life, cause if i do something wrong, then people in net will tell me that i do, so that i can fix it -- people in life will tell others that i do. -- gentoo

[gentoo-portage-dev] Locales

2006-03-17 Thread tvali
to do so by hand :) [ there are some my, Tambet's, comments near that bug in topic ]-- tvali(e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED];icq: 317-492-912)I like net more than life, cause if i do something wrong, then people in net will tell me that i do, so that i can fix it -- people

[gentoo-portage-dev] Non-root installs

2006-03-19 Thread tvali
Many types of applications, like games, would be installed as normal user as well. Would it have any point to make portage user-installations into user space?-- tvali(e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED];icq: 317-492-912)I like net more than life, cause if i do something wrong

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: User created package lists

2006-03-21 Thread tvali
does right now with few logical commands. -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- tvali From a programmer's point of view, the user is a peripheral that types when you issue a read request. -P. Williams If you think your management doesn't know what it's doing or that your

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-22 Thread tvali
' from useflags: UseFlags = [] 2006/3/22, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/20/06, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/3/20, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I do think you're overcomplicating things where you shouldn't. Declaring stuff manually will always break

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-22 Thread tvali
be provided as well; interface is a simple atom with few params; just test.h could be provided, also: */ #ifdef portage-providers #provide header welcome.h #use header someheader.h #endif #endif #endif2006/3/22, tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was thinking about it, too, and found something i do like

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-22 Thread tvali
2006/3/22, Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are a few reasons why this won't work :-)First: What if I have assembler? python? perl?Your example is limited to the C preprocessor. Yes that i did tell there that it's limited to c already :) but bin dep, after all, is limited to lib dependencies

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-22 Thread tvali
As an addition to code deps discussion. I didnt understand exactly, why bin deps were supposed to be better than what we have now, as i am not yet exactly sure what we have :) Anyway, i see one basic plus of code deps. It's that you may have huge number of codelines, all containing #defines and

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-23 Thread tvali
Can someone tell me, which portage python commands should be used or which kind of file created, if i'm going to test this idea? -- in beginning, i would like to just add simple deps - are ebuilds the only place to change and is there any clear doc of them [as i wouldnt like to go through them all

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-23 Thread tvali
On 23/03/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tvali wrote: Can someone tell me, which portage python commands should be used or which kind of file created, if i'm going to test this idea? -- in beginning, i would like to just add simple deps - are ebuilds the only place to change

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-23 Thread tvali
>From Paul de Vrieze:The semantics that make up the relationships between useflags and the actual source as goes out of the preprocessor is very complicated. Probably theeasiest way to find it out is to try each permutation and somehow hook intogcc/g++ to get the result of that choice.And that's

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-23 Thread tvali
On 23/03/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly,chroot combined with lvm snapshots would be the easiest way.If you want to focus on binary packages, you might want to start with notdoing it automatically, but using some crude heuristics. You can make it configurable for when the

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-23 Thread tvali
On 23/03/06, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... this discussion is missing my initial point that is how toprovide binary dependency and avoid many crashes we have now withalmost no effort. Paul was not missing it ;) Part of his message was for me, part was for you. I have

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-24 Thread tvali
On 24/03/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, tvali wrote: BINSLOT is a new word for me. Ok BINSLOT is normally slot. However in some cases packages are in the same slot, but not binary compatible (like their libraries having a different SONAME e.g

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-24 Thread tvali
anything. ~harring -- tvali Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight. -Bill Gates For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -H L Mencken Theory is when you know something, but it doesn't work

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-24 Thread tvali
On 24/03/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 12:40, tvali wrote: Interface can be made somewhat automatically checkable. For example: void a(int); void b(int, int); void b(int, char); Is compatible with: void a(int); void b(int, int

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2008-11-23 Thread tvali
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2008-11-23 Thread tvali
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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2008-11-24 Thread tvali
portage tree is saved to understand if it's changed after last remount. 2008/11/24 tvali [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, mornings are smarter than evenings (it's Estonian saying) ...at night, I thought more about this filesystem thing and found that it simply answers all needs, actually. Now I did read some

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2008-11-24 Thread tvali
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