[gentoo-user] chronyd troubleshooting

2009-05-18 Thread Mick
A couple of days ago chronyd stopped functioning. This is all that the logs tell me but I don't know what I can do to fix it: = May 19 06:25:13 lappy chronyd[6756]: chronyd version 1.23 starting May 19 06:25:14 lappy chronyd[6756]: Se

Re: [gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question

2009-05-18 Thread Kevin Coetzee
Ric de France wrote: 2009/5/19 Kevin Coetzee mailto:kdcoet...@gmail.com>> Adam Carter wrote: The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of specifying a *negative* flag with a hyph

Re: [gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question

2009-05-18 Thread Ric de France
2009/5/19 Kevin Coetzee > Adam Carter wrote: > >> The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. >>> But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of >>> specifying a *negative* flag with a hyphen? Why not just >>> leave the flags you don't use out of the file entirely? >>

Re: [gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question

2009-05-18 Thread Kevin Coetzee
Adam Carter wrote: The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of specifying a *negative* flag with a hyphen? Why not just leave the flags you don't use out of the file entirely? Some flags are on by default, so this stops

RE: [gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question

2009-05-18 Thread Adam Carter
> The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. > But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of > specifying a *negative* flag with a hyphen? Why not just > leave the flags you don't use out of the file entirely? Some flags are on by default, so this stops their use.

[gentoo-user] nagging USE flag question

2009-05-18 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group, The time has come to edit make.conf on my new gentoo-netbook. But one thing has always bothered me: What's the point of specifying a *negative* flag with a hyphen? Why not just leave the flags you don't use out of the file entirely? In a related matter, is there a paludis equivalent

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote: > > If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric & questionable > > attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password. > > I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles. Huh? The package you are t

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread bn
Philip Webb ha scritto: > 090518 bn wrote: >> Philip Webb ha scritto: >>> With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you. >> whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out. >> If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu), >> I can edit it on Ub

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Genuine analysis of Gentoo machines admined by someone who knows how to do it > should that the machine can easily have only the features and software on it > that the admin say it should have. Like LDAP - not everyone needs it. On a > binary distro, if the maintainer su

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:59:14 William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:39:48PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote: > > > Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from > > > source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS s

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote: > > So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats > > down a binary distro. > > > Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary > > distro is "unfixable" just because I had

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Philip Webb
090518 bn wrote: > Philip Webb ha scritto: >> With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you. > whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out. > If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu), > I can edit it on Ubuntu just like on Gentoo. > I c

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote: > Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from > source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS settings in make.conf, you > can optimize the binaries you produce to take full advantage of your > processor, which you can't do

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 May 2009 18:42:54 bn wrote: > But anyway you have packages in Gentoo or in Ubuntu: in Gentoo you are > stuck with what whatever the packagers give you the same. You probably > have more versions available and some more flexibility, but that's it. > > So, I would really want to understa

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote: > So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats > down a binary distro. > > Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary > distro is "unfixable" j

[gentoo-user] Why still postgres 8.2?

2009-05-18 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi, yes I know I could use ~ in package.keywords. But is there a good reason why postgres is still @8.0 and not at least 8.2? Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread bn
Philip Webb ha scritto: > 090518 bn wrote: >> Philip Webb ha scritto: >>> Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ... >> Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu. >> I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop >> to *work*, and I cannot afford t

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Philip Webb
090518 bn wrote: > Philip Webb ha scritto: >> Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ... > Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu. > I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop > to *work*, and I cannot afford to be consistently bitten by suc

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread bn
Philip Webb ha scritto: > 090518 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: >>> The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get : >> I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :) >> I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Philip Webb
090518 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: >> The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get : > I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :) > I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a mixture > of SATA and PATA dis

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. > > Yes (red face). However, the crucial option here was ATA_SFF , > for which 'make oldconfig' gives : > > ATA SFF support (ATA_SFF) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ? > > This option

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-18 Thread Philip Webb
090517 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: >> 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help: >> it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily. > Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. Ye