Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-27 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Friday 26 November 2010, Dale wrote: I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. New build #1 with

[gentoo-user] Rosegarden constantly crashing...

2010-11-27 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am trying to use jack/qjackctrl with Zynaddsubfx and Rosegarden to play some midi stuff... It works...for a few seconds. Then Rosegarden dies. Jack list this: 09:36:36.740 Patchbay deactivated. 09:36:36.751 Statistics reset. 09:36:36.789 JACK is starting... 09:36:36.790 /usr/bin/jackd -R

Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Maciej Grela
2010/11/26 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? Presently my main Linux system is basically just a storage

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 27 November 2010, Matthew Marlowe wrote: Volker, Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current

Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Adam Carter
My immediate reaction was to consider the recent 200-line patch to kernel = superkernel thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/221770 As well as following Florian's instructions there (it helps a lot), you should run 2.6.36 as there have been improvements in the last few

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-27 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010, Matthew Marlowe wrote: Volker, Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. OK -- just to find out the truth I've

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:44:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: I never want to go back to those days either :-) Oh, I don't know. I wasn't bad at Astral assembler. Mind you, nostalgia isn't what it used to be. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mick
I haven't had much luck with the 2.6.35 version of kernels - they have cause panics on two different x86 boxen. Now that 2.6.35 has gone stable so I tried it again and I'm getting a kernel panic complaining about VFS unable to mount root fs: == VFS: Cannot open

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had much luck with the 2.6.35 version of kernels - they have cause panics on two different x86 boxen. Now that 2.6.35 has gone stable so I tried it again and I'm getting a kernel panic complaining about VFS

Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.11.2010 11:58, schrieb Adam Carter: My immediate reaction was to consider the recent 200-line patch to kernel = superkernel thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/221770 As well as following Florian's instructions there (it helps a lot), you should

[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/26/2010 05:57 PM, Stroller wrote: Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? [...] But I have also heard of `ionice` in the past:

[gentoo-user] dhcpcd-5.2.8 upgrade...

2010-11-27 Thread pk
Hi! I'm trying to upgrade dhcpcd to 5.2.8 (from 4.0.15). Currently it's not working so good... It compiles fine, gets a lease when rebooting... but ntp-client is not able to sync (to a remote ntp-server)... I'm also running a local maradns for dns-caching but no lookups are possible (with 5.2.8).

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-27 Thread Joseph
On 11/27/10 17:51, Adam Carter wrote: * package sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 NOT merged * * Detected file collision(s): * * /usr/bin/quickpkg Should I remove the quickpkg to install new portage or comment-out collision-protect in make.conf? I just ran the same update (and it reported

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:37:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I have also added source

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 November 2010 15:17:43 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had much luck with the 2.6.35 version of kernels - they have cause panics on two different x86 boxen. Now that 2.6.35 has gone stable so I tried it

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread sean
I thought Gentoo was supposed to be bleeding edge when it came to all things Linux. Why would something like E17, (or any package,) still need to be applied through an overlay after all this time instead of just being in portage? I thought building from scratch was to be the way to put a package

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 15:17:43 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had much luck with the 2.6.35 version of kernels - they have cause panics on two

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Hung Dang
On 11/27/10 09:56, Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:37:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I

[gentoo-user] wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida
Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue is here checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking for GL/glx.h... yes checking for GL/glu.h... yes checking for up-to-date OpenGL version...

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 November 2010 17:53:21 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 15:17:43 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had much luck with the

Re: [gentoo-user] wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Arttu V.
On 11/27/10, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue is here checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking for GL/glx.h... yes

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-2.6.35-r12 causes kernel panic

2010-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 17:53:21 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 15:17:43 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:59 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 November 2010 17:57:45 Hung Dang wrote: On 11/27/10 09:56, Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:37:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my

Re: [gentoo-user] wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 11/27/2010 01:43 PM, Arttu V. wrote: On 11/27/10, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue is here checking for GL/gl.h...

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:34 on Saturday 27 November 2010, sean did opine thusly: I thought Gentoo was supposed to be bleeding edge when it came to all things Linux. Why would something like E17, (or any package,) still need to be applied through an overlay after all this time

[gentoo-user] Re: wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread walt
On 11/27/2010 11:00 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue is here checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking for GL/glx.h... yes checking for

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:56 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:37:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am trying to get E17

Re: [gentoo-user] wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 11/27/2010 03:03 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 11/27/2010 01:43 PM, Arttu V. wrote: On 11/27/10, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:46 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Joseph did opine thusly: On 11/27/10 17:51, Adam Carter wrote: * package sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 NOT merged * * Detected file collision(s): * * /usr/bin/quickpkg Should I remove the quickpkg to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 11/27/2010 02:35 PM, walt wrote: On 11/27/2010 11:00 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue is here checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking

[gentoo-user] mkfs.ext4 -j /dev/sdb1

2010-11-27 Thread James
Hello, I just added a new drive to an existing system using an ext4 (journaled) file system. I was not sure about using the -j option so I did it anyway. Correct assumption? Irrelevant? no examples to ponder. comments or observations on the -j option with ext4? James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Stroller
On 27/11/2010, at 4:29pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... The way I solved the I/O problems is to use the sys-kernel/ck-sources kernel (2.6.36-r3). It shouldn't be necessary to use ionice and schedtool for most tasks, but I use it for portage with this in make.conf: PORTAGE_NICENESS=19

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-27 Thread Philip Webb
Just for info, on my 64-bit system I just updated Portage w/o any problem: root:525 etc equery belongs /usr/bin/quickpkg [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/quickpkg in *... ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 (/usr/bin/quickpkg - ../lib64/portage/bin/quickpkg) root:526 etc ls -l

Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread App Deb
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? Presently my main Linux system is

Re: [gentoo-user] mkfs.ext4 -j /dev/sdb1

2010-11-27 Thread Maciej Grela
2010/11/27 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Hello, I just added a new drive to an existing system using an ext4 (journaled) file system. I was not sure about using the -j option so I did it anyway. Correct assumption? Irrelevant?  no examples to ponder. comments or observations on the -j

[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/27/2010 11:34 PM, Stroller wrote: On 27/11/2010, at 4:29pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... The way I solved the I/O problems is to use the sys-kernel/ck-sources kernel (2.6.36-r3). It shouldn't be necessary to use ionice and schedtool for most tasks, but I use it for portage with this

Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? Presently my main Linux system is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Stroller
On 27/11/2010, at 10:22pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 11/27/2010 11:34 PM, Stroller wrote: On 27/11/2010, at 4:29pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ... The way I solved the I/O problems is to use the sys-kernel/ck-sources kernel (2.6.36-r3). It shouldn't be necessary to use ionice and schedtool

Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-27 Thread Joseph
On 11/27/10 21:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] I just ran the same update (and it reported it was going ahead with the update despite the collision). Looks like quickpkg is now in portage; # qfile /usr/bin/quickpkg sys-apps/portage (/usr/bin/quickpkg) I just --sync and it stopping at the

[gentoo-user] /proc/cpuinfo

2010-11-27 Thread James
Hello, Here's some thing that I'm at a loss to understand. cpu family : 15 model : 75 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat

[gentoo-user] Re: mkfs.ext4 -j /dev/sdb1

2010-11-27 Thread James
Maciej Grela maciej.grela at gmail.com writes: Irrelevant for running mkfs.ext4. The journal is always created in this case. This option has been used for mke2fs. I thought so, but googling nor man pages bear this out. So using the -j option did not effect anything, as the new disk is

Re: [gentoo-user] /proc/cpuinfo

2010-11-27 Thread Kristian Poul Herkild
lør, 27 11 2010 kl. 23:52 +, skrev James: Hello, Here's some thing that I'm at a loss to understand. cpu family : 15 model : 75 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 flags : fpu vme

[gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/28/2010 01:03 AM, Stroller wrote: On 27/11/2010, at 10:22pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: The ck patch set does not support group scheduling anyway; Now I'm a little more confused. Does `ionice` need the CFQ scheduler? Nope. I/O scheduling priorities are part of the I/O scheduler, not

Re: [gentoo-user] mkfs.ext4 -j /dev/sdb1

2010-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:07 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I just added a new drive to an existing system using an ext4 (journaled) file system. I was not sure about using the -j option so I did it anyway. Correct assumption? Irrelevant?  no examples to ponder. comments or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wine configure: error: No OpenGL library found on this system.

2010-11-27 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 11/27/2010 03:55 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 11/27/2010 02:35 PM, walt wrote: On 11/27/2010 11:00 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, I am trying to install wine on my system which I recently changed from no-multilib to multilib; so this may be causing this problem. The emerge issue

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-27 Thread App Deb
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 11/28/2010 01:03 AM, Stroller wrote: On 27/11/2010, at 10:22pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: The ck patch set does not support group scheduling anyway; Now I'm a little more confused. Does `ionice` need the CFQ

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-27 Thread Hung Dang
On 11/27/10 11:57, Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 17:57:45 Hung Dang wrote: On 11/27/10 09:56, Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 November 2010 07:37:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am